Our first woman nominee Heckled...

[fun n serious]

and the most qualified person in history. There is an organized effort to heckler her.. People on twitter ( yes I know that is not very credible) are saying Nina Turner is organizing that effort. Will I be banned from DU if I say something bad about Nina?

[treestar]

1. If she is a Democrat, possibly

Constructive criticism? Like she is not accomplishing anything.

Critics of Bernie are not allowed either.

[Blue Idaho]

4. I was mistaken...

Nina may still be a member of the Democratic Party though she has vowed she will not vote for the democratic candidate HRC this fall. I think that puts her in Skinner's "assholes" column.

[GumboYaYa]

23. Bernie is not a Democrat and the Bernie or Bust folks are not supporting the Democratic nominee....

why are they above criticism? This is democraticunderground not independentunderground.

[emulatorloo]

28. Bernie is not Bernie or Bust, so please edit your title.

[GumboYaYa]

31. Is it not true that Bernie will not be a member of the Democratic Party when he returns to the

Senate? I don't think there is anything incorrect about my title. I like Bernie and don't intend to bash him, but technically he is not a Democrat.

[democrattotheend]

34. He intends to serve out his term as an independent because he was elected as an independent

He is not, contrary to some accounts here, "leaving the party" or walking out in a huff. If he were he would not have stuck around in Philly after his part in the convention was done.

[GumboYaYa]

41. He is not a Democrat....that is just a fact.

[DemonGoddess]

56. He plainly stated that he was elected

as an Indy and will finish this term as an indy. I don't have a problem with that.

[emulatorloo]

35. He's supporting HRC and has promised to do everthing he can to help her become President.

So I don't give a rats ass about his party affiliation.

Also please note explanation above, elected as independent serving out his term as an independent.

[GumboYaYa]

46. I do care about party affiliation....

this is democraticunderground not indpendentunderground and if Bernie does anything other than support Hillary 100%, I think we should be free to criticize him. His supporters who will not vote for the Democratic nominee deserve absolute derision and should have no protection around here. That is just my opinion and I have exactly zero control over the actual rules, so my opinion is worth exactly nothing.

[emulatorloo]

54. This site has never been exclusively for Democrats. It is for Dems and our allies who want to

help us elect Democrats.

In my case I am a Democrat and I supported Bernie in the primary. Like the MAJORITY of Sanders primary supporters (both independents, greens, etc) I am supporting HRC in the GE.

You are correct, people who advocate voting third party are not welcome here. They won't last long either as that's against the sites TOS.

But people who vote for Democrats and have the same goals that we have are our friends and allies no matter what their party affiliation is.

[GumboYaYa]

60. We agree

[emulatorloo]

61. ...

I thought we might!

[MyNameGoesHere]

64. As of this minute in time

He is a Independent senator from Vermont. He is no longer a primary candidate for the Democratic party. He is now subject to the same rules regarding supporting Democrats over independents as far as I am concerned. On DU I do not support independents, I plan on supporting any Democrat that opposes him if it happens. I do not read tea leaves and I have no reason to take him at his word about switching to the Democratic party for reelection.

[tonedevil]

68. Are you from Vermont? /nt

[emulatorloo]

70. if you want to criticize Bernie for endorsing HRC and working to elect her President, have at it

However I find it an very odd and very counterproductive thing to do.

IMHO you are clinging to the bitterness of the primary wars and not embracing the happy fact that they are over.

We are all HRC supporters now, and that includes Senator Bernie Sanders.

Really great thread from Skinner that I want to share with you if you haven't seen it before:

The primary-season framing of "Hillary Supporters" vs "Bernie Supporters" is a thing of the past
http://www.democraticunderground.com/12512303131

[treestar]

50. I know but my experience is you will get hides

for criticizing Bernie.

[redstatebluegirl]

62. Yep it I got my first a couple of days ago.

[Grey Lemercier]

2. Turner is fair game if she is a Jill Stein advocate

[still_one]

3. no, because Ms. Turner has made it very clear she will not support Hillary. Sorry Nina, this

Convention isn't about you.

On the other hand a lot more Bernie supporters are working within the process, and the party for progressive change, and according to the latest PEW survey, over 90% of Bernie supporters will be voting for Hillary

Sorry Nina, the train has left the station for change

[elleng]

5. 'Banned?' I don't know,

but do watch what you say, please, because Nina Turner has developed a well-deserved positive reputation and following, here and elsewhere.

[RonniePudding]

7. Lol

The blind leading the blind, apparently.

[elleng]

10. says someone who has been at DU since July 9, 2016.

WHO exactly is 'blind?' OH, I've got it, it's YOU!

[RonniePudding]

11. She's this convention's Zell Miller

A complete disgrace.

0.0

[SirBrockington]

18. +1

[Cooley Hurd]

20. Psyops are taking place and many are falling for it...

[elleng]

22. Looks like it, Coooley Hurd.

My last!

[Maru Kitteh]

45. Nice personal attack elleng. I've been here a while.

And Turner is making herself into a pouty-faced, irrelevant little nut job with her behavior.

If she's encouraging the disparagement of our nominee, that puts her in the corner of Trump - she will be the blind, leading the stupid.

[DemonGoddess]

57. ^^^This!!!

[fun n serious]

12. She is making people have yucky feelings about Bernie's

movement. In my opinion she is hurting Bernie and Hillary.

[RonniePudding]

15. No doubt about it

Fascinating to watch some here defend her so vigorously.

[sunnystarr]

58. Nina is hurting everyone!!!

I was one of her biggest fans. Now she's one of my biggest disappointments. A vote for the Green Jill is a vote for Trump and Nina knows it and she knows her leadership will influence others to do the same. She's dead to me. She should be thrown out of the convention!

[Kathy M]

67. Agree ......

Wanted to add they are being Very disrespectful not only to Hillary ..... to everyone .

[LostinRed]

24. I think that well deserved reputation is gone

I'm sorry but if you can't support the nominee you don't deserve to speak at her convention. She can speak at Jill Steins in August and at Trump's swearing in in January. Since a vote for Jill stein is a vote for Trump.

[Metric System]

63. Nina Turner appeals to Bernie or Busters and that's it, like over at JPR. You familiar with it?

[Koinos]

65. She has also earned an equally well-deserved negative reputation.

In my opinion, she is not helping the progressive movement at this time. There is an effective way and an ineffective way to achieve one's political principles.

Everyone gets carried away by emotion from time to time, but emotion without foresight and reason isn't going to move the progressive ball forward.

[Satch59]

6. That will be awful...

Wonder if security has any control? Doubt Bernie would?

[Chasstev365]

8. I have no problem with them being escorted out of the arena

It's one thing to protest something wrong; it's quite another to just be disruptive, attention seeking dicks!

[apcalc]

44. Me either....escort their little asses outta there!

[Me.]

9. She Is Apparently Supporting

Jill Stein now

[fun n serious]

17. Weird since Jill Steins platform is horrible

I guess it was never about progressive issues.

[SirBrockington]

27. if so itd be 100% personal

possibly ending up getting 5% of what she claims to want to see enacted, as opposed to 90%, screwing the rest of the left, out of personal animosity and spite.

[geek tragedy]

13. Turner is still saying she's a Democrat, so I'm guessing she's not behind this.

More likely it's the unchaperoned children adopting her as their Joan of Arc.

[Maru Kitteh]

47. She can say whatever she wants, her actions indicate otherwise. nt

[MoonRiver]

14. You won't get banned, but your post might be hidden.

It all depends on the "jury."

[Cooley Hurd]

16. Sarah Silverman's twitter acct was hacked...

Are you sure the same thing isn't happening to Nina? I think this is a psyops thing happening...

[fun n serious]

19. Nope.

It's not on Nina's twitter. It's others talking about a loud walk out during Hillary's speech...

[Cooley Hurd]

21. I'll believe it when I see it...

[Maru Kitteh]

25. If Nina Turner engages in activities against the nominee and party - FUCK HER.

Her actions will make her an opponent and she will deserve richly any and all berating she gets here.

[Mass]

26. One person on twitter? or were there more?

Because I am getting really tired to see everybody get all worked up on some vague tweet or some idiots on TV.

Could we focus on what matters? Getting Trump beaten and getting a STRONG PROGRESSIVE majority in the Senate elected?

[fun n serious]

30. It a few..

Search her name on twitter and see

[Mass]

38. I did. It is quite minor and most likely will not happen.

Let's be clear. It should not happen. This is stupid and counterproductive, as well as insulting.

But I do not see any evidence it will happen or that Nina Turner is involved.

[emulatorloo]

29. Don't trash Nina based on the twits on Twitter.

I doubt they know what they are talking about.

[fun n serious]

32. My opinion of Nina is not from a few tweets

It's about the whole past year.

[SirBrockington]

33. Her presentation is always so hostile

and divisive anytime I've seen her on interviews. The reporters have never asked
her a follow up question as she appears about to explode. One follow up question
and I can only imagine the fireworks itd produce. The interviews have always
been softball friendly cautious chatty sessions.

[fun n serious]

37. I agree.

I have always felt she was on the verge of getting violent. It may have been my perception.

[Blue Idaho]

36. "With friends like these..."

"Who needs enemies?"

I wonder if Sen. Sanders feels like he is watching his "movement" dissolve before his very eyes? There he is sitting in the cat bird seat at the convention center watching the disrupters draw shame on themselves and publicly drag his movement through the mud.

Before you jump in to chastise me - I know full well these are not typical Bernie supporters and I agree with that - but you know what? The M$M is referring to them all as "Sanders Supporters" and the media is not being kind to them in their reporting. It may not be fair but it's really putting one hell of a hit on his ambitions for a post election movement.

[Thinkingabout]

39. It decreases the ability to keep the movement from being accepted by others.

Not the way to get their agenda accomplished.

[fun n serious]

42. Very true.

[apcalc]

40. For what purpose would anyone heckle HRC ? At this point? For what?

Grrrrr

To elect Trump?

Grrrrr

Will be tempted to drive down to the Wells Fargo Center....! ( I won't..but will be yuuuuuugely pissed!)

[grossproffit]

43. I got a time out for a Jill Stein comment that I made a while back.

[fun n serious]

48. Good to know. Thank you ...

[DemonGoddess]

59. You shouldn't have

she's Green. Anything here supporting anyone NOT a Democrat, such as a Green candidate, is actually a direct ToS violation.

[grossproffit]

49. How many times was Obama heckled? Would someone be so kind as to refresh my memory.

[geek tragedy]

51. AFAIK, no male nominee has been heckled.

The saboteurs who smuggled themselves in by pretending to be Democrats would be trailblazers in a way.

[procon]

66. Was he heckled by fellow Democrats when he gave his nominating speech? nt

[liberal N proud]

52. Nina Turner is proving not to be a Democrat

[Hekate]

53. Can Hillary's supporters be allowed ONE FREAKING NIGHT to enjoy this?

Way to make friends and influence people, disruptors.

[fun n serious]

55. That is what I say.

When can we stop acknowledging Nina's pain?

[alcibiades_mystery]

71. We must help them through the "grieving process"

Can you imagine?

[procon]

69. Tonight is an historic event.

The photos, the audio recordings, the videos of tonight's proceeding with be proudly added to our nation's treasured historical documents, enshrined in museums, added to libraries, and included in textbooks to remind future Americans of the struggles women made on the road to equalty.

And the taunts, heckling, jeers and screams of these pissant protesters who want to shout down Democrats, will become a permanent reminder that the struggle still continues.