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RandySF

(58,655 posts)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:16 PM Aug 2016

Trump: 'I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier

Without setting foot on a battlefield, Donald Trump said he received a Purple Heart medal on Tuesday at his rally in Ashburn, Virginia, from a retired lieutenant colonel and supporter.

“I said to him, 'Is that like the real one, or is that a copy?” the Republican nominee said moments after taking the stage at a local high school.

Trump recounted the exchange, remarking that the man, who he identified as retired Lt. Col. Louis Dorfman said, "That's my real Purple Heart. I have such confidence in you."

"And I said, 'Man, that’s like big stuff. I always wanted to get the Purple Heart," Trump said. "This was much easier.”


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-purple-heart-226565#ixzz4GBz32uoU

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Trump: 'I always wanted to get the Purple Heart. This was much easier (Original Post) RandySF Aug 2016 OP
What the...? LakeVermilion Aug 2016 #1
What the ... ? Jopin Klobe Aug 2016 #45
Amusing in a sad way, but shocking that the selection process Hortensis Aug 2016 #2
That isn't the issue here Cosmocat Aug 2016 #21
Oh, Trump's incapable of understanding such things. Hortensis Aug 2016 #37
Oh Donald anoNY42 Aug 2016 #3
What a slap in the face to our honored recipients of the Purple Heart Ms.Lib Aug 2016 #4
What a disgrace - that demnishes the spirit of that award liberal N proud Aug 2016 #5
Does trump know how one gets a Purple Heart? onecaliberal Aug 2016 #6
Sure he watched the MASH episode whistler162 Aug 2016 #10
Maybe he thinks he deserves one. After all, he is responsible for the Vietnam War Memorial politicaljunkie41910 Aug 2016 #19
I think Purple Heart recipients - asiliveandbreathe Aug 2016 #7
Sacred for some, but not republicans. tavernier Aug 2016 #16
That was revolting. deurbano Aug 2016 #29
No sane person takes another person's Purple Heart Cosmocat Aug 2016 #18
And that is the rest of the story..thank you! asiliveandbreathe Aug 2016 #22
Trump didn't take it seriously. (Sorry, your phrasing was such a good straight line.) tblue37 Aug 2016 #41
They do. Stonepounder Aug 2016 #47
Benedict Donald... Hekate Aug 2016 #8
I thought this must be from The Onion... KittyWampus Aug 2016 #28
I swear I thought it was a joke when this first popped up on Twitter Quiet_Dem_Mom Aug 2016 #9
Disgraceful DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #11
Gotta be the least deserving Purple Heart in history True Dough Aug 2016 #12
Trumps response indicates it is all about him. Wonder if has ANY idea of what riversedge Aug 2016 #13
God. This man is SO hateful. nt auntpurl Aug 2016 #14
It's a copy (see end of the story) tavernier Aug 2016 #15
If this is for real - you NEVER, NEVER take that ... Cosmocat Aug 2016 #17
Here, let him have one of these. . . DinahMoeHum Aug 2016 #20
What a low-life jackass. femmocrat Aug 2016 #23
Well said! unitedwethrive Aug 2016 #50
Trump accepting a purple heart is offensive Gothmog Aug 2016 #24
First Gold Star Mothers and now Purple Heart recipients. nolabear Aug 2016 #25
I really don't think anyone have it to him. I think he bought it so he could say onecaliberal Aug 2016 #26
It happened at a rally, in front of a bunch of people. nt tblue37 Aug 2016 #42
He wanted a purple one, but the only one he's earned is black jberryhill Aug 2016 #27
boom TeamPooka Aug 2016 #35
This mythology Aug 2016 #51
A normal American exboyfil Aug 2016 #30
Indeed so Duckhunter935 Aug 2016 #36
I think the operative word in your post is WinstonSmith4740 Aug 2016 #44
Wow! How stupid is that? stopbush Aug 2016 #31
Trump says not a word about the sacrifice of the veteran who offered it to him... cynatnite Aug 2016 #32
OY mindfulNJ Aug 2016 #33
A Purple Heart for the "bone spurs" that got him his Vietnam deferments. nt TeamPooka Aug 2016 #34
... napkinz Aug 2016 #38
I'd like to think that my volunteering for the draft spared someone else pinboy3niner Aug 2016 #40
That is so sad. I cannot even begin to imagine it. - nt KingCharlemagne Aug 2016 #49
geez heaven05 Aug 2016 #39
Odd. It's like a veteran spitting on himself. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2016 #43
Yeah, it was much easier for the donor to get shot TexasBushwhacker Aug 2016 #46
Is this any more insulting than the Purple Heart band aids they wore at the 2004 RNC Feeling the Bern Aug 2016 #48

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Amusing in a sad way, but shocking that the selection process
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:21 PM
Aug 2016

for high rank would allow a man capable of such poor judgement to become a Lt. Colonel. He should have been weeded out at far lower level. What harm might he have done over the years?

It's also just plain sad that he would give such a meaningful honor to a man to whom it means literally nothing beyond a polish to his vanity.

Cosmocat

(14,560 posts)
21. That isn't the issue here
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:46 PM
Aug 2016

people are people, and with age in particular you just can't account for someone doing what the person who gave it did ...

The issue here is, if this is for real, that Trump took it.

NO ONE takes someone's Purple Heart, that just is not right.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
37. Oh, Trump's incapable of understanding such things.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 02:23 PM
Aug 2016

That's a given, but I do see why that shocks people. With the lowest expectations for him, it's just that the colonel's shockingly bad judgement is what grabbed my attention. Is he going senile?

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
7. I think Purple Heart recipients -
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:27 PM
Aug 2016

and rightly so - will have something to say about this - Purple Heart is sacred - so sad ....we are even having all this discussion...

tavernier

(12,374 posts)
16. Sacred for some, but not republicans.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:40 PM
Aug 2016

I have vivid and angry memories of their convention against John Kerry when they plastered themselves with Purple Heart band aids, laughing and showing off, mocking Kerry and our troops.

True Dough

(17,294 posts)
12. Gotta be the least deserving Purple Heart in history
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:29 PM
Aug 2016

They should have awarded Drumpf the "Black Heart", as Khizr Khan suggested he possesses.

riversedge

(70,174 posts)
13. Trumps response indicates it is all about him. Wonder if has ANY idea of what
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:30 PM
Aug 2016

these vets go through to be honored with a Purple Heart. Waiting to hear from McCain!


tavernier

(12,374 posts)
15. It's a copy (see end of the story)
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:34 PM
Aug 2016

but the guy told Trump it was the real one.

Why does this sound like a set up to me? Trump's ppl put out word that they need a Purple Heart from one of the fans in the audience... just a copy will do... In exchange for lunch with Fingers and a glossy copy of Melania...

Cosmocat

(14,560 posts)
17. If this is for real - you NEVER, NEVER take that ...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:43 PM
Aug 2016

I can't fathom it ...

No person in their right mind takes a Purple Heart from someone.

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
23. What a low-life jackass.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 12:51 PM
Aug 2016

He should have respectfully declined and said how honored he was, but he could not accept it.

If he "always wanted one," he should have served in VN.

nolabear

(41,956 posts)
25. First Gold Star Mothers and now Purple Heart recipients.
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:04 PM
Aug 2016

Possible jokes about Lucky Charms aside, this man is working to alienate the very people who have been snookered into supporting him so fast that it boggles the mind. I'd say it was on purpose but I truly think it's a sign of the utter non-reflective nature of his personality.

"Oh look! The veterans DO like me! I deserve this! See? That bad man isn't a representative of the people; THIS is what the people think of me! And it's because I'm great!"

My GOD. Anyone who understood the sacrifice made by someone who won a purple heart would NEVER accept one. He'd say "THANK you for having such faith in me. No matter what I do I'll never suffer the kind of thing that you did, and I'll remember you and everyone else in the work I do for you."

But he can't. He thinks that Purple Heart is in the hands of the right guy. I wouldn't be surprised if he hung it on his office wall next to his other "accolades."

onecaliberal

(32,811 posts)
26. I really don't think anyone have it to him. I think he bought it so he could say
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:07 PM
Aug 2016

Someone gave it to him.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
51. This
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:51 AM
Aug 2016

I mean technically he did say he wanted to get one. He very pointedly didn't say anything about earning one.

I'm kind of torn about him not understanding how offensive it is to be gifted one like that. It's good in terms of it is yet another thing that will undermine his credibility and standing in the public eye, but it's bad in that this guy is a major party nominee and he's making a joke out of something so serious.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
30. A normal American
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:14 PM
Aug 2016

would tell the Lt. Col. I am immensely grateful for this gift and your service, but I cannot accept it because I did not earn it like you did. I never served in the military, but I have great respect for those in the armed services, and I am going to do my best to ensure that, if I put you in harm's way, that it is the interests of our country, and I will give you as much support as humanly possible.

That is the correct response from a normal American.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
44. I think the operative word in your post is
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 01:23 PM
Aug 2016

"Normal". Nothing is "normal" about The Donald. Only he would think to ask "Is this real, or a copy?" of a man making such a touching (but unfortunately, unappreciated) gesture. I'm guessing he immediately regretted giving it to him. Trump is a total putz.

stopbush

(24,393 posts)
31. Wow! How stupid is that?
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:18 PM
Aug 2016

No one chooses to get a Purple Heart. No one really does anything to earn one, outside of following orders that put you in harm's way.

The Purple Heart means you were wounded. It means you were probably inches or less away from being killed. It is pure happenstance that you were wounded and not killed, or not wounded at all, for that matter.

Trump looks at the Purple Heart as being an award on par with being named Businessman of the Year, or taking first place in a beauty contest.

"I always wanted to get the Purple Heart." What does that even MEAN? That Trump would have gone into battle, but only if he was assured that he wouldn't be killed, and that as a bonus, he may come out of it with a non-life-threatening wound that got him a Purple Heart?

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
32. Trump says not a word about the sacrifice of the veteran who offered it to him...
Tue Aug 2, 2016, 01:21 PM
Aug 2016

It's always about himself as usual.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
40. I'd like to think that my volunteering for the draft spared someone else
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 12:34 PM
Aug 2016

I knew more than 60 guys on the Wall.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
39. geez
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 12:20 PM
Aug 2016

that Lt. Col is someone that tells me there are a lot of nazi lovers out there just chomping at the bit to put all those minorites in there place. Why in the hell are people so goddamn mean in this country? To vote for the NAZI you have to be mean, bigoted, hateful, mysogynistic and racist.

TexasBushwhacker

(20,159 posts)
46. Yeah, it was much easier for the donor to get shot
Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:06 PM
Aug 2016

I wonder if the guy gelt like taking it back when he said that.

 

Feeling the Bern

(3,839 posts)
48. Is this any more insulting than the Purple Heart band aids they wore at the 2004 RNC
Thu Aug 4, 2016, 12:53 AM
Aug 2016

to slam Kerry's service and Purple Heart?

The GOP uses soldiers/veterans, the bible and children as great political props. . .and moron American voters fall for it all the time.

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