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Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:55 AM

 

To me, if Stein and Johnson really care about this country they will throw their support to HRC,

This is dangerous times and too important to chance a Trump Presidency. No matter what Hillary has done with e-mails or talking to Wall Street it pales in the face of what a Trump Presidency will mean to this country.

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Reply To me, if Stein and Johnson really care about this country they will throw their support to HRC, (Original post)
glennward Jul 2016 OP
MineralMan Jul 2016 #1
LisaL Jul 2016 #2
rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #3
DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #4
BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #11
TonyPDX Jul 2016 #5
still_one Jul 2016 #6
bigwillq Jul 2016 #7
MohRokTah Jul 2016 #8
workinclasszero Jul 2016 #9
BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #10
bluedigger Jul 2016 #12
RonniePudding Jul 2016 #13
sufrommich Jul 2016 #14
Adrahil Jul 2016 #15

Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:57 AM

1. Neither will do that. Their egos won't let them.

We're going to have to win by beating Donald Trump. The Libertarian Party will steal Republican votes from him, and Jill Stein's voters won't matter enough to bother with attacking her.

A positive GOTV campaign for Hillary is the answer.

GOTV for Hillary and Kaine!

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:59 AM

2. Of course neither will do that.

Remember Nader?

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:59 AM

3. Lol

 

Stein is a crazy person, a conspiracy theorist. She's a lost cause and won't end up breaking 1% as usual. Listen to her for ten minutes. She's a lunatic.

Johnson and Weld are serious, smart, civil people. I disagree with most of their plans but support some of them. I would completely trust them with the nuclear codes. They could get 9 or 10% of voters who would otherwise go for Trump and who won't vote for Hillary.

I seriously doubt the small faction of holdout busters would go libertarian but even if they do it pales in comparison with disaffected republican white men, who love that privatization line of bull.

That's millions of people. It virtually guarantees Hillary a win if they can break into 7-10% territory. We ought to support Johnson being in debates and on polling choices and treat him with respect.

Hell if Johnson gets a tailwind we could win friggin Utah. Most places the diehard busters would go for Johnson (because of legal weed primarily) are states HRC wins anyway.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:02 AM

4. Johnson and Weld would do so well before Stein though neither will.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:09 AM

5. That would be actually getting involved.

They don't do that.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:19 AM

6. I have a really great deal for swamp land in Arizonia. Any takers?

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:25 AM

7. They don't need to do that, and shouldn't.

 

I respect their right to run. The more voices, the better, imo.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:26 AM

8. Neither Gary Johnson (L-Wingnut) nor Jill Stein (G-Moron) give a single shit for their country.

 

They are both glory seeking assholes.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:47 AM

9. They don't care. They are purists

 

Smug in their superiority.

Just like the liberal democrats and communists were in Germany before Hitler and the nazis seized total control.

They could have banded together and stopped him but they all were too pure to do that.




They were hoping Hitler would bring the "revolution" like Sarandon. He brought it alright. It didn't work out the way they thought it would...

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 11:58 AM

10. Why don't we quit talking about them

altogether?

This is DU and neither is a Dem or a Dem supporter. Johnson is a Libertarian and, as such, will likely get more votes than Stein and those will mostly be to Trump's deficit. Stein loves it when we mention her at all. She has zero credibility among the overwhelming majority of voters everywhere and even less exposure. So let's quit giving her any more. Please.

The Real Enemy is Trump. Period.



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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:09 PM

12. I don't know that it would make much difference at this point.

A small percentage would be swayed, perhaps, but most of their supporters are third party ideologues committed to voting for their party, regardless.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:11 PM

13. They don't, and they won't

 

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:15 PM

14. By October they'll be old news and irrelevant. nt

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Sat Jul 30, 2016, 01:26 PM

15. Stein is a full-fledged nut.

 

She is incapable of recognizing strategic action for the greater good.

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