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jimlup

(7,968 posts)
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 03:57 PM Jul 2016

Talk me down

Where is our convention bounce? Is it still too early to be reflected in the polling averages? Or is it something else that isn't reflected in this averaging?

I'm getting alarmed. If we are not 5 points up by August 6th we are in trouble.... Please tell me I'm wrong and have just not seen the trends yet.

http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

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Talk me down (Original Post) jimlup Jul 2016 OP
Trump Reeling As Clinton Gets 10 Point Democratic Convention Bounce And 15 Point Lead question everything Jul 2016 #1
It's been two days since the convention. athena Jul 2016 #2
No kidding. This OP is ridiculous... AgadorSparticus Jul 2016 #7
It is not jimlup Jul 2016 #9
OK. Please just try not to worry. athena Jul 2016 #13
Exactly rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #27
6 up MFM008 Jul 2016 #3
The only polls conducted AFTER the Convention show her up FIVE and FIFTEEN. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #4
KHAN!!!!! lapfog_1 Jul 2016 #6
Ok stay calm just walk away from the ledge everything will be alright awake Jul 2016 #5
I am a regular contributor to the DNC jimlup Jul 2016 #10
Just trying to talk you off the ledge awake Jul 2016 #14
Via bullhorn: This is detective Robertson of the DUPD statistics division. Let's say you and I tandem5 Jul 2016 #8
Not sure what you are trying to say to me jimlup Jul 2016 #11
Okay if you want the serious answer... tandem5 Jul 2016 #17
Now that you've explained it, athena Jul 2016 #19
hey thanks! tandem5 Jul 2016 #25
Look for Monday 9am EST CNN/ORC POLL BlueStateLib Jul 2016 #12
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #15
Not to worry. woolldog Jul 2016 #16
Not trying to be an ass. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #18
Polls didn't reflect Trump's puny bounce until Wednesday. NT Ilsa Jul 2016 #20
Your concern is duly noted. nt Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #21
Relax. Hillary Clinton has got this. Get to your local party and start The Second Stone Jul 2016 #22
The 538 nowcast switched back to Hillary today Godhumor Jul 2016 #23
Read recent threads before posting. MineralMan Jul 2016 #24
There have been *TWO* polls since the convention, and *BOTH* show a huge bounce for Hillary scheming daemons Jul 2016 #26
Clinton Opens Up Wide Lead Over Trump Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #28
Go with Sam Wong instead. He's much better. Drunken Irishman Jul 2016 #29
My republican neighbor is voting for Hillary Equinox Moon Jul 2016 #30

athena

(4,187 posts)
2. It's been two days since the convention.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 04:00 PM
Jul 2016

Two days. One business day.

Instead of asking us to convince you that there is nothing to worry about, please convince us that this OP is not concern-trolling.

jimlup

(7,968 posts)
9. It is not
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:22 PM
Jul 2016

I'm honestly concerned. Maybe I'm guilty of watching the polls too closely but I'm certainly not trolling.

athena

(4,187 posts)
13. OK. Please just try not to worry.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:37 PM
Jul 2016

I worry, too, sometimes. The fact that Trump is polling at over 5% greatly disturbs me. The fact that he was polling better than Hillary just before the DNC was very upsetting. But worrying doesn't help. We had an amazing convention, and we have a great candidate. We need to just do all we can (i.e., donate and volunteer) to make sure she wins this.

awake

(3,226 posts)
5. Ok stay calm just walk away from the ledge everything will be alright
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 04:11 PM
Jul 2016

Just remember Trump really does not want the Job he just likes the spotlight. Maybe if you did a bit of work therapy like say helping with Hillary's campaign or raising funds $27 at a time that might help.

tandem5

(2,072 posts)
8. Via bullhorn: This is detective Robertson of the DUPD statistics division. Let's say you and I
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 04:32 PM
Jul 2016

make sense of these cross tabs together. Down here. On the ground. Whatayousay buddy?


Look I get it. You don't want to talk. I've got two reluctant respondents at home in the 18-25 myself. We all have troubles, you know? My 40-49 post graduate wife and I have gone through rough patches, but our love and love of life has always been outside the margin of error!


jimlup

(7,968 posts)
11. Not sure what you are trying to say to me
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jul 2016

but I'm definitely not in the 18 - 25 age category.

Maybe I'm just nervous. And because of the internet 24 hour cycle I may be following to closely. ... but the Donald is too much of a risk for me to be comfortable. The earliest election that I remember was Johnson/Goldwater so I've seen my share.

tandem5

(2,072 posts)
17. Okay if you want the serious answer...
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:53 PM
Jul 2016

If you are alarmed then you don't need to be talked down as your feet our firmly planted on the ground. If you want momentary catharsis from a positive poll then I can relate to that, but don't let that turn into complacency. I wouldn't care if she were polling 20 points ahead in every state. Trump should not have gotten this far and that fact should keep us eternally sober.

Response to jimlup (Original post)

 

woolldog

(8,791 posts)
16. Not to worry.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 05:56 PM
Jul 2016

This should be the bottom. We're about a week past the RNC. Poll averages, which are lagging indicators, are fully factoring in Trump's bounce, but not Clinton's DNC bounce. Clinton's DNC bounce should more than make up the difference. Only a couple of post DNC polls have come out. Not enough to move the poll averages much, but they show that Clinton should get a good bounce in the polls that will be coming out over the next week or so. Hold on for about 4-5 days. After two weeks or so both conventions should be fully factored in.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
18. Not trying to be an ass.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 06:56 PM
Jul 2016

But there is no way to talk this type of political observer down.

"If we are not 5 points up by August 6th we are in trouble"

Even if there was a chance, we might learn Clinton stubbed her toe on the eighth and we will be right back in the same position.

 

The Second Stone

(2,900 posts)
22. Relax. Hillary Clinton has got this. Get to your local party and start
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:15 PM
Jul 2016

registering likely Democrats and get them out to vote in November. Opportunity of a lifetime. Us individually fretting doesn't get anyone to the polls. Asking people to go to the polls does work. I've seen it. It's the only thing that works that we can do besides donating money.

MineralMan

(146,284 posts)
24. Read recent threads before posting.
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 07:53 PM
Jul 2016

Had you done so, you would know about the bounce already. We don't need more panicky gloom and doom postings. Inform yourself, please.

 

scheming daemons

(25,487 posts)
26. There have been *TWO* polls since the convention, and *BOTH* show a huge bounce for Hillary
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 09:49 PM
Jul 2016

This is a troll thread.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
30. My republican neighbor is voting for Hillary
Sat Jul 30, 2016, 10:38 PM
Jul 2016

She decided to after hearing O's speech. Previously, she said tRump had her vote.

She also will be putting a Hillary sign in her yard! It is complete turnaround, because of O's speech.

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