2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSeriously, Donald Trump is mentally unstable. Like, there is a name and..
a medication for what is wrong with him, I feel sure.
Shouldn't there be some way to disqualify him for running for office based on the fact that he is batshit insane? And if there isn't, there needs to be.
RKP5637
(67,088 posts)issues. We have no idea WTF is with this guy, other than he acts deranged. For all we know, he could have a developing brain tumor making him act so bizarre.
Doodley
(9,048 posts)Behavioral: social isolation, disorganized behavior, aggression, agitation, compulsive behavior, excitability, hostility, repetitive movements, self-harm, or lack of restraint
Cognitive: thought disorder, delusion, amnesia, belief that an ordinary event has special and personal meaning, belief that thoughts aren't one's own, disorientation, memory loss, mental confusion, slowness in activity, or false belief of superiority
Mood: anger, anxiety, apathy, feeling detached from self, general discontent, inability to feel pleasure, elevated mood, or inappropriate emotional response
Psychological: hallucination, paranoia, hearing voices, depression, fear, persecutory delusion, or religious delusion
Speech: circumstantial speech, incoherent speech, rapid and frenzied speaking, or speech disorder
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/schizophrenia/basics/symptoms/con-20021077
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]There is nothing you can't do if you put your mind to it.
Nothing.[/center][/font][hr]
KewlKat
(5,624 posts)Major Human Flaw: Some people refer to themselves in the third person.
Response No. 1, by Elsa Ronningstam, associate clinical professor of psychology at Harvard Medical School and author of Identifying and Understanding the Narcissistic Personality:
Referring to yourself in the third person creates distance between "I" and "he." So if you have an exaggerated view of how great you are, you could be using this distance to make yourself even bigger. Or, if you've achieved major success suddenly, using the third person could be a way to adjust to the bigger role that's been assigned to you. It's a way to enlarge yourself to fit that role.
randome
(34,845 posts)[hr][font color="blue"][center]I'm always right. When I'm wrong I admit it.
So then I'm right about being wrong.[/center][/font][hr]
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,961 posts)jberryhill
(62,444 posts)There is no question he's a nut.
So, who would you like to put in charge of this "Office of Deciding Who Can Run?"
A democracy leaves these kinds of decisions to the voters.
To be president, one must be:
At least 35,
Born a citizen, and
A US resident for the last 14 years.
That's it. That's all. You can be crazy as a shithouse rat, a convicted felon, whatever. An edge case would be whether the person is mentally competent to take an oath, but I doubt someone in, say, a persistent vegetative state would win an election - although after W I'm iffy on that one.
The notion of putting some person or group of people "in charge of who can run" is a dangerous one that should be rejected in a democracy.
renie408
(9,854 posts)GeorgeGist
(25,311 posts)God or some people?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)...who left it entirely open to revision.
Who should decide who can run for office? An appointed godlike entity, or the people?
renie408
(9,854 posts)But I get your point and was not seriously implying that we should have Presidential candidates examined by a panel of mental health experts.
I mean, who would the Republicans find to nominate?
But thinking about it...wouldn't that save us all a lot of chaos?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)So we have the Commissioner of Crazy Candidates, appointed by whom?
Licensed psychologists can and will do anything for money, ethics be damned. The esteemed guardians of our mental health were all too happy to become torture advisors to the W administration.
So who makes this decision?
The provisions by which a crazy president can be removed by the Cabinet are interesting, since the president still gets to say "I'm not crazy."
So how about we have Congress appoint the Commissioner. You want Paul Ryan appointing the person who decides whether Hillary is allowed to run?
renie408
(9,854 posts)Option A: You admit to extremely poor reading comprehension skills.
Option B: You admit that you didn't really read what I wrote.
WAIT!!
There is an....
Option C: You admit you just like to rant.
I am cool with whatever you want to go with!!
stopbush
(24,392 posts)to deny an elected candidate the presidency.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)writes3000
(4,734 posts)He's disgusting.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)Ilsa
(61,690 posts)This is the time to stress the candidates and do our due diligence on them.
treestar
(82,383 posts)in spite of the M$M
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Sometimes he's manic. Sometimes he's depressive.
elias7
(3,991 posts)Being familiar with a lot of psych people, I would disagree that he exhibits any signs of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)He's practically a textbook case of both disorders.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)Bill USA
(6,436 posts)briefing. EVERY member of DU should be signing this --- if you care about national security!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2311162
backscatter712
(26,355 posts)If you look that disorder up in the DSM, you'd find Donald Trump's picture in there.
Unfortunately for the rest of us, there's no effective treatment.
yardwork
(61,539 posts)Years of intensive psychotherapy would help him, but he would have to admit that he has a problem first, and the symptoms of his mental illness make that unlikely.
He is unlikely to ever change.
renie408
(9,854 posts)He is really crazy. Not sort of crazy. I mean, really REALLY crazy.
yardwork
(61,539 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I think many people going around talking about mental health issues are very uneducated as to the topic. Even this op has conflated, or at a minimum simplified the unsimplifyable, to a point there is no basis in the argument they present.
MichiganVote
(21,086 posts)KewlKat
(5,624 posts)- A narcissistic sociopath is someone with a combination of narcissistic personality disorder and definitive behavioral signs of sociopathy.
- People with narcissism are characterized by their excessive and persistent need for others admiration and positive reinforcement. They generally have grandiose opinions of themselves and believe they are superior to other people. Narcissists are also frequently convinced that they are above the normal responsibilities and obligations of everyday life, so they usually have significant difficulties maintaining employment or relationships as a result.
- The narcissistic sociopath has this type of personality along with a noticeable lack of regard for the rights of others and a tendency to regularly violate those rights.
- The narcissist with the sociopathy reacts strongly and sometimes even violently to negative feedback. True sociopaths generally do not respond to criticism or care what others may think of them.
- A narcissistic sociopath is unable to tolerate criticism and needs constant praise, as well as deference from other people. Many with this condition present themselves in the best light possible and are able to easily charm others to gain their trust.
renie408
(9,854 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And I believe you are equating mental health issues with instability in the way you have worded this. Those with mental health issues have every right to run in an unfettered manner and its up to us to decide who gets our vote.
renie408
(9,854 posts)for being light hearted about a serious subject.
I should never joke about anything here. I keep forgetting that part of the liberal code is taking everything literally and always being completely PC. You have to forgive me. I am a Southern liberal. I am sure I am not doing it right.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I will say I don't find this to be a lighthearted issue and we have Frist's around every corner.
He's bat shit crazy. That's good enough. Your lightheartedness sweeps up many of us on this board.
renie408
(9,854 posts)I thought I was getting a wrist slap.
I oftentimes feel like I don't fit in great here and I let that color my reading. I apologize!
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)KewlKat
(5,624 posts)(1) They are habitual liars. They seem incapable of either knowing or telling the truth about anything.
(2) They are egotistical to the point of narcissism. They really believe they are set apart from the rest of humanity by some special grace.
(3) They scapegoat; they are incapable of either having the insight or willingness to accept responsibility for anything they do. Whatever the problem, it is always someone elses fault.
(4) They are remorselessly vindictive when thwarted or exposed.
(5) Genuine religious, moral, or other values play no part in their lives. They have no empathy for others and are capable of violence. Under older psychological terminology, they fall into the category of psychopath or sociopath, but unlike the typical psychopath, their behavior is masked by a superficial social facade.
He displays all of these tendancies as well!!!
Avalux
(35,015 posts)BainsBane
(53,015 posts)But no medication can help.
duncang
(1,907 posts)Donald J. Trump
pnwmom
(108,955 posts)He is so completely self-absorbed that other people aren't real to him -- they are just reflections in the mirror.