Advice needed, please!

[PasadenaTrudy]

Just saw tweets from people I'm "friends" with on social media. One says she's voting for Bugs Bunny, one says she's not voting for either Trump or Clinton because they are both liars. What, if anything, can I say to try to get them on our side? They are AA and don't feel that either candidate represents them. Or, do I just respect their choices and zip it?

[MFM008]

1. I wouldn't try

My sister is the same.
It's futile in most cases.

[PasadenaTrudy]

2. Sigh...

It's so frustrating, isn't it?

[treestar]

3. Post that article

without comment, that rated the "lies" of several people including Trump and Clinton, Obama, etc. It had bar graphs I think.

Trumpeter just lied twice in one day, about the NFL and about not knowing Putin. And something else just today that escapes me at the moment.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

4. Here's what my wife and I are doing...

Download both the Republican and Democratic platforms. They are both online in PDF form.
Let those people read or at least become a little familiar with the platforms.
Then let them vote on the platform. They don't have to vote for the person just the ideals of the party.

[PasadenaTrudy]

6. I'll see if

I can. Sometimes it's tricky posting things on Twitter for some reason. Thanks!

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

8. I don't know about Twitter...

They are about sixty pages long. But the link should work

[TheBlackAdder]

5. Ignore them, they are looking for attention or trying to provoke a response. Just stay true to self.

[Hapstinna]

7. Family ties

I have immediate family members who think Trump is the greatest. All they keep saying is that Hillary is a liar and a crook and they will not vote for her. There is nothing I can say to change their minds and believe me we have had some heated discussions. I think Trump is right about one thing. He could shoot somebody in the middle of 5th Avenue and he would not lose voters. I truly do not understand the mentality of some of his supporters.

[MoonRiver]

9. I just ignore people who say things like that.

Their minds are made up, so why waste energy? Also, I don't think there are very many of them.

[NCTraveler]

10. Question?

Do they consider themselves to be conservatives?

[PasadenaTrudy]

12. They are registered

as Independent.

[NCTraveler]

13. As am I.

Guessing you aren't sure.

[DemonGoddess]

11. My sister is voting Green

my son, who was all in for Bernie for months, thinks she has lost her mind.

She's been Green since Nader, so she has this thing in her head that Democrats are bad people, and almost as bad as Republicans

There's no reaching her, unfortunately. She didn't vote for Obama either.

[PatSeg]

14. Some of them may change their minds later

But unless they ask you questions, it probably won't help to offer information they don't want to hear. People like to believe that they have made their own choices. In that respect, sometimes asking them questions could open them up to new points of view.

On the bright side, if they aren't voting for Trump that is a partial win.

[PasadenaTrudy]

15. Very true! nt

[Onlooker]

16. Maybe this

I'd rather a liar who panders than who takes away our rights.

[DLCWIdem]

17. maybe you should share that video from Jimmy Kimmel

Where he interviewed people were lying about what she lied about. It makes many uncomfortable when they recognize themselves as a little ignorant and may encourage them to learn something.

[athena]

18. If you ever volunteer for the Hillary campaign,

you will be told to waste no time on people who support the opposition. You will be told not to argue. At some point, you will be told to ignore even undecideds and focus completely on people who are leaning toward Hillary or strongly supporting Hillary. Because so few people vote in this country, elections in this country are won not by changing people's minds but by getting your candidate's supporters out to actually vote on election day.

So, instead of arguing with these idiots, your time would be much better spent volunteering for the Hillary campaign. You could register voters, make phone calls, and/or go door to door. You could easily make up for the votes of these two people. In fact, three hours of canvassing would probably make it more likely that ten or fifteen strong supporters will actually vote on election day.

[PasadenaTrudy]

20. Good advice, thank you nt

[cutroot]

19. They have been slowly programmed with lies and innuendo for a long time.

It is very similar to a religious cult. Any deviation from their thought process instantly triggers a negative reaction. In their fear/ paranoia/ hate culture, you are perceived as dangerous simply because you do not respond properly to the dog-whistle words.
I have tried to sit down in front of the computer with several of my republican friends to work out any of their misunderstandings. It is important that you do not attempt to blame them for it. They have been conditioned to respond to any attacks with aloof indifference. Most will immediately shut down or even begin to attack you.
Several long term friendships have been truncated. In the long run it is for the best. They revealed their true character and it wasn't pretty. I do not shun them but I discovered that I no longer seek out their company.
This is much more difficult with family members, but at least you know what topics to avoid with them.

[IVoteDFL]

21. I have quite a few people I'm closely associated with in real life and social media making similar c

I have found the best course of action is to ignore them. Then again I live in a solid blue state so I'm less worried about my third party friends then I otherwise would be. MN will never go to Trump so I don't waste my time with them.

[PasadenaTrudy]

22. I'm in CA

they are in NM, two blue states, luckily!