The ominous Trump-Russia link: What happens if Moscow really is meddling in the 2016 race?

[heresAthingdotcom]

Vice News’ Thomas Rid compiled all the publicly available evidence surrounding the hacking of the DNC, which was first reported last month. There’s a lot of technical jargon, but he writes that “the forensic evidence linking the DNC breach to known Russian operations is very strong,” while the evidence linking its dissemination to the Russians “is not as solid, yet a deception operation… is still highly likely.” The FBI is investigating the case, and as the Daily Beast reported Monday, the working theory is that the operation was intended to sway the presidential election in Donald Trump’s favor:

http://www.salon.com/2016/07/26/the_ominous_trump_russia_link_what_happens_if_moscow_really_is_meddling_in_the_2016_race/

[Bluzmann57]

1. Inform anyone involved that they are under arrest if they set foot in this country?

And overthrow trump if he wins.

[Cali_Democrat]

2. It interesting because Hillary is still favored to win the presidency by a wide margin

If Hillary becomes President, she certainly will not be cutting Putin/Russia any slack.

[Ghost Dog]

3. What happens? Expect to learn more than you ever wanted to know

about the dealings of the Clinton Foundation?

[Wellstone ruled]

4. So we want to creat a Trojon Horse?

Don't think that will ever happen. Clinton foundation appears to be on the up and up despite what the Rethugs and Cons tell people.

[Ghost Dog]

5. I'm suggesting there might be more like this in the offing:

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal

http://nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html

... As the Russians gradually assumed control of Uranium One in three separate transactions from 2009 to 2013, Canadian records show, a flow of cash made its way to the Clinton Foundation. Uranium One’s chairman used his family foundation to make four donations totaling $2.35 million. Those contributions were not publicly disclosed by the Clintons, despite an agreement Mrs. Clinton had struck with the Obama White House to publicly identify all donors. Other people with ties to the company made donations as well.

And shortly after the Russians announced their intention to acquire a majority stake in Uranium One, Mr. Clinton received $500,000 for a Moscow speech from a Russian investment bank with links to the Kremlin that was promoting Uranium One stock...

... The New York Times’s examination of the Uranium One deal is based on dozens of interviews, as well as a review of public records and securities filings in Canada, Russia and the United States. Some of the connections between Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation were unearthed by Peter Schweizer, a former fellow at the right-leaning Hoover Institution and author of the forthcoming book “Clinton Cash.” Mr. Schweizer provided a preview of material in the book to The Times, which scrutinized his information and built upon it with its own reporting.

Whether the donations played any role in the approval of the uranium deal is unknown. But the episode underscores the special ethical challenges presented by the Clinton Foundation, headed by a former president who relied heavily on foreign cash to accumulate $250 million in assets even as his wife helped steer American foreign policy as secretary of state, presiding over decisions with the potential to benefit the foundation’s donors...

It would be well to be prepared.

[geek tragedy]

6. your concern is duly noted nt

[Ghost Dog]

8. Thank you.

I am concerned that hurling accusations at Russia without solid evidence and apparently without much forethought is reckless.

[geek tragedy]

9. There's quite a bit of forensic and circumstantial evidence that it was the Russians.

No need to act as their defense counsel here, rest assured.

[Ghost Dog]

11. I've looked into it over the last two days.

The evidence is circumstantial, and could have been planted. Do you imagine the Trump campaign is not employing hackers of its own?

[geek tragedy]

12. planted by whom?

the evidence is a lot more solid than any other explanation.

The evidence all points in one direction.

[Ghost Dog]

14. By a hacker. n/t

[geek tragedy]

15. a hacker who can write in Russian? nt

[Wellstone ruled]

13. Noted

[auntpurl]

7. Really glad this story has gotten so much traction.

[Cosmocat]

10. It really hasn't

its sort of bouncing around a bit, but the convention and the circle jerk over disgruntled bernie delagates is the primary story.

It just is not gong to get any real air this week, and somehow has to stay alive to really get going.

If there was D who was this intertwinned with the Reds, and the Reds hacked the RNC, those assholes would not be just talking about military executions of democrats.

[randome]

16. It's like a toddler starting to walk but it's getting there.

What's Going on With Putin and Trump and Why It's a Big, Big Deal
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/what-this-is-really-about

The most minimal version of the story is actually a very, very big deal and in some ways the more high-octane and outlandish aspects of it are obscuring that. We know very, very little about Trump's finances. For most presidential candidates - the Clintons, Obamas, even the Bushes - it's important to see their tax returns. But there's not likely to be much of significance there. They either don't have much money or they've already been tightly scrutinized. Trump has a long list of bankruptcies, foreign business connections, huge debt loads. Seeing his tax returns is really essential. And yet we haven't seen them. And he's justified this on the basis of a preposterous claim that he can't because he's being audited - something that makes no sense at all. Even the fact that Trump owes a huge amount of money to DeutscheBank a foreign bank that has been under tight scrutiny recently from US regulators is a big deal. How would that possibly work if that scrutiny continues and the Presidential personally owes them hundreds of billions of dollars? But there's so much other craziness tied to Trump, no one has really even focused on it.

It doesn't have to be some wild, maximal version of Trump's relationship with Vladimir Putin to be a big, big deal - not just a big deal in the way we toss around the phrase in politics but a big deal in terms of our future, our safety, our children's safety.

[hr][font color="blue"][center]"The whole world is a circus if you know how to look at it."
Tony Randall, 7 Faces of Dr. Lao (1964)[/center][/font][hr]