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Jamaal510

(10,893 posts)
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 04:15 PM Sep 2016

"The Truth Comes Out As CNN Admits They Are Going Easy On Donald Trump"

More: http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/06/truth-cnn-admits-easy-donald-trump.html

CNN’s Dana Bash said what many voters have long suspected. The media has lowered the bar for Donald Trump and goes easier on him with their coverage because they expect less out of the GOP nominee.

Bash was talking about the presidential debates when she provided a perfect example of the media’s double standard in the way they cover Trump and Clinton.

Dana Bash said, “I think the stakes are much higher in this debate and all the debates for Hillary Clinton because the expectations are higher for her because she’s a seasoned politician. She’s a seasoned debater. You know, yes we saw Donald Trump in the primaries debate for the first time, but he is a first-time politician. So um, for lots of reasons. Maybe it’s not fair, but that’s the way it is. The onus is on her.”

Since when does being a first-time candidate mean that the media expects less and grades on a curve?
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"The Truth Comes Out As CNN Admits They Are Going Easy On Donald Trump" (Original Post) Jamaal510 Sep 2016 OP
Yes, and in an international crisis... Jerry442 Sep 2016 #1
Listen, if we have a nuclear war, then we have a nuclear war. sarae Sep 2016 #4
Hitler was a first time politician too katmondoo Sep 2016 #16
Mic drop. Nt Khellendross Sep 2016 #21
lol...XActly !!!! uponit7771 Sep 2016 #12
I personally always expect less from republicans Angry Dragon Sep 2016 #2
I call bullshit . . . . Iliyah Sep 2016 #3
I agree on the bullshit. TrishaJ Sep 2016 #10
Hey, Dana,, trump is a stupid, ignorant, narcisstic, bigoted, racist fuck !!!!!! pangaia Sep 2016 #5
+1, but its most likely NOT talking heads in the M$M who are going to be hurt by a tRump admin uponit7771 Sep 2016 #14
To paraphrase CBS: "tRump may be bad for the nation, but he certainly is good for us." Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #60
A first time politician...who's shooting for the moon. Hong Kong Cavalier Sep 2016 #6
They better not not anymore .... Don has been running for President since the 80 's Kathy M Sep 2016 #7
Tell that to the rest of the world when Don the Con brings out the nukes and fucks the world economy world wide wally Sep 2016 #8
"The onus is on her."???? Wow...Just Wow....n/t monmouth4 Sep 2016 #9
Dontcha love how "The Media" gets to make up these bullshit rules ? nt King_Klonopin Sep 2016 #11
Trump is seasoned, ffs. He had 11 debates in the primary! Media simply profits from horse race Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #13
They are unashamed at how tilted they are, ... just fuckin wow uponit7771 Sep 2016 #15
By that logic, we should grade on the curve for medical licenses. tinrobot Sep 2016 #17
Idiot Dana Bash! jaxind Sep 2016 #18
This was discussed on Diane Rehm this morning. It's so unfair. Basically, Trump will declared.... Tarheel_Dem Sep 2016 #19
This just makes me sick to read. MoonRiver Sep 2016 #20
Donald Trump dakdirty Sep 2016 #22
+1 Yallow Sep 2016 #23
Not the first time running public office .... he has tried in past Presidential elections and Kathy M Sep 2016 #27
Putin isn't going to evaluate Trump on a curve because he's new to politics. Ilsa Sep 2016 #24
The expectations should be higher for an untried candidate! neeksgeek Sep 2016 #25
so if the best football team plays the worst football team,...? unblock Sep 2016 #26
Wow. Capitalism at Its Finest... SDJay Sep 2016 #28
Amen Jay. Boomerproud Sep 2016 #34
Spot On! n/t LittleGirl Sep 2016 #49
He participated in around 19 presidential debates, so far, this election. Mc Mike Sep 2016 #29
When did Bash pull her head out of W's ass? CrispyQ Sep 2016 #30
And I am paying a lot of money to have cable turbinetree Sep 2016 #31
Well, we did know this NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #32
They're going down the same "Fox" hole. C Moon Sep 2016 #33
CNN Afraid of Trump TV bucolic_frolic Sep 2016 #35
"This is your brain surgeon's first operation" forgotmylogin Sep 2016 #36
THANK YOU!!!!! Except this is GLOBAL brain surgery! Maru Kitteh Sep 2016 #57
Don't you know it's a horse race? Not Sure Sep 2016 #37
kick & recommended. William769 Sep 2016 #38
They really are the Press corpse. AllyCat Sep 2016 #39
Seriously, Dana? ladym55 Sep 2016 #40
Ummm.....we DO want high standards for our Presidents? Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2016 #41
Watching this unfold everyday is extremely frustrating ecstatic Sep 2016 #42
And the onus is on the media Granny M Sep 2016 #43
CNN Political Reporting is Mostly a Reality Show JI7 Sep 2016 #44
THAT explains why CNN is so boring. Eleanors38 Sep 2016 #61
Bush was a Politician who was Governor from a Major State and yet they did the same with him JI7 Sep 2016 #45
Since when does being a first-time candidate mean that the media expects less and grades on a curve? mdbl Sep 2016 #46
As Gomer Pyle would say, "SURPRISE, SURPRISE, SURPRISE!" Little Star Sep 2016 #47
bwahaaaa, I just heard him say it while I read it! LittleGirl Sep 2016 #50
How 'bout the CNN Labor Day special on that POS! wolfie001 Sep 2016 #48
It's 2000 all over again. RandySF Sep 2016 #51
...and some of us are old enough to remember when the press did the same thing for Reagan. n/t Still In Wisconsin Sep 2016 #56
Yeah, fuckin GOPee bias has nothing to do with it. BlancheSplanchnik Sep 2016 #52
So he could take a dump on the debate stage and they will still vote for him. lonestarnot Sep 2016 #53
or in the middle of 5th Ave. (nt) klook Sep 2016 #54
Must. Have. Horse. Race. Still In Wisconsin Sep 2016 #55
Yes, by all means, handle the dangerous nutcase with kid gloves, he's so fragile... VOX Sep 2016 #58
Wait! check with Katrina Pierson. maddiemom Sep 2016 #59

Jerry442

(1,265 posts)
1. Yes, and in an international crisis...
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 04:20 PM
Sep 2016

...it's OK if Donald's finger on the nuclear trigger gets itchy because, y'know, our expectations in that department are really low.

sarae

(3,284 posts)
4. Listen, if we have a nuclear war, then we have a nuclear war.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 04:29 PM
Sep 2016


Everyone makes mistakes. C'mon, he's new to this stuff!

TrishaJ

(797 posts)
10. I agree on the bullshit.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 04:51 PM
Sep 2016

They must be getting lots of complaints - as they should. Now they are throwing out excuses as to why their coverage is so biased.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
5. Hey, Dana,, trump is a stupid, ignorant, narcisstic, bigoted, racist fuck !!!!!!
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 04:30 PM
Sep 2016

Get it? DUH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,571 posts)
6. A first time politician...who's shooting for the moon.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 04:45 PM
Sep 2016

I would like to think that in a sane world, the press would go after him even harder, since he's shown that he's not qualified to run this country.

In a sane world, of course.

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
7. They better not not anymore .... Don has been running for President since the 80 's
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 04:48 PM
Sep 2016

" Seven years after Trump's Rona Barrett interview, in the spring of 1987, Michael Dunbar, a furniture maker in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, tried to convince Trump that he was the man who could turn things around. The Republican Party activist had become fascinated by news reports about Trump's business acumen and personality. He sent out mailers encouraging Republicans to "draft Trump." Friends told him the idea was laughable, but Dunbar invited Trump to speak to the local Rotary Club. Trump, intrigued, invited Dunbar to discuss the idea at Trump Tower that summer.

The two devised a plan: Trump would fly his helicopter to a New Hampshire airfield, speak to the Rotary crowd at Yoken's restaurant, and hold a news conference."

"A few weeks later, Trump took out full-page ads opining on foreign policy in three major newspapers. "There's nothing wrong with America's Foreign Defense Policy that a little backbone can't cure," he wrote in the ads, which cost a combined $95,000. He questioned why the U.S. continued to provide military funds to Japan and Saudi Arabia, and implored, "Let's not let our great country be laughed at anymore."

The image of the rest of the world laughing at U.S. leaders would become an enduring theme in Trump's political rhetoric. This time, it came in the seventh year of Ronald Reagan's presidency, just weeks before the publication of Trump's book The Art of the Deal, in which Trump called Reagan a smooth performer but questioned whether "there's anything beneath that smile."

Rest at http://theweek.com/articles/637675/donald-trumps-decadeslong-obsession-being-president

At Link below is YouTube video of 2 interviews at the 1988 Republican convention with Donald Trump . First interview is with Larry King the second interview is with Chris Wallace



video automatically transferred so hope it works ...

From the 1 st article Don is using the same theme then as now ...... NO he should not have any bar set lower at all .

world wide wally

(21,718 posts)
8. Tell that to the rest of the world when Don the Con brings out the nukes and fucks the world economy
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 04:48 PM
Sep 2016

"But you have to understand. He is a first time politician"

I am sure they will not feel as much grief because of that.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,773 posts)
13. Trump is seasoned, ffs. He had 11 debates in the primary! Media simply profits from horse race
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 04:54 PM
Sep 2016

11 debates is about the same number as Hillary has had in her entire career (Senator, Presidential candidate).

Neither candidate has had a debate as a Presidential nominee.


tinrobot

(10,848 posts)
17. By that logic, we should grade on the curve for medical licenses.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 05:11 PM
Sep 2016

I mean someone who has been through medical school and a residency is more "seasoned" than someone who has never been to college. Let's give those less "seasoned" people a break and let them become doctors, too.

Sarcasm aside, the presidency is one of the toughest jobs out there. Just like with doctors, people's lives literally depend on who is president.

No breaks should be given. Make the test hard.

jaxind

(1,074 posts)
18. Idiot Dana Bash!
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 05:24 PM
Sep 2016

We're talking about the Presidency of the United States here...the highest position in the world! So, maybe if he's not seasoned and politically experienced enough, maybe then he shouldn't be our President!!! We're not talking about looking for a coach for a kids' soccer team here! We need someone who we can be confident can actually do the job!!!

Tarheel_Dem

(31,207 posts)
19. This was discussed on Diane Rehm this morning. It's so unfair. Basically, Trump will declared....
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 05:31 PM
Sep 2016

the winner if he doesn't throw up on stage. They've successfully lowered the bar for him, just as they've always wanted to do. The media is complicit in the rise of Don the Con, and for what? Ratings?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
20. This just makes me sick to read.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 05:38 PM
Sep 2016

I've completely had it with the MSM! Haven't watched them since early this morning, after listening to non-stop chatter about the biased CNN poll. And I have no intention of doing so again, until they start playing fair with OUR CANDIDATE!

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
27. Not the first time running public office .... he has tried in past Presidential elections and
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 06:45 PM
Sep 2016

has dropped out

Crooked politician since at least the 80's

" Long time scumbag "

Ilsa

(61,675 posts)
24. Putin isn't going to evaluate Trump on a curve because he's new to politics.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 06:06 PM
Sep 2016

Putin and other aggressors are going to hammer the crap out of trump.

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
25. The expectations should be higher for an untried candidate!
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 06:27 PM
Sep 2016

ANY person running for this particular office should be held to a very high standard. But this is especially true in the case of Donald Trump, who has shown that he lacks the characteristics most sane people expect in a leader. A press corp that was doing its job would try very hard to make such a candidate prove himself.

unblock

(51,973 posts)
26. so if the best football team plays the worst football team,...?
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 06:35 PM
Sep 2016

do they say, the onus is on the best football team to up their game?

it's a win for the worst football team if they just don't drool on themselves when they fumble every other play?

SDJay

(1,089 posts)
28. Wow. Capitalism at Its Finest...
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 06:49 PM
Sep 2016

It doesn't matter that the MSM is openly propping up a dangerous, deranged candidate for President of the United States. It doesn't matter that successfully propping him up may, quite literally, lead to the end of civilization. None of that matters.

ALL that matters is the reality that reporting on this fucking walking time bomb honestly means that this election would be such a blowout that people wouldn't watch the dreck they're spewing on these teevee stations. That's ALL THAT MATTERS to these fuckers. Nevermind small little things like the future of the planet or everyone who lives on it. Nah, ratings... it's all about the ratings and the ad revenue. Screw everything else, including the duty of journalists to objectively report facts. Oh, and all of humanity.

Unbelievable.

Mc Mike

(9,106 posts)
29. He participated in around 19 presidential debates, so far, this election.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 06:50 PM
Sep 2016

And 'he crushed all opposition', to hear the drump campaign and repug party tell it.

But, by all means, go easier on tRump, CNN and Bash. Fools.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
32. Well, we did know this
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 07:07 PM
Sep 2016

The MSM is too busy yakking about Hillary's emails (when the FBI has exonerated her at least twice) to do actual reporting on the man they adoringly call "The Donald." Dana Bash just said it out loud, finally.

C Moon

(12,188 posts)
33. They're going down the same "Fox" hole.
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 07:07 PM
Sep 2016

Viewers are already losing respect for the station, they'll pay for it.

forgotmylogin

(7,496 posts)
36. "This is your brain surgeon's first operation"
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 09:26 PM
Sep 2016

"We don't hold the bar as high since this is his first time, it's normal to make some mistakes your first day..."

Maru Kitteh

(28,303 posts)
57. THANK YOU!!!!! Except this is GLOBAL brain surgery!
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 01:38 PM
Sep 2016

So we shouldn't expect the fucking idiot to actually have any idea what he's doing yet? It's his "first time?"

We're not waiting for him to sneak out of the house at 2am to lose his virginity beside the creek here. No no no no no. Just hell no.

Not Sure

(735 posts)
37. Don't you know it's a horse race?
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 10:16 PM
Sep 2016

Nevermind the thoroughbred has an anchor tied to its hoof, that's just to keep it interesting. Who's going to watch this bullshit if it's not close?

ETA: See?

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/06/_politics-zone-injection/trump-vs-clinton-presidential-polls-election-2016/

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
40. Seriously, Dana?
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:36 PM
Sep 2016

The onus is on her??? Really???

Can you 'splain that concept to the rest of the world that is totally dumbfounded at our election this year?

You just demonstrated to us all how incredibly worthless M$M has become.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,353 posts)
41. Ummm.....we DO want high standards for our Presidents?
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:45 PM
Sep 2016

Don't we?


Did the MSM just get collective amnesia about 2001-2009 and how bad a POTUS George W Bush was?

And before they start talking about Trump selecting a bunch of "experts" for his cabinet to guide him, is anybody paying attention to the absolutely crazy people he picked to help with his campaign?

ecstatic

(32,566 posts)
42. Watching this unfold everyday is extremely frustrating
Tue Sep 6, 2016, 11:48 PM
Sep 2016

Hillary is attacked for any and everything. For things she didn't even do. They are doing their best to criminalize her, then they ask why the public doesn't trust her.

Are you kidding me? They create the "narrative" day in and day out, then wonder why the public has bought into the narrative?

Meanwhile, trump gets this ridiculous pass. It used to be funny, but now I'm so sick of seeing his ugly, lying face.

Granny M

(1,395 posts)
43. And the onus is on the media
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 03:38 AM
Sep 2016

if this gobshite wins. I call bullshit, indeed.

I just sent her a nasty tweet. Look out, Granny's on Twitter now.

JI7

(89,172 posts)
45. Bush was a Politician who was Governor from a Major State and yet they did the same with him
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 03:52 AM
Sep 2016

if he doesn't fuck up too bad he is the winner.

Gore sighed so BUsh is the winner............


mdbl

(4,972 posts)
46. Since when does being a first-time candidate mean that the media expects less and grades on a curve?
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 07:00 AM
Sep 2016

You don't have to be a first time candidate. Look at Ronald Raygun and GW Shrub - they are still being given a huge pass for all the destruction they caused.

LittleGirl

(8,261 posts)
50. bwahaaaa, I just heard him say it while I read it!
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 09:40 AM
Sep 2016

snicker...that made me laugh. Made my day.

Grew up in Indiana like Gomer and Pence.
Lots of Gomers in the Midwest.

But Governor Pence plays himself in that comedy.

wolfie001

(2,131 posts)
48. How 'bout the CNN Labor Day special on that POS!
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 08:10 AM
Sep 2016

Like he gives a rat's ass about the workers here in the US. What a bunch of bullshit!

RandySF

(57,583 posts)
51. It's 2000 all over again.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 10:05 AM
Sep 2016

Some of us are old enough to remember when the press would declare Bush the Winner of any day he did not drool all over the place.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
52. Yeah, fuckin GOPee bias has nothing to do with it.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 10:10 AM
Sep 2016

Fucking hell, this isn't golf or whatever the hell sport where you give inexperienced players a handicap.

Inexperienced--just what we want in a candidate for LEADER OF THE MOST POWERFUL NATION.

Jeeeeezzzzusssss h krist.... Didn't they criticize Obama in 2008 for being inexperienced? I know media did.

 

Still In Wisconsin

(4,450 posts)
55. Must. Have. Horse. Race.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:47 AM
Sep 2016

The debates should never be moderated by anyone working for an organization that has a vested interest in having an "interesting" race that generates lots of viewers and clicks for said organization. So, nobody from Fox or CNN or MSNBC or ANC or even NPR.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
58. Yes, by all means, handle the dangerous nutcase with kid gloves, he's so fragile...
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 02:27 PM
Sep 2016

And never call him out on his outrageous claims, tirades, bizarre tangents, pure hate speech, etc. He's new to this, so be nice to him, he's a first-timer, even though he insults you baselessly and repeatedly to your face. Plus, he's pure ratings dynamite, so show some tolerance and some love for our loveable proto-fascist and his wonderfully whacky ideas. He sure speaks his mind, doesn't he?

In the meantime, Hillary's foundation and emails, blah blah and her coughing jags blah blah and 25 years ago Bill said blah blah something funny going on there blah blah...Wait...we now take you live to Flyspeck, Wyoming, where Donald Trump is set to give a major speech on U.S. relations with Freedonia...and now, here's America's mayor, Rudy "9/11" Guiliani, to introduce Mr. Trump...

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