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Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:51 PM

 

Hillary should just go home and play with the grandchildren until Labor Day.

Trump is doing her work for her.

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Reply Hillary should just go home and play with the grandchildren until Labor Day. (Original post)
glennward Aug 2016 OP
democrattotheend Aug 2016 #1
Demsrule86 Aug 2016 #17
madaboutharry Aug 2016 #2
StevieM Aug 2016 #5
stopbush Aug 2016 #11
riversedge Aug 2016 #3
StevieM Aug 2016 #4
Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2016 #9
Drunken Irishman Aug 2016 #10
Chasstev365 Aug 2016 #6
LisaM Aug 2016 #7
auntpurl Aug 2016 #16
Buzz cook Aug 2016 #8
FSogol Aug 2016 #12
KMOD Aug 2016 #13
LAS14 Aug 2016 #14
DemonGoddess Aug 2016 #15

Response to glennward (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:53 PM

1. You could be right

But the danger in that is that if Trump does quit she will have lost all of that time. She still has high negatives and would be very vulnerable against any other Republican. I think it is better, as long as she avoids making a big gaffe or saying stupid stuff like what she said on Fox on Sunday, that she be out there campaigning, showing how hard working and knowledgeable she is. Taking a long vacation would undermine that.

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Response to democrattotheend (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 08:39 AM

17. He won't quit.

And if he did which won't happen ...the GOP would be in worse shape...the base won't support a moderate.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:53 PM

2. She needs to campaign like she's 5 points behind.

Just like Pres. Obama did in 08.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:55 PM

5. And just like Clinton/Gore did in 1992. (eom)

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:32 PM

11. No, she needs to campaign like she's 10 points ahead

which means helping out the down-ticket races as much as possible.

That's the way to establish the narrative that she will win in a landslide and that her coattails will change the Congressional make up. Campaigning like you're behind means you're stuck at Square One, feeding the media narrative that "Trump still has a chance."

I notice she's pull ad $ in Colorado and VA because her chances there have improved greatly. She is reallocating that $ to states where she is now making inroads. She's looking for a larger win, which equals a mandate and the Congress to enact the same. Were she running like she was behind 5 points, she would not be reallocating $. She'd leave it where it was to shore up her heavily blue states.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:53 PM

3. No, she will take nothing for granted.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:54 PM

4. Michael Dukakis made that mistake after the 1988 Convention.

No politician, in either party, has made that mistake since.

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Response to StevieM (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:10 PM

9. Yes. Dukakis had about a 17 point lead just after the D convention (or possibly just before).

GHW Bush then had a good convention and went on the attack, attacks that weren't answered.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Dukakis#1988_presidential_campaign

Dukakis himself blames his defeat on the time he spent doing gubernatorial work in Massachusetts during the few weeks following the Democratic Convention. Many believed he should have been campaigning across the country. During this time, his 17-point lead in opinion polls completely disappeared, as his lack of visibility allowed Bush to define the issues of the campaign. Dukakis has since stated that the main reason he lost was his decision "not to respond to the Bush attack campaign, and in retrospect it was a pretty dumb decision."

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Response to StevieM (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:17 PM

10. Yup. After the convention, he returned home to govern.

 

He ceded so much ground to Bush for a solid two months that almost overnight his 17 point lead vanished.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:58 PM

6. No: she should be running for a mandate and for the Congressional Coattails effect

 

That's what LBJ did with Goldwater in 1964.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 07:59 PM

7. She has been a complete mistress of perfect timing....

Just pops up and appears wholly sane from time to time. And whomever helps her write her tweets can hardly be getting paid enough.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #7)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 02:25 AM

16. Seriously, I hope that person gets a cabinet position.

Secretary of Sass.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:09 PM

8. Two birds with one stone

Work on campaigning for down ticket races. A working vacation from being anti-Trump

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:40 PM

12. Screw that, we need the Senate and the House too. Full speed ahead.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:50 PM

13. No. She is kicking tRump's ass.

 

She has been working very hard for every vote she is earning, regardless of tRump being an ass.

Perhaps you should take a break from posting passive sexist shit, and spend your time until Labor Day setting a good example for your grandchildren.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Thu Aug 4, 2016, 08:52 PM

14. I agree with working as if Trump is going to drop out.

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Response to glennward (Original post)

Fri Aug 5, 2016, 02:21 AM

15. uhhh no

She needs to keep at it, which she is. It'll help the down ballot!

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