2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumI think that the GOP is planning to make this a run for throwing the election into the House.
They put up another candidate to suck up as many votes as they can in some states so that 270 will not be made.
shraby
(21,946 posts)states. The deadline will have passed.
edited to add this link to ballot deadlines.
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates
this will not go to the house.
They say that EVERY 4 years.
still_one
(92,152 posts)election to the House, and was able to capture some southern states.
This election there is almost no chance of any of the independents capturing any states. Maybe Gary Johnson might get New Mexico, but even that would be difficult
PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,848 posts)There's really not time to get someone else on the ballot in enough states for that to work. And that's assuming this hypothetical alternative candidate will win several states.
Ask yourself, if you were a Republican who honored genuine Republican values (and those are not so terrible, even if that might be heresy here) who is currently horrified by Donald Trump as your party's nominee. Will you vote for him because he's a Republican? Maybe. If the party elders revolt and nominate someone else, will you vote for that person? Maybe.
And if the party elders do revolt and put up some other person for the Presidency (and they'll need a VP nominee also, don't forget that), then under what banner will those two run? Donald Trump is the official Republican nominee. Will they say there's now a Republican 2 President and Vice President? Or will they declare another party altogether which would bring up lots of problems about getting on the ballot in many states.
Nope. They're stuck with him. And they have to decide just how strongly they want to support him, or if they want to pretend he's irrelevant and work on the down-ticket races.
In reality, in any election year, the likelihood of the election going to the House, while mathematically possible, is highly unlikely.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)You don't understand the scale of the voting population.
Is this your first election?
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)Nobody who understands how the electoral college functions would make this OP, so it has to be their first election.
still_one
(92,152 posts)to get on the ballot in many states, and that candidate is a virtual unknown.
The votes of this candidate will be taken from Trump, not Hillary.
While it is imperative that we GOTV, it is highly unlikely that these third party candidates will be able to win any states.
States determine the president, not national polls, and at this time the electoral college favors Hillary
MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)So that ain't happening.
longship
(40,416 posts)Seems like a really bad strategy to me.
"We've got them right where they want us!!!!"
Where do people come up with this rubbish?
RAFisher
(466 posts)Every state gets one vote and the first candidate to 26 wins. You need 2/3 a state's delegation to constitute a quorum. So does the GOP have 26 states where they control 2/3rds of the state's congressional seats? Right now they do. But in the next election they are bound to lose house seats. So this does not seem like a full proof plan.
Warren Stupidity
(48,181 posts)Almost all states are plurality winner take all. Splitting the republican votes doesn't hurt Clinton's chances for an electoral college landslide, it helps them. Even if their splinter-R draws some "independent" voters, it still enhances Clinton's chances.
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)Utah, for example. FWIW, Trump appears to actually realize this and he basically threw Utah and Mormons under the bus yesterday in an attempt to pander to evangelicals.
Proud Public Servant
(2,097 posts)He has to hold GA, NC, and AZ while picking up FL, OH, NH, IA, and NV. That seems like a lot to accomplish when it's less than 90 days until the election, you have no field campaign, and you're stuck with the most unpopular standard-bearer in history.