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pampango

(24,692 posts)
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 01:45 PM Jul 2016

"... ‘facts don’t work’ … You have got to connect with people emotionally. It’s the Trump success.”

Few Americans have heard of Arron Banks, a backer of the right-wing United Kingdom Independence party (Ukip) and a founder of the leave.eu campaign. Here he is, talking to the Guardian about consultants’ advice to hone the message of the Brexit campaign: “It was taking an American-style media approach … What they said early on was ‘facts don’t work’ … You have got to connect with people emotionally. It’s the Trump success.”

It made no sense for the UK to leave the EU, just as it makes no sense for anyone to vote for Donald Trump: he won’t make life better, or safer, or more profitable or moral or peaceful, for anyone but himself and a few cronies.

But to choose his name on a ballot as a protest vote? As a way to say, “This system, as it stands, doesn’t work for me?” As a way to say, “This system stinks, so let me show you that I fervently believe that, even if it’s not in my so-called self-interest, because the status quo is surely not in my self-interest, and maybe some change is better than none?”

As a way to say, “I feel like I’m in shackles, and maybe this man is the way out? Because that woman definitely is not?” That’s the thinking that brought us Brexit. And that scares the bejesus out of me.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/28/hillary-clinton-status-quo-candidate-donald-trump

The danger of right wing populism and the demagogues who coopt it, is that it takes a justifiable anti-elite attitude and morphs it into an anti-empiricism attitude in which 'facts do not matter' - only anger and emotion matters. Few people really think that Trump really has any answers or policies solutions but how many people will vote for him simply "as a protest vote? As a way to say, “This system, as it stands, doesn’t work for me? ... This system stinks, so let me show you that I fervently believe that, even if it’s not in my so-called self-interest, because the status quo is surely not in my self-interest, and maybe some change is better than none."

I hope not too many but that is probably what liberals in the UK thought before the Brexit vote.

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"... ‘facts don’t work’ … You have got to connect with people emotionally. It’s the Trump success.” (Original Post) pampango Jul 2016 OP
The missing qualifier whatthehey Jul 2016 #1
Everyone relies on emotion and storytelling. AngryAmish Jul 2016 #2
Not to drive decisions to the exclusion of objective analysis whatthehey Jul 2016 #3
Hillary is aware of this. Hence, the Kahn parents. General Allen and the drumming intro pnwmom Jul 2016 #4
He is absolutely right... Seahawks Jul 2016 #5
This was a very good post. Sorry to see it sunk in the Recs. (n/t) thesquanderer Jul 2016 #6

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
3. Not to drive decisions to the exclusion of objective analysis
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 02:16 PM
Jul 2016

I'm fine with emotions and storytelling to entertain and edify. But they have never and will never determine major purchases, investments, and certainly not voting. I'm not quite arrogant enough to think I'm the only rational decision maker either.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
4. Hillary is aware of this. Hence, the Kahn parents. General Allen and the drumming intro
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 02:18 PM
Jul 2016

to the dozens of other military veterans. The young woman with the disability. The 11 year old girl with immigrant parents.

All of these people supporting Hillary with their stories -- and plenty of emotion.

Seahawks

(11 posts)
5. He is absolutely right...
Fri Jul 29, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jul 2016

...People vote on emotions in the booth.

Look at Justin Trudeau's Liberal campaign ads from Canada.



No facts. But gets the emotions going.
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