2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumForbes thoroughly debunks media hysteria about Hillary fainting. Please read.
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It has just been reported that she is being treated for pneumonia and is doing well.
Not epilepsy, Parkinson's, MS, or any of the other chronic and debilitating conditions the RWers wanted her to have.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/emilywillingham/2016/09/11/is-it-really-possible-to-faint-from-heat-as-clinton-claims/#43113041fe39
People who want Hillary Clinton to be unfit to be president have spent monthsyearstrotting out several diagnoses to claim her unfitness. Among them is epilepsy, which seems to be favored in that crowd, while another is dementia. Neither, of course, has anything to do with what we can see on that video. One does not faint when having a seizure, for example.
One can, however, feel overheated and faint. I was just at an indoor show that was pretty crowded when the fellow in front of me dropped like his bones had turned to rubber. People helped him out into an airy waiting area and got him some water. Within a few minutes, hed recovered and was back in the venue, staying for the remaining 2 hours of the show. He did not, however, have to release any statements about his health. He was also the second man Id seen just in that evening whod fainted in a crowded, warm place.
Feeling faint with heat or even fainting because of it isnt the same thing as heat stroke. Its known as heat syncope. Unlike some assertions people are making about it now, yes, you can recover your equilibrium from it pretty quickly once you get a chance to cool down and rest for a bit. Fainting is usually the result of a drop in blood pressure or change in heart rate that reduces the blood reaching the brain, as occurs in people of all ages with sudden or prolonged standing or being overheated. Lying down and restoring that circulation is a pretty rapid fix.
Clintons campaign already released a statement saying that her feeling of faintness was because of feeling overheated. She was wearing black on a warm morning, and millions of people have had the exact same experience, with no ominous aftermath.
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Based on the Twitter response and glut of stories within an hour of the episode, some in the press see smoke in this event and think theres a fire. But would they if Trump and his supporters and those who preceded him hadnt already worked so hard to plant exactly that kind of reaction to Clintons every possible misstep or stumble, literal or figurative?
Hard to say, but the same tactic has already worked on the more gullible members of the media who follow the false narrative threads about Clintons various scandals that turn out to be nonscandals.
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MADem
(135,425 posts)It's obvious that wingers who aren't entirely and deplorably deluded know that Trump would be a disaster for our country.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Ishoutandscream2
(6,661 posts)You nailed it.
mobeau69
(11,143 posts)Too bad for the deplorables; it's treatable and it's covered by Obamacare.
MADem
(135,425 posts)recently.
Up and running, now.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Once in Nov. of last year and again last month. Last month's episode put me in the hospital four days. I have recovered now, but being in the hospital was worse than the disease.
Patiod
(11,816 posts)It's always the guys. The women are wearing skimpy dresses, the men are in full wool suits, so down they go.
tblue37
(65,336 posts)Besides, if people are right about her wearing a Kevlar vest, that would add even more weight and heat.
octoberlib
(14,971 posts)disaster of a fashion show that Kanye West staged on Roosevelt Island a couple days ago and 18 year old models were fainting in the heat. They were wearing a lot less clothing than Hillary had on this morning.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)ohtransplant
(1,488 posts)and very easily for anyone over 60.
I was at an amusement park last summer and crouched down to talk with my granddaughter. When I stood up I was nearly out on my feet. Luckily I regained consciousness very and quickly caught myself before hitting the ground. It was very brief but very noticeable as I staggered a little while regaining my balance.
No adult over 60 has the same reflexes and reactions as a 35 year old.
Also;
There's a long history of mild Presidential illness such as when GHWB threw up in Japan.
Maybe this is also why the republican nominee should also release his results from a full and recent physical exam.
Outside of bizzaro world this is a non-story.
merrifield
(73 posts)I'll take Hillary's PHYSICAL health over Trump's MENTAL health any day of the week.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)What about Dubya drunk at the Olympics, being helped to his seat by 5 or 6 SS agents? Why didn't THAT rate attention?
Andy823
(11,495 posts)Those who want Hillary Clinton to be unfit to be president, are doing their best to make this into something horrible, and it's not. Their agenda is the same as it was during the primaries, and even back to the days when many of these same posters were constantly doing their best to make President Obama look bad on a daily basis. They have their own little hate site, but I guess it's more fun for them to come over here and play games. They think they are getting away with something, but they are so obvious it's pathetic. No matter how much the don't want her to be president, she will win, Trump will lose, and she will be the next president.
Thanks for the post.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)BlueInPhilly
(870 posts)Reading these various threads, one would think that HRC is in a coma! Kinda disappointing.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)pepperbear
(5,648 posts)"is it really possible to faint from heat as Clinton claims?" couching it as a mere "claim" alone is a red flag.
sounds like they don't believe her. one has to read the article to find out that they are on her side.
most uninformed and undecided people will not read it because of the way it is phrased; it telegraphs exactly what they want to hear.
Just MHO.
Still just a right wing rag being a "correct clock one of 2x a day."
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)and then answer it -- in her favor.
Yes, it's a Republican business magazine. But I'm fine with GOPers who support Hillary. We need all the votes we can get.
MADem
(135,425 posts)This is the reverse of "damn with faint praise." They're "absolving with faint endorsement."
bucolic_frolic
(43,142 posts)Remember? LAX was shut down because Bill Clinton wanted to get
a hair cut and he had to get off the plane and everyone waited.
The media went into a frenzy. CNBC was hysteric.
Years later it was all debunked, and why the White House didn't call
them out on it far earlier is anyone's guess.
We should NOT ALLOW THIS TO HAPPEN TO HILLARY CLINTON
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Decreed that you don't reply to bullshit about you. It was seen as "lowering yourself".
It seems only recently that Democrats are calling out REPUKE bullshit. Thankfully.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)And I was wearing a t-shirt and shorts.
I misjudged the weather (low-mid 80's, moderate humidity), didn't drink enough cool water and stood in the sun too long. I got woozy very fast and nearly collapsed. I found some shade, sat down and got some cool water. In 10 minutes, I was feeling just fine. People WAY over-reactung to this.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)all along.
Scarsdale
(9,426 posts)That would add to the discomfort of heat, and humidty, too.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Sad point, but right on.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)It looks more to me like she was having trouble stepping off the sidewalk. Is that what fainting looks like?
ETA: up, nvm I saw that her feet were being dragged. God damn it.
R B Garr
(16,950 posts)God damn it is right. lol
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)vdogg
(1,384 posts)This in a nutshell explains the uptick in concern trolling today.