2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"The Truth Comes Out As CNN Admits They Are Going Easy On Donald Trump"
More: http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/06/truth-cnn-admits-easy-donald-trump.html
Bash was talking about the presidential debates when she provided a perfect example of the medias double standard in the way they cover Trump and Clinton.
Dana Bash said, I think the stakes are much higher in this debate and all the debates for Hillary Clinton because the expectations are higher for her because shes a seasoned politician. Shes a seasoned debater. You know, yes we saw Donald Trump in the primaries debate for the first time, but he is a first-time politician. So um, for lots of reasons. Maybe its not fair, but thats the way it is. The onus is on her.
Since when does being a first-time candidate mean that the media expects less and grades on a curve?
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)...it's OK if Donald's finger on the nuclear trigger gets itchy because, y'know, our expectations in that department are really low.
sarae
(3,284 posts)Everyone makes mistakes. C'mon, he's new to this stuff!
katmondoo
(6,454 posts)Where did that get Germany?
Khellendross
(28 posts)uponit7771
(90,225 posts)Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)TrishaJ
(797 posts)They must be getting lots of complaints - as they should. Now they are throwing out excuses as to why their coverage is so biased.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Get it? DUH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Hong Kong Cavalier
(4,571 posts)I would like to think that in a sane world, the press would go after him even harder, since he's shown that he's not qualified to run this country.
In a sane world, of course.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)" Seven years after Trump's Rona Barrett interview, in the spring of 1987, Michael Dunbar, a furniture maker in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, tried to convince Trump that he was the man who could turn things around. The Republican Party activist had become fascinated by news reports about Trump's business acumen and personality. He sent out mailers encouraging Republicans to "draft Trump." Friends told him the idea was laughable, but Dunbar invited Trump to speak to the local Rotary Club. Trump, intrigued, invited Dunbar to discuss the idea at Trump Tower that summer.
The two devised a plan: Trump would fly his helicopter to a New Hampshire airfield, speak to the Rotary crowd at Yoken's restaurant, and hold a news conference."
"A few weeks later, Trump took out full-page ads opining on foreign policy in three major newspapers. "There's nothing wrong with America's Foreign Defense Policy that a little backbone can't cure," he wrote in the ads, which cost a combined $95,000. He questioned why the U.S. continued to provide military funds to Japan and Saudi Arabia, and implored, "Let's not let our great country be laughed at anymore."
The image of the rest of the world laughing at U.S. leaders would become an enduring theme in Trump's political rhetoric. This time, it came in the seventh year of Ronald Reagan's presidency, just weeks before the publication of Trump's book The Art of the Deal, in which Trump called Reagan a smooth performer but questioned whether "there's anything beneath that smile."
Rest at http://theweek.com/articles/637675/donald-trumps-decadeslong-obsession-being-president
At Link below is YouTube video of 2 interviews at the 1988 Republican convention with Donald Trump . First interview is with Larry King the second interview is with Chris Wallace
video automatically transferred so hope it works ...
From the 1 st article Don is using the same theme then as now ...... NO he should not have any bar set lower at all .
world wide wally
(21,718 posts)"But you have to understand. He is a first time politician"
I am sure they will not feel as much grief because of that.
monmouth4
(9,663 posts)King_Klonopin
(1,305 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,773 posts)11 debates is about the same number as Hillary has had in her entire career (Senator, Presidential candidate).
Neither candidate has had a debate as a Presidential nominee.
uponit7771
(90,225 posts)tinrobot
(10,848 posts)I mean someone who has been through medical school and a residency is more "seasoned" than someone who has never been to college. Let's give those less "seasoned" people a break and let them become doctors, too.
Sarcasm aside, the presidency is one of the toughest jobs out there. Just like with doctors, people's lives literally depend on who is president.
No breaks should be given. Make the test hard.
jaxind
(1,074 posts)We're talking about the Presidency of the United States here...the highest position in the world! So, maybe if he's not seasoned and politically experienced enough, maybe then he shouldn't be our President!!! We're not talking about looking for a coach for a kids' soccer team here! We need someone who we can be confident can actually do the job!!!
Tarheel_Dem
(31,207 posts)the winner if he doesn't throw up on stage. They've successfully lowered the bar for him, just as they've always wanted to do. The media is complicit in the rise of Don the Con, and for what? Ratings?
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I've completely had it with the MSM! Haven't watched them since early this morning, after listening to non-stop chatter about the biased CNN poll. And I have no intention of doing so again, until they start playing fair with OUR CANDIDATE!
dakdirty
(90 posts)First time politician, long time scumbag.
Kathy M
(1,242 posts)has dropped out
Crooked politician since at least the 80's
" Long time scumbag "
Ilsa
(61,675 posts)Putin and other aggressors are going to hammer the crap out of trump.
neeksgeek
(1,214 posts)ANY person running for this particular office should be held to a very high standard. But this is especially true in the case of Donald Trump, who has shown that he lacks the characteristics most sane people expect in a leader. A press corp that was doing its job would try very hard to make such a candidate prove himself.
unblock
(51,973 posts)do they say, the onus is on the best football team to up their game?
it's a win for the worst football team if they just don't drool on themselves when they fumble every other play?
SDJay
(1,089 posts)It doesn't matter that the MSM is openly propping up a dangerous, deranged candidate for President of the United States. It doesn't matter that successfully propping him up may, quite literally, lead to the end of civilization. None of that matters.
ALL that matters is the reality that reporting on this fucking walking time bomb honestly means that this election would be such a blowout that people wouldn't watch the dreck they're spewing on these teevee stations. That's ALL THAT MATTERS to these fuckers. Nevermind small little things like the future of the planet or everyone who lives on it. Nah, ratings... it's all about the ratings and the ad revenue. Screw everything else, including the duty of journalists to objectively report facts. Oh, and all of humanity.
Unbelievable.
Boomerproud
(7,887 posts)I have nothing to add to your post except to say "I hate Dana Bash."
LittleGirl
(8,261 posts)Mc Mike
(9,106 posts)And 'he crushed all opposition', to hear the drump campaign and repug party tell it.
But, by all means, go easier on tRump, CNN and Bash. Fools.
CrispyQ
(36,221 posts)Tell her what you think.
https://twitter.com/danabashcnn
turbinetree
(24,631 posts)this is outrageous--do your job or give me a refund
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)The MSM is too busy yakking about Hillary's emails (when the FBI has exonerated her at least twice) to do actual reporting on the man they adoringly call "The Donald." Dana Bash just said it out loud, finally.
C Moon
(12,188 posts)Viewers are already losing respect for the station, they'll pay for it.
bucolic_frolic
(42,651 posts)so they're cutting him slack already
forgotmylogin
(7,496 posts)"We don't hold the bar as high since this is his first time, it's normal to make some mistakes your first day..."
Maru Kitteh
(28,303 posts)So we shouldn't expect the fucking idiot to actually have any idea what he's doing yet? It's his "first time?"
We're not waiting for him to sneak out of the house at 2am to lose his virginity beside the creek here. No no no no no. Just hell no.
Not Sure
(735 posts)Nevermind the thoroughbred has an anchor tied to its hoof, that's just to keep it interesting. Who's going to watch this bullshit if it's not close?
ETA: See?
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/06/_politics-zone-injection/trump-vs-clinton-presidential-polls-election-2016/
William769
(55,124 posts)AllyCat
(16,031 posts)ladym55
(2,577 posts)The onus is on her??? Really???
Can you 'splain that concept to the rest of the world that is totally dumbfounded at our election this year?
You just demonstrated to us all how incredibly worthless M$M has become.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,353 posts)Don't we?
Did the MSM just get collective amnesia about 2001-2009 and how bad a POTUS George W Bush was?
And before they start talking about Trump selecting a bunch of "experts" for his cabinet to guide him, is anybody paying attention to the absolutely crazy people he picked to help with his campaign?
ecstatic
(32,566 posts)Hillary is attacked for any and everything. For things she didn't even do. They are doing their best to criminalize her, then they ask why the public doesn't trust her.
Are you kidding me? They create the "narrative" day in and day out, then wonder why the public has bought into the narrative?
Meanwhile, trump gets this ridiculous pass. It used to be funny, but now I'm so sick of seeing his ugly, lying face.
Granny M
(1,395 posts)if this gobshite wins. I call bullshit, indeed.
I just sent her a nasty tweet. Look out, Granny's on Twitter now.
JI7
(89,172 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)JI7
(89,172 posts)if he doesn't fuck up too bad he is the winner.
Gore sighed so BUsh is the winner............
mdbl
(4,972 posts)You don't have to be a first time candidate. Look at Ronald Raygun and GW Shrub - they are still being given a huge pass for all the destruction they caused.
Little Star
(17,055 posts)LittleGirl
(8,261 posts)snicker...that made me laugh. Made my day.
Grew up in Indiana like Gomer and Pence.
Lots of Gomers in the Midwest.
But Governor Pence plays himself in that comedy.
wolfie001
(2,131 posts)Like he gives a rat's ass about the workers here in the US. What a bunch of bullshit!
RandySF
(57,583 posts)Some of us are old enough to remember when the press would declare Bush the Winner of any day he did not drool all over the place.
Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Fucking hell, this isn't golf or whatever the hell sport where you give inexperienced players a handicap.
Inexperienced--just what we want in a candidate for LEADER OF THE MOST POWERFUL NATION.
Jeeeeezzzzusssss h krist.... Didn't they criticize Obama in 2008 for being inexperienced? I know media did.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)klook
(12,134 posts)Still In Wisconsin
(4,450 posts)The debates should never be moderated by anyone working for an organization that has a vested interest in having an "interesting" race that generates lots of viewers and clicks for said organization. So, nobody from Fox or CNN or MSNBC or ANC or even NPR.
VOX
(22,976 posts)And never call him out on his outrageous claims, tirades, bizarre tangents, pure hate speech, etc. He's new to this, so be nice to him, he's a first-timer, even though he insults you baselessly and repeatedly to your face. Plus, he's pure ratings dynamite, so show some tolerance and some love for our loveable proto-fascist and his wonderfully whacky ideas. He sure speaks his mind, doesn't he?
In the meantime, Hillary's foundation and emails, blah blah and her coughing jags blah blah and 25 years ago Bill said blah blah something funny going on there blah blah...Wait...we now take you live to Flyspeck, Wyoming, where Donald Trump is set to give a major speech on U.S. relations with Freedonia...and now, here's America's mayor, Rudy "9/11" Guiliani, to introduce Mr. Trump...
--Submitted with for concern for big $$$, high ratings and disregard for any actual consequences, or doing what's right for America,
Your Liberal (heh heh) Media
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Isn't the "onerous" on Hillary?