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niyad

(113,275 posts)
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:21 AM Sep 2016

Retired general calls Trump's 30-day ISIS order 'sophomoric'

Retired general calls Trump's 30-day ISIS order 'sophomoric'

By Leinz Vales, CNN


Retired Army Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling served for 37 years in the Army
He is a national security, intelligence and terrorism analyst for CNN

(CNN)A retired army general is slamming Donald Trump's remarks that as President he will ask the US military to come up with a plan within one month to defeat ISIS. "I had to ask myself, what the hell does he think we've been trying to do for the last 14 years in terms of al Qaeda?" Retired Army Lt. Gen. Mark Hertling told Anderson Cooper on AC360 on Tuesday. At a rally in Greenville, North Carolina, Trump said that on day one of his presidency, he would convene his top generals and give what he called a "simple instruction" to in 30 days submit to the Oval Office "a plan for soundly and quickly defeating ISIS."

The former commanding general decried Trump, calling his orders "simplistic" and insulting to individuals working to defeat ISIS. "It shows a complete lack of understanding of the threat and the ways to fight it," Hertling said. "It's a sophomoric approach to elements of national security policy because if he's just calling in the military, he's missing the point that there are several other elements of national security that will help defeat ISIS."

Hertling argued that the US has made some good advances against ISIS. Democrats have highlighted statements Trump has made about military leaders in the past, most notably criticizing him for saying in November 2015, "I know more about ISIS than the generals do, believe me." Hillary Clinton brought up the line in July, saying, "No, Donald, you don't."

Trump's comments came on the same day his campaign released a letter signed by 88 retired military leaders endorsing his presidential candidacy, including four four-star generals and 14 three-star flag officers. 88 former military leaders write letter backing Donald Trump for President. Hertling said he was surprised by the letter praising Trump. "I didn't recognize many of those names as being there in the fight with me over the last 16 years," Hertling said. "There aren't a whole lot of names in the fight against al Qaeda or several of the other forces."
He said most of the names on the list are Navy admirals who were not on the ground during the war against terror.

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http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/07/politics/mark-hertling-trump-30-day-isis-plan/

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Retired general calls Trump's 30-day ISIS order 'sophomoric' (Original Post) niyad Sep 2016 OP
Navy admirals. Who'd a thunk it. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #1
I like what hertling said about them--clearly, no love lost. . . niyad Sep 2016 #4
Saw him yesterday and he was great... Satch59 Sep 2016 #2
The phrase "...30 days submit to the Oval Office... Whiskeytide Sep 2016 #3
without a doubt niyad Sep 2016 #5
Bingo. Hong Kong Cavalier Sep 2016 #9
Now, I would have said "preschoolic." Hortensis Sep 2016 #6
but wait a minute mopinko Sep 2016 #7
so he has someone to blame when his plan blows up, of course. niyad Sep 2016 #10
of course. mopinko Sep 2016 #12
your last line sums it up perfectly niyad Sep 2016 #13
i'm pretty old, too. mopinko Sep 2016 #14
so am I--and I started out cynical, and still cannot keep up. niyad Sep 2016 #15
"it's never enough to keep up" awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #23
yes, yes it is. mopinko Sep 2016 #25
If Trump "knows more than the generals" about ISIS, why doesn't he give THEM the plan? yellowcanine Sep 2016 #8
so he has someone to blame when his plan blows up, of course. niyad Sep 2016 #11
Trump is an idiot Gothmog Sep 2016 #16
Trump supporters NewJeffCT Sep 2016 #17
what comes before pre-school? niyad Sep 2016 #18
That's about right. nt awoke_in_2003 Sep 2016 #24
We have far too many generals.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2016 #19
sadly, so very true. niyad Sep 2016 #20
My plan: drop Trump on them. malthaussen Sep 2016 #21
by far the most sensible plan I have heard, and guaranteed results!! not to mention--his hair will niyad Sep 2016 #27
It's a horrible war crime... malthaussen Sep 2016 #29
you are quite correct. I had not thought about the war crimes aspect. perhaps the ICC will niyad Sep 2016 #30
Retired general calls trump's 30-day ISIS 'spohmoric' leimen Sep 2016 #22
imagine where America will be with another Republican- impulsive juvenile warmonger in the WH. Sunlei Sep 2016 #26
this time, it might really be the end times. niyad Sep 2016 #28

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
2. Saw him yesterday and he was great...
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:28 AM
Sep 2016

He should be on every show...and he's right, Trump's "orders" are insulting. Who is he to come in with no knowledge of military actions and then take the rein and say "jump" to military generals...

I so hope Trump gets some real questions from the vets tonight...I want to see him squirm.

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
3. The phrase "...30 days submit to the Oval Office...
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:28 AM
Sep 2016

... 'a plan for soundly and quickly defeating ISIS' " is Trumpish for "We're gonna drop nukes on them". His supporters certainly understand it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
6. Now, I would have said "preschoolic."
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:35 AM
Sep 2016

Trump is far too ignorant and megalomaniacal to begin to understand the knowledge of true professionals, like some of our neighbors on the subject but far worse.

mopinko

(70,089 posts)
7. but wait a minute
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:48 AM
Sep 2016

why wont he be calling in the generals to share his wealth of knowledge, and explain the plan to them?

mopinko

(70,089 posts)
12. of course.
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 11:56 AM
Sep 2016

why didnt i think of that. need to up my game here.

"i get more and more cynical the older i get, but it's never enough to keep up."

niyad

(113,275 posts)
27. by far the most sensible plan I have heard, and guaranteed results!! not to mention--his hair will
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 07:25 PM
Sep 2016

be out of our hair!

niyad

(113,275 posts)
30. you are quite correct. I had not thought about the war crimes aspect. perhaps the ICC will
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 07:30 PM
Sep 2016

forgive us in this one instance.

leimen

(13 posts)
22. Retired general calls trump's 30-day ISIS 'spohmoric'
Wed Sep 7, 2016, 02:13 PM
Sep 2016

I served under LTG hertling in USAREUR this is an educated and thoughtful man. He is not a nut. He knows what he is talking about. Listen to him mr. Trump

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