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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 09:16 AM Sep 2016

Matt Lauer, are you out there? Do you know what The Google is ??

YOU sat there and allowed a candidate for President of the United States to suggest we take Iraq's oil. Which may violate International Law, US Law, and the Geneva Convention. !!! A triple header !!

Should be headline of day !!!

The U.S. may have kept the spoils of war “in the old days,” but not since 1907. The Hague Conventions banned the seizure of enemy property except when absolutely necessary. Article 23 (g) in particular states that it is “especially forbidden” to “destroy or seize the enemy’s property, unless such destruction or seizure be imperatively demanded by the necessities of war.” Given the U.S. military’s extensive resources– and that Trump wanted to use the proceeds to pay widows– it’s hard to argue that seizing Iraqi oil would have been a military necessity.

U.S law defines a war crime in part as any conduct “prohibited by Article 23, 25, 27, or 28 of the Annex to the Hague Convention IV, Respecting the Laws and Customs of War on Land, signed 18 October 1907.” Trump’s proposal would have therefore been in violation not just of international law, but U.S. law as well.

It’s also possible Trump’s proposal would violate the Geneva Conventions. Article 33 of the 1949 convention, to which the United States is also a signatory, states simply that “pillage is prohibited.” Article 28 of the 1907 Hague Conventions likewise holds that, “The pillage of a town or place, even when taken by assault, is prohibited.”

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-argues-united-states-should-have-carried-out-war-crime-in-iraq/

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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. Wouldn't it have been just perfect, if Matt Lauer, simply said, "Did you know
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 10:31 AM
Sep 2016

there are US and International Laws and a Geneva Convention that making what you are saying a war crime?"

Trump would have just brushed that off

Lauer followup: "Are you saying you want to be president and you don't care about US and Internation laws????????"

FSogol

(45,476 posts)
4. This is long established law. The 4th Geneva Convention of 1949 banned
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 10:37 AM
Sep 2016

pillaging or taking a nation's natural resources. The Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 were also modified in 1954 to make armies responsible for protecting a warring nation's treasures and resources (think of the Iraqi museums that were being looted during Bush's ill-advised war.)

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
5. Yes. But, why do you think it isn't mentioned? Just heard
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:34 AM
Sep 2016

Hillary's news conference and she brought up the subject about Trump saying we should keep the oil. She commented that the logistics, costs, ground troops required to do this would be astonishing. But, what I don't get is why you wouldn't throw in the fact that it violate US and International Law.

This just strikes me as such a potent point. I envision ads about it. You want this guy who is already saying he wants to break laws and conventions?

unitedwethrive

(1,997 posts)
7. Lauer clearly has only superficial knowledge of the issues. Also doesn't realize that
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 11:46 AM
Sep 2016

paying for veterans to use private hospitals and doctors IS privatizing veteran's care.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
8. true. I was floored the day I heard he was a mod. thought he had
Thu Sep 8, 2016, 04:39 PM
Sep 2016

been out of the news business for many years. Uh...you know who is horrible to me too in Martha from ABC. She's definitely a right leaner with an annoyingly nasal accent.

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