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Wed Aug 3, 2016, 05:57 PM

I know no one will care and I know this will get just REAMED

But, I am out.

I had a great time this weekend. I really enjoyed the convention last week and I asked myself, "Why did you ever leave here??"

I was reminded today. I posted something that I still think could become a problem for Dems both in the election and for Obama and was called a concern troll and accused (I think?? It was a little obsure...) of being a conservative operative trying to...I don't know. I am not real sure what the point of that was.

Have fun!! I am not tough enough for you guys. Continue to pat yourselves on the back and enjoy Trump imploding!!

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Reply I know no one will care and I know this will get just REAMED (Original post)
renie408 Aug 2016 OP
randome Aug 2016 #1
okieinpain Aug 2016 #18
LineReply .
MohRokTah Aug 2016 #2
PJMcK Aug 2016 #3
kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #4
NCTraveler Aug 2016 #10
kestrel91316 Aug 2016 #17
NCTraveler Aug 2016 #20
Agschmid Aug 2016 #31
NCTraveler Aug 2016 #45
Agschmid Aug 2016 #30
MissB Aug 2016 #34
Laurian Aug 2016 #5
writes3000 Aug 2016 #6
MyNameGoesHere Aug 2016 #7
alcibiades_mystery Aug 2016 #8
panader0 Aug 2016 #9
treestar Aug 2016 #11
MichiganVote Aug 2016 #12
NCTraveler Aug 2016 #19
MichiganVote Aug 2016 #22
emulatorloo Aug 2016 #38
MichiganVote Aug 2016 #39
emulatorloo Aug 2016 #41
bigwillq Aug 2016 #13
NCTraveler Aug 2016 #14
randome Aug 2016 #15
NCTraveler Aug 2016 #16
KMOD Aug 2016 #26
LineLineLineLineLineReply .
NCTraveler Aug 2016 #27
emulatorloo Aug 2016 #40
MichiganVote Aug 2016 #24
NurseJackie Aug 2016 #21
NCTraveler Aug 2016 #25
emulatorloo Aug 2016 #43
pnwmom Aug 2016 #23
KMOD Aug 2016 #28
JSup Aug 2016 #29
Native Aug 2016 #32
tymorial Aug 2016 #33
MissB Aug 2016 #35
Chemisse Aug 2016 #36
emulatorloo Aug 2016 #37
deathrind Aug 2016 #42
jack_krass Aug 2016 #44
riderinthestorm Aug 2016 #46
aikoaiko Aug 2016 #47

Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 05:59 PM

1. Eh. You shouldn't run out because someone ELSE wants you to.

 

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to randome (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:39 PM

18. +1 n/t.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:00 PM

2. .

 

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:06 PM

3. Stick around, renie408

You write well and articulate your views exactingly. Keep it up.

"Don't let a few bad apples spoil the whole bunch, girl."

I suspect that you're a lot tougher than some keyboard warrior's attempt to knock you down.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:06 PM

4. I feel so bad that people who choose handles like yours

 

(name followed by number) get called out as trolls just because they act like trolls.

I'm sure that's not you at all.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:24 PM

10. Love this.

 



NCTraveler45187

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #10)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:38 PM

17. And then I realize what name I chose for MYSELF all those years ago,

 

and it occurs to me why so many people treated me with skepticism for so long.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:42 PM

20. Things are never quite the same when people find out I'm not from NC. Lol nt

 

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #20)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:03 PM

31. UM... WHAT?!?!

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Response to Agschmid (Reply #31)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:34 PM

45. It's a part of my deceptive plot. Nt

 

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:03 PM

30. Lol.

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Response to kestrel91316 (Reply #4)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:09 PM

34. You know if they'd just added 12 more....

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:09 PM

5. renie408, I really wish you would stay!

I really enjoyed and appreciated the post you made upon your return.

Don't let overzealous posters drive you away. We need more love and kindness on DU, too.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:09 PM

6. I'm sorry you're frustrated and you got your feelings hurt.

I haven't posted in either of your prior threads but I did follow both. Here's what I observed. You presented something which was new news to you. It was alarming because based on the facts presented it has the potential to hurt Democrats. Once people explained the specifics of the issue, you acknowledged it but the way the media was presenting it still had you very concerned.

From there, it's all about how we react to media narratives in real time. None of us have control over how CNN or NBC or FOX covers a story. So some people brush it off when they know the facts. Others scream in frustration over the inaccuracy. And the remainder sit back to see how big of a problem it can become.

All reactions are legit. But if you were expecting other people to have the same visceral reaction, the same outrage or the same concern, I can get why that could be maddening.

I do believe most people, understood the points you were making. Some may have been dismissive of the issue but I think most people understood why you are genuinely concerned about this story being twisted.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:10 PM

7. Well

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:22 PM

9. Don't sweat the jerks and the "Well Bye" stuff.

Stick around.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:25 PM

11. Accusing us of not wanting to hear the things that could become a problem

is not really fair or true. We should be enjoying this one as there is very little that could become a problem and the opposition is killing itself. We just don't like being brought down all the time. And that Iran thing was fail for the M$M and Trump from the start. It is not something to worry about. It would be one thing to "worry" that the M$M could make something of it that could affect people, but when DUers claim to be worried about pure BS, we push back.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:27 PM

12. Been derisively called a conservative probably about 30x, a troll at least 1x a month,

 

there was a time when I was called a deviant, a communist, a sociopath and my favorite-have been dismissed as a lousy stinkin' moderate 5 or 6x.

So, do what you feel. I usually just reach for ignore and move on. Or if its a dicey day, I just don't sign in and then I won't post.

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Response to MichiganVote (Reply #12)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:40 PM

19. Moderate to communist.

 

Ain't life grand?

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:48 PM

22. I might have said that to someone. Maybe that's what made me a communist. :)

 

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Response to MichiganVote (Reply #22)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:19 PM

38. Dunno how you managed to miss being called a Neon-Liberal

But congrats!

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Response to emulatorloo (Reply #38)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:20 PM

39. I'm more into pink. Guess I gave them a bubble gum vibe.

 

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Response to MichiganVote (Reply #39)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:22 PM

41. ...

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:27 PM

13. Bye, Felicia!

 




(I say this on every thread when someone posts about leaving).

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:28 PM

14. I've been called a racist, bigot, antisemite, sexist...

 

I understand we are all different but this simply doesn't pass the smell test. Stick around. Keep posting your concerns. If you are within the rules then it's all good. I've also been called a troll many many times.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #14)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:29 PM

15. Yeah, but in your case...

 

...JUST KIDDING!
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Birds are territorial creatures.
The lyrics to the songbird's melodious trill go something like this:
"Stay out of my territory or I'll PECK YOUR GODDAMNED EYES OUT!"
[/center][/font][hr]

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Response to randome (Reply #15)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:35 PM

16. That made me smile.

 

A moderator here had a conversation on another board asking their members to bait me. Yes, directly used my handle in an open conversation. To this day said person replies to me about once every other week or and self-deletes minutes later. I find it to be amusing.

I don't go around claiming I have thick skin. I don't think that is required if you are comfortable with yourself.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:59 PM

26. This message was self deleted by the author

 

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Response to KMOD (Reply #26)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:00 PM

27. .

 

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #27)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:20 PM

40. POST HIDDEN

Name Removed

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #14)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:50 PM

24. Oh yeah, those are good ones. Misogynist always cracks me up.

 

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:43 PM

21. It's a tough room, and what you experienced is the result of many people being a distinct...

... minority on this web site for such a long time. It's difficult to give up old habits after being one the defense for such a long time. It's likely that the heightened "intruder alert" senses are overreacting and misreading the clues that could signal someone's intentions.

It could be that your user name is "new" (or unfamiliar) and suspicions are easily aroused.

Give it a little longer. Stick around.

It's just a discussion web site. You're anonymous. We're anonymous. Try not to take it too seriously.

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #21)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:52 PM

25. Well said.

 

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #21)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:28 PM

43. Been Thinking that too, people still smarting. Still in shell-shock, so a bit oversensitive and

a little trigger happy. I think things will settle down in a little while.

Kinda wanted to write a thread about it, but

1. It would be meta
2. I'm too lazy

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 06:49 PM

23. I hope you change your mind and decide to stay. We're all humans, with plenty of flaws,

but our hearts are in the right place.

And nothing I've seen you post makes you look like a troll.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:02 PM

28. Take the night off and

 

come back tomorrow.

Passion can run deep here sometimes, but none of us want to see tRump succeed.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:02 PM

29. I tried to address this...

...very issue recently because it's getting bigger and bigger. I think the newest trolling is to call people 'concern trolls' to create more disunity.

I've noticed a trend recently to brand anyone with concerns as though they are a concern-troll and acting as though their feelings are invalid. We're supposed to be liberals and progressives, not cons that think how people feel doesn't matter.

Can we not use fear of infiltration to invalidate peoples' actual feelings? Concern trolls are pretty obvious.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=2332690

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:04 PM

32. Gee, and I typically only think about leaving when I think it gets boring around here.

Granted I did think it was a bit too exciting (to put it mildly) during the primaries, but now it's almost too staid.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:05 PM

33. I posted something similar but then I found ignore and trash thread.

I was ready to leave because the behavior on this site is deplorable. The petty childish tantrums and personal attacks for daring to question is tiresome. There is a lack of consistency that I find incredibly hypocritical but it isn't going away. Sometimes I grow tired enough to quit all together but then I will see someone who is able to engage in intelligent discussion without allowing emotionalism and the "narrative" get in the way. It gives me hope.. so I stick around.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:11 PM

35. I think it's because you posted about the Iran $400 million

IIRC, that's the post folks thought you were concern trolling on. Perhaps you just hadn't caught up to the real news of that particular story. It happens.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:14 PM

36. It's hard getting reamed in a thread.

I know - it's happened to me more than a few times, and it's not a happy feeling at all.

I posted in your thread. I thought it was fine - you made a legitimate point. DUers are always on the lookout for trolls, including the insidious 'concern troll.' I expect that was why you had so much pushback.

I hope you stay. I'm not tough enough either, but I muddle through, and overall enjoy participating in discussions here very much.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:15 PM

37. Stick around, renie408. Not everyone called you a concern troll

I understood your point and why you were upset. I gave you what I hoped were encouraging words about how we push back against false media narratives. I will miss you so I hope you will stick around.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:24 PM

42. The usual suspects are...

Always going to do that.

But...

Illegitimi non carborundum.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 07:30 PM

44. Youve been here a long time, longer than most of the assholes punking you, so stick around. Fuck'em

 

Some people are just assholes, and just have an inate need to abuse other people(I read your thread about the 400mill). Like I said, Fuck"em.

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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:09 PM

46. Bullying says more about the bullies than you. I am so sorry.

 

I just saw your other thread and was very distressed for you.


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Response to renie408 (Original post)

Wed Aug 3, 2016, 09:16 PM

47. I appreciated the Iran $ thread. I didn't know much about it, heard the recent reports, and learned


a lot from the decent replies to you.

Of course there are the mean mother@#$&^@s who never miss a opportunity to be mean mother@#$&^@s.

Fuck em. Stay if you want.

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