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MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 01:08 PM Jul 2016

US Veterans Group Slams Donald Trump’s “Sacrifice” Comments

Paul Rieckoff, the founder of the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America, ripped Donald Trump’s comments that he has sacrificed for his country just as fallen soldier Humayun Khan and his family by employing thousands as “insulting.”

Rieckoff told ABC News: “For anyone to compare their ‘sacrifice’ to a Gold Star family member is insulting, foolish and ignorant. Especially someone who has never served himself and has no children serving,” Rieckoff said. “Our county has been at war for a decade and a half and the truth is most Americans have sacrificed nothing. Most of them are smart and grounded enough to admit it.”




Read more: http://hinterlandgazette.com/2016/07/us-veterans-group-slams-donald-trump-sacrifice-comments-humayun-khan.html#ixzz4G0V4QOSi

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US Veterans Group Slams Donald Trump’s “Sacrifice” Comments (Original Post) MineralMan Jul 2016 OP
I don't see how any Vet could support Trumpelthinskin... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #1
I don't see how, either. MineralMan Jul 2016 #2
Good. I hope they continue to speak out on his atrocious comments. anamandujano Jul 2016 #3
I hope most are as offended as they should be. Hortensis Jul 2016 #4
There will be more such incidents. MineralMan Jul 2016 #5
So true! But phenom isn't him, it's that Trump has supporters. Hortensis Aug 2016 #6
They live in an alternate world oberliner Aug 2016 #8
Yes. Was just reading "Danger! Empathy and Psychopathy Hortensis Aug 2016 #9
Yes, they are going after Khan oberliner Aug 2016 #10
They should be sticking together and sticking up for their Cha Aug 2016 #7

Wounded Bear

(58,618 posts)
1. I don't see how any Vet could support Trumpelthinskin...
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 01:11 PM
Jul 2016

He sucks at the whole 'caring' thing. Hillary, with Bernie and Liz in the Senate, will take care of us.

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
2. I don't see how, either.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 01:15 PM
Jul 2016

I'm a Vietnam era USAF vet. I didn't serve in Vietnam, but knew many who did. For Trump to insult the parents of someone who died in action is simply so far beyond the pale that I can't imagine now how any veteran or family of a veteran could possibly support him or even vote for him.

Trump has displayed his complete lack of concern for our military personnel and their families. He has nothing but contempt for them. Nothing he says can fix his stupid mention of his own "sacrifices." He has made none. He has lost nothing. He is a coward and a fool.

He is a disgusting excuse for a human being.

He cannot become our President. We cannot allow that to happen.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
3. Good. I hope they continue to speak out on his atrocious comments.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 03:23 PM
Jul 2016

I was very dismayed when Hillary mentioned that although Obama put more homeless vets into homes that there are still about 50% homeless.

I trust she will fix this. What could be a more worthwhile goal.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
4. I hope most are as offended as they should be.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 04:18 PM
Jul 2016

I also hope this additional straw breaks the camel's back of yet more who didn't believe Trump was mentally disordered.

Straw piled on straw piled on straw...

MineralMan

(146,281 posts)
5. There will be more such incidents.
Sun Jul 31, 2016, 07:38 PM
Jul 2016

Trump cannot help himself and doesn't even recognize when he is doing it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. So true! But phenom isn't him, it's that Trump has supporters.
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 09:05 AM
Aug 2016

Absolutely amazing. Right now, reportedly 61% of Republicans think it was appropriate for Trump to invite the Kremlin to hack his opponent's emails. What is wrong with these people!?!

Good news is, only 30% of Americans do. Bad news: That 61% of a minority fraction has outsize influence because it wags the other party in our two-party system. America NEEDS the Republican Party to be destroyed and reborn.



Been reading more about this. Reportedly, 4-5% of Americans are born without the capacity for empathy, which is one of the huge lacks dragging Trump into so much trouble. Also, his conscience is probably only partly developed -- enough for him to worry about getting himself in trouble, but not enough to care about what he does to others.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
8. They live in an alternate world
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:24 AM
Aug 2016

They get their information from different sources, and believe the others to be lying.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Yes. Was just reading "Danger! Empathy and Psychopathy
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:56 AM
Aug 2016

as Competing Value Systems in Politics and Economics." It seems very likely the destruction of much previous capacity for empathy, with resultant brain remodeling, has occurred to many on the right. Not all, of course, but as the GOP has moved to the far right a number of its leaders probably have had at least psychopathic traits.

Btw, one of Trump's advisers is now saying Mr. Khan is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood. Many millions will seize on that "explanation" of how undeserving he is and how right Trump is with relief, of course.

Four to five percent of the population is born without a capacity for empathy. It is a neurological lack. A psychopath may be a genius and become a multimillionaire, but he will never be able to understand empathetic values. In fact, because of the grandiosity of these personalities and consequent intense denial they have toward their shortcomings, they are arguably less capable of understanding empathy than a congenitally deaf person is of understanding music. Their minds are closed.

Psychopaths treat the empathetic majority as the defective ones and seek relentlessly to remake the world in their own image, to proselytize their viewpoint and values and to “teach” their “defective” empathetic fellows to think like them.

Unfortunately, they can. A psychopath can never learn to think like an empathetic person. The functioning brain tissue is just not there. But people with a normal capacity for empathy can turn off that capacity and think like psychopaths.

To a certain extent, the empathetic do this as a matter of evolution. As studies of war, racism and genocide indicate, humans draw what Martha Stout called circles of empathy. They behave empathetically toward those in the circle and psychopathically toward those outside the circle. However, we are not hardwired for xenophobic violence like chimps. For us it is a function of learning and culture.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/marcella-mroczkowski/danger-empathy-and-psycho_b_667637.html
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. Yes, they are going after Khan
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 11:00 AM
Aug 2016

Here's the various approaches:

1. He is a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

2. He attacked Trump for no reason.

3. Hillary is to blame for his son's death.

4. No one cared when Hillary disrespected the Benghazi mom

5. Radical Islamic terrorism is the real issue here

Cha

(297,028 posts)
7. They should be sticking together and sticking up for their
Mon Aug 1, 2016, 10:19 AM
Aug 2016

fellow soldiers.

That's trump in a nutshell.. "insulting, foolish and ignorant." with stupid thrown in.

And, the m$m better stop trying to normalize his ridiculous ass.

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