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I think that the GOP is planning to make this a run for throwing the election into the House. (Original Post) glennward Aug 2016 OP
If they get another candidate, that person won't be eligible to be on the ballot in a multitude of shraby Aug 2016 #1
no MFM008 Aug 2016 #2
When George Wallace ran in 1968 he poised an actual possibility of sending the still_one Aug 2016 #6
What exactly makes you think that? PoindexterOglethorpe Aug 2016 #3
ROFL alcibiades_mystery Aug 2016 #4
"Is this your first election?" MohRokTah Aug 2016 #8
That would be a very forminable challege. For one thing it is very difficult for that candidate still_one Aug 2016 #5
Yeah, that depends on Hillary not making 270 MohRokTah Aug 2016 #7
How does that happen when Hillary gets the majority of EV? longship Aug 2016 #9
Do republicans even have the votes in the House? Remember they vote by states, not by members RAFisher Aug 2016 #10
It doesn't work that way. Warren Stupidity Aug 2016 #11
No, if anything this could make it easier for Clinton to pick off more red states. yellowcanine Aug 2016 #12
To be clear, to do that Proud Public Servant Aug 2016 #13

shraby

(21,946 posts)
1. If they get another candidate, that person won't be eligible to be on the ballot in a multitude of
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:52 AM
Aug 2016

states. The deadline will have passed.

edited to add this link to ballot deadlines.
https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_for_presidential_candidates

still_one

(92,152 posts)
6. When George Wallace ran in 1968 he poised an actual possibility of sending the
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:10 AM
Aug 2016

election to the House, and was able to capture some southern states.

This election there is almost no chance of any of the independents capturing any states. Maybe Gary Johnson might get New Mexico, but even that would be difficult

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,848 posts)
3. What exactly makes you think that?
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 12:57 AM
Aug 2016

There's really not time to get someone else on the ballot in enough states for that to work. And that's assuming this hypothetical alternative candidate will win several states.

Ask yourself, if you were a Republican who honored genuine Republican values (and those are not so terrible, even if that might be heresy here) who is currently horrified by Donald Trump as your party's nominee. Will you vote for him because he's a Republican? Maybe. If the party elders revolt and nominate someone else, will you vote for that person? Maybe.

And if the party elders do revolt and put up some other person for the Presidency (and they'll need a VP nominee also, don't forget that), then under what banner will those two run? Donald Trump is the official Republican nominee. Will they say there's now a Republican 2 President and Vice President? Or will they declare another party altogether which would bring up lots of problems about getting on the ballot in many states.

Nope. They're stuck with him. And they have to decide just how strongly they want to support him, or if they want to pretend he's irrelevant and work on the down-ticket races.

In reality, in any election year, the likelihood of the election going to the House, while mathematically possible, is highly unlikely.

 

MohRokTah

(15,429 posts)
8. "Is this your first election?"
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:16 AM
Aug 2016

Nobody who understands how the electoral college functions would make this OP, so it has to be their first election.

still_one

(92,152 posts)
5. That would be a very forminable challege. For one thing it is very difficult for that candidate
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:03 AM
Aug 2016

to get on the ballot in many states, and that candidate is a virtual unknown.

The votes of this candidate will be taken from Trump, not Hillary.

While it is imperative that we GOTV, it is highly unlikely that these third party candidates will be able to win any states.

States determine the president, not national polls, and at this time the electoral college favors Hillary

longship

(40,416 posts)
9. How does that happen when Hillary gets the majority of EV?
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:20 AM
Aug 2016

Seems like a really bad strategy to me.

"We've got them right where they want us!!!!"


Where do people come up with this rubbish?

RAFisher

(466 posts)
10. Do republicans even have the votes in the House? Remember they vote by states, not by members
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 01:36 AM
Aug 2016

Every state gets one vote and the first candidate to 26 wins. You need 2/3 a state's delegation to constitute a quorum. So does the GOP have 26 states where they control 2/3rds of the state's congressional seats? Right now they do. But in the next election they are bound to lose house seats. So this does not seem like a full proof plan.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
11. It doesn't work that way.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:44 AM
Aug 2016

Almost all states are plurality winner take all. Splitting the republican votes doesn't hurt Clinton's chances for an electoral college landslide, it helps them. Even if their splinter-R draws some "independent" voters, it still enhances Clinton's chances.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
12. No, if anything this could make it easier for Clinton to pick off more red states.
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 07:51 AM
Aug 2016

Utah, for example. FWIW, Trump appears to actually realize this and he basically threw Utah and Mormons under the bus yesterday in an attempt to pander to evangelicals.

Proud Public Servant

(2,097 posts)
13. To be clear, to do that
Fri Aug 12, 2016, 08:00 AM
Aug 2016

He has to hold GA, NC, and AZ while picking up FL, OH, NH, IA, and NV. That seems like a lot to accomplish when it's less than 90 days until the election, you have no field campaign, and you're stuck with the most unpopular standard-bearer in history.

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