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DanTex

(20,709 posts)
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:38 PM Jul 2016

With all the hacking it seems Hillary's server was the most secure box on the planet.

DNC server: hacked.
State department servers: hacked multiple times.
Gmail, yahoo, etc.: tons of hacks of prominent people.
Corporate systems: lots of hacks.
Uber-secretive NSA: massive leak.
Secure diplomatic cables: leaked all over the place.

But for all the hand-wringing about her email server, it was never hacked.

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With all the hacking it seems Hillary's server was the most secure box on the planet. (Original Post) DanTex Jul 2016 OP
Irony: you're soaking in it. nt auntpurl Jul 2016 #1
Quite the understatment Sheepshank Jul 2016 #2
Why hasn't anyone tried to Hack the RNC? Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #3
Because they're working with the rnc? Just a little CT musing. n/t Cerridwen Jul 2016 #4
Logical answer. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #6
~A~ logical answer. Not necessarily ~the~ logical ~and~ factual answer. :) But, thanks. n/t Cerridwen Jul 2016 #7
It is conjecture, not fact. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #29
This ^^^ treestar Jul 2016 #14
Because the Russians like Paul Manafort? Hekate Jul 2016 #16
Why do you think they haven't? glennward Jul 2016 #24
It hasn't been made public, if it happened. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #30
Ha! n/t Orsino Jul 2016 #5
K&R n/t lillypaddle Jul 2016 #8
Don't forget the big hack of the Office of Personnel Management JaneQPublic Jul 2016 #9
Me neither. Friends who have worked for the LuckyLib Jul 2016 #11
We have no idea whether it was or wasn't hacked TrogL Jul 2016 #10
Correct. And the server's logs were deleted. KeepItReal Jul 2016 #13
Maybe, or possibly they are saving the best for last? hollowdweller Jul 2016 #12
Yep, it seems to be the only server left unhacked. Ilsa Jul 2016 #15
You are glad? I hope it lasts. NWCorona Jul 2016 #21
Me too. I hope the personal server issue goes away. Ilsa Jul 2016 #23
A Stand-Alone system is so insecure, all evidence of intrusion is easily masked. TheBlackAdder Jul 2016 #17
I wouldn't talk in absolutes NWCorona Jul 2016 #18
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #19
And of course the FBI servers were hacked by couple of teenagers. bornskeptic Jul 2016 #20
Hillary's server was most likely hacked. panader0 Jul 2016 #22
I never thought about that.. Peacetrain Jul 2016 #25
Glad Hillary finally got around to saying this in her 60 Minutes interview with Kaine. It was great! Native Jul 2016 #26
hackers wouldn't have hacked her server without telling us jtunes Jul 2016 #27
sometimes the best security is going unnoticed. unblock Jul 2016 #28

Hekate

(90,644 posts)
16. Because the Russians like Paul Manafort?
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jul 2016

Or maybe they have already hacked the RNC and are holding it all for blackmail the way J. Edgar Hoover used to.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
30. It hasn't been made public, if it happened.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:44 PM
Jul 2016

I just find it odd that someone would hack the DNC and ignore the RNC. Both would have donor lists and information that could be monetized.

It is curious to me why hackers would hit one and not the other.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
9. Don't forget the big hack of the Office of Personnel Management
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jul 2016

OPM stores personnel data of all federal civil service employees, as well as all the security clearance files of all cleared government and contract personnel -- well over 5 million people in total. Chinese hackers captured it all.

As one of the many folks who had a security file at OPM, I worry what the Chinese will do with our fingerprints and every fact about our lives, personal and professional, not to mention SSN.

And by the way, friends who used to work at the Pentagon say the Chinese are constantly snooping in the DOD, with mixed results.

See, that's why I can't get too exercised about Hillary's server. All they can do is suppose she probably got hacked, but at least it's not a sure thing like all these other hacks.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
11. Me neither. Friends who have worked for the
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 03:13 PM
Jul 2016

federal government tell me that the lack of tech sophistication in DC offices is a well known fact. (Case in point, the FAA, where even the air traffic control system is so antiquated as to be laughable.) there are folks who argue that HRC set up her own server precisely because of the ineptitude of State Department technology, and its vulnerability to hacking.

TrogL

(32,822 posts)
10. We have no idea whether it was or wasn't hacked
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jul 2016

One of the technical complaints about it was it lacked any sort of diagnostics to determine whether it was or wasn't hacked.

I'm going to see if I can find out exactly what sort of mail server it was.

In edit, looks like it was running Exchange. For two months it was directly connected to the Internet without ssl but back in the day I don't remember early Exchange supporting ssl.

KeepItReal

(7,769 posts)
13. Correct. And the server's logs were deleted.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 03:16 PM
Jul 2016

So the DOJ could not tell even if it had had an intrusion.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
23. Me too. I hope the personal server issue goes away.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 03:41 PM
Jul 2016

There is no indication that it was ever hacked.

TheBlackAdder

(28,183 posts)
17. A Stand-Alone system is so insecure, all evidence of intrusion is easily masked.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 03:25 PM
Jul 2016

.


Only inept newbies leave evidence, the rest don't.


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Response to DanTex (Original post)

bornskeptic

(1,330 posts)
20. And of course the FBI servers were hacked by couple of teenagers.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 03:30 PM
Jul 2016
http://www.batblue.com/teen-hackers-who-targeted-cia-breach-fbi-servers/

So does this mean Director Comey was grossly negligent or merely extremely careless for not making sure they were secure?

Peacetrain

(22,875 posts)
25. I never thought about that..
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:02 PM
Jul 2016

Maybe that is why the Russians and their minions in the right was so mad when they found out she had a private server.. that they did not get to hack

Native

(5,940 posts)
26. Glad Hillary finally got around to saying this in her 60 Minutes interview with Kaine. It was great!
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:05 PM
Jul 2016

unblock

(52,196 posts)
28. sometimes the best security is going unnoticed.
Tue Jul 26, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jul 2016

microsoft, e.g., has the resources to provide excellent security but they are a giant target so hackers keep trying and keep finding ways.

hackers aren't as interested in smaller servers. easier to hack, perhaps, but less payoff.


similarly, if you want to avoid having your car stolen, you can either pay through the nose for a high-end tracking security system or be like me and just content yourself to drive a 15 year old car that no one else would want anyway

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