Vermont Delegation to Ask For Nomination by Acclamation

[RandySF]

it just broke on MSNBC that a roll call will be held during which the Vermont delegation will ask for Hillary to be nominated by acclamation.

[democrattotheend]

1. Will Bernie do it himself?

I hate when they orchestrate these things and leak how it is going to go down beforehand. I would rather just see it play out and not feel so staged.

[RandySF]

2. No

[MADem]

8. It was always staged, even back in the old days.

It's just that people didn't tell.

Now we have a 24 hour news cycle. I suppose they could give us an analysis of Trump's "hair system"--that would probably take an hour or more to explain!

[Blue Idaho]

29. Slight correction...

This has always been staged AND people have always known about it.

For at least the last half century political conventions are essentially coronations of the nominee as the official candidate of the party. They are heavily stage managed and orchestrated as grand spectacle. It's usually the candidates home state that puts them over the top - but sometimes it's necessary that another state get that "honor."

[MADem]

39. Some people-not all people--have known; otherwise we'd not see any expressions of surprise. nt

[MADem]

3. If Bernie does the asking, he will have redeemed himself in the eyes of most if not all Democrats.

I hope he spent the morning pulling the credentials of the assholes making a spectacle of themselves.

[CBGLuthier]

9. "redeemed himself?" You Clinton fans just will never stop. The man is not in need of redemption.

[MADem]

13. He was slow to pivot. I'll bet he regrets that, too, after the "welcome" he got from his "fans"

yesterday afternoon, and the way he was IGNORED by some of his "supporters" last night after he specifically asked them to not protest/boo, etc. and they ignored him.




Personally signed -Bernie.

smh!

[LakeArenal]

38. I am with you...

Hillary supporters want Bernie supporters get over it.. The Hillary Block also needs to get over it. Bernie is with Clinton. Done.. Bernie has some rabid supporters. Off with their heads. I repeat... Bernie is with Clinton.. Move on.

[rateyes]

14. You really are not helping Hillary.

[MADem]

18. I'm simply talking about perception. The perception has been that he was slow to pivot.

I thought he gave a very good speech last night, and endured less booing than most of the speakers, predominantly black ones, too had to put up with as a consequence of his bone-headed "supporters" doing whatever the hell they felt like.

Perhaps you didn't SEE what he asked of his supporters, and they ignored? Read the text above--he asked them to NOT make a spectacle, but they did anyway.

Had he started preparing his team earlier for inevitable disappointment, rather than playing that "We're going to fight on the floor of the convention" stuff (and now, there will be a move to vote by acclaimation...? From VT?), that might have been avoided.

I will give him all credit for trying to fix the situation now, but I am of the opinion that he should have started sooner--like HRC did when she lost to Obama.

You are, of course, entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to mine, too--and I stated it.

I don't have all that much power on a little old discussion board of partisan Democrats, though, so I wouldn't, if I were you, worry too much about how much I help--or not.

[rateyes]

19. Bernie has no need of redemption.

[BobbyDrake]

21. That's one opinion.

And you're entitled to it, even if it's wrong.

[cannabis_flower]

28. There's only 3 groups that really get a say on Bernie's "redemption "

Hillary and her staff, Democratic Senators and the voters of Vermont. Are you one of those?

[MADem]

40. And everyone who voted for him, or chose to not vote for him, as a national candidate.

If he appears on my ballot, I am entitled to an opinion.

[cannabis_flower]

42. Opinions

are like assholes. We all have them and sometimes they stink.

Personally, I think yours stinks. And that's my opinion!

[MADem]

45. Righto, then....

I think I'll "go high" to quote Michelle.


Have a nice night.

[DanTex]

24. Some people think he does.

And if he wants to continue to have an effect on the direction of the Democratic party, I think it would be wise for him to make amends with people that he may have rubbed the wrong way.

The lingering feelings thing goes both ways.

[classykaren]

34. No he does not but they do. They need to apologize from the floor.

[lapucelle]

4. Classy, classy move.

Props to the people of Vermont and their very remarkable leadership.

[lady lib]

5. What is "nomination by acclamation?"

Thanks in advance.

[RandySF]

7. Basically a voice vote.

[MADem]

10. Stops the process of counting (we already know who has enough), and everyone says YAAAAAY!!!!

She has the votes, she's already won this thing. It's a way of putting the entire convention on the good foot.

[DemonGoddess]

6. K&R!

Wow!

[DCBob]

11. That would be a very nice gesture.

Thank you Vermont!

[auntpurl]

12. God, that would be great.

Let's see how this plays out.

[BooScout]

15. This is what they did in 2008...

Whatever gets Hillary nominated and the party unified is fine by me!

[NurseJackie]

16. That will be nice.

[LongtimeAZDem]

17. Wow; one of their members was one of the anti-Clinton delegates on MSNBC last night

They must be pretty embarrassed.

[BobbyDrake]

20. How far into the roll call does Vermont fall again? Is it alphabetical?

If Clinton has already had enough roll call votes to win, a nomination by acclamation towards the end doesn't make sense.

[RandySF]

22. The end

Everyone will get to cast their votes, then Vermont will ask for a voice vote.

[BobbyDrake]

23. A worthless gesture then. I thought as much.

What clearly matters most is the vanity is the roll call vote.

All this looks like is an attempt by Sanders to get his vote AND take credit for a voice vote, even when Clinton will be ahead by enough delegates to not need it.

[democrattotheend]

25. Does he need to change his tie color too?

No matter what he does, it's not enough for some of you. Unbelievable.

What this accomplishes is a display of unity after democracy has played out. Having been in Philly and talked to a lot of Bernie delegates, not having a full roll call will do Hillary no favors. People kept saying that the nomination and the vote hadn't happened yet. So let it happen and quit whining about it. You won. Get over it.

[LongtimeAZDem]

26. It's more likely a way of mitigating their embarrassment over one of their delegation

complaining to MSNBC last night.

And, ironically, her complaint is that Sanders spoke last.

[4lbs]

36. You could tell that young lady was new to all this.

Complaining that Bernie spoke last.

She didn't know that Bernie was given a prime speaking slot.

[BobbyDrake]

27. He could start by ceasing to make everything at our convention about him, maybe.

This constant need for attention of his has worn out its welcome.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

31. Let it go

There were plenty of moments in the 2008 Convention where if you grasped for straws, you could accuse Hillary of doing the same thing.

The convention is political theater. If you can't deal with that, don't watch because it will never change.

[emulatorloo]

35. No it is a great gesture for party unity.

Yes it is merely symbolic, but the symbolism is wonderful

[joshcryer]

43. Would've been more interesting if he released his delegates.

The result would have been similar.

[BobbyDrake]

44. She was already the nominee after South Dakota, that's what matters. nt

[democrattotheend]

46. Almost all of them would have voted for him anyway

But then some would say the vote wasn't legit because some of them sold out. He did it the right way.

[joshcryer]

48. I know.

[dsc]

32. they do normally vote at the end

but another state can pass to them at any point. I am guessing some way earlier state is going to be doing that.

[leftynyc]

37. If that's the case

I hope Alabama passes off to them.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

30. Whomever is close to putting her over will defer to Vermont

[MADem]

41. It was symbolic--and Bernie did make the move, which was a good thing. nt

[marble falls]

33. I was hoping that Bernie would do just that, but the Vermont delegation is just as good....

this will be a dirty fight and we need to get focused on the real issue: tRump.

[democrattotheend]

47. I had a feeling Bernie would do it himself

Otherwise, it didn't make any sense to have Vermont put her over the top, since she got no elected delegates there.