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Just released statement from HRC's doc: she is being treated for pneumonia (Original Post) mcar Sep 2016 OP
t-rump is going to chillfactor Sep 2016 #1
He should be shut down fast mcar Sep 2016 #4
Was just going to post this. You beat me to it. Persondem Sep 2016 #2
Thanks mcar Sep 2016 #5
Explains the coughing. narnian60 Sep 2016 #3
Yep mcar Sep 2016 #8
So she has been iron womaning it with pneumonia...figures. BootinUp Sep 2016 #6
My thoughts exactly! mcar Sep 2016 #9
I taught class with pnreumonia for two weeks and simultaneously ran my home daycare, tblue37 Sep 2016 #70
That makes sense. kstewart33 Sep 2016 #7
Okay, quit speculating - We now have the facts CajunBlazer Sep 2016 #10
Indeed mcar Sep 2016 #12
Pneumonia is nothing to ignore or think of as something minor. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #11
And the damn shot is enough to kill a horse! lonestarnot Sep 2016 #13
especially those who can't afford to see a doctor. Pathwalker Sep 2016 #15
At least we can be pretty sure she can afford to PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #45
I don't think you quite addressed Pathwalker's point Ghost Dog Sep 2016 #63
I don't think I need to, as it was just a knee-jerk sort of statement PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author MichiganVote Sep 2016 #16
Indeed! We need Hillary to get well quickly. In_The_Wind Sep 2016 #21
Right hope she can rest properly. elleng Sep 2016 #26
My husband was hospitalized for it 2 years ago and was off work a month nt maryellen99 Sep 2016 #50
Even sick with pneumonia, Hillary rocks! Tanuki Sep 2016 #14
She is amazing mcar Sep 2016 #17
Yep! GWC58 Sep 2016 #33
Young to older have "walking pneumonia", and I did not to long ago. Iliyah Sep 2016 #18
She wasn't going to miss this memorial mcar Sep 2016 #23
Yes. I know no one who's working as hard as HRC's Hortensis Sep 2016 #55
My brother-in-law had it earlier in the summer. greatauntoftriplets Sep 2016 #40
I got it in college treestar Sep 2016 #58
thanks-- I was just going to post that Fast Walker 52 Sep 2016 #19
Pneumonia is not an ongoing issue... Satch59 Sep 2016 #20
Exactly mcar Sep 2016 #22
I had it too--took forever to get rid of it spooky3 Sep 2016 #25
yep and the earlier it is diagnosed, the quicker you come back from it yellowdogintexas Sep 2016 #60
I can't stand the spin on this board kcjohn1 Sep 2016 #24
What? mcar Sep 2016 #28
No one you know has ever had pneumonia? vdogg Sep 2016 #29
Pneumonia is leading killer among the very young and old kcjohn1 Sep 2016 #37
Where? In Russia? joeybee12 Sep 2016 #48
American Thoracic Society kcjohn1 Sep 2016 #69
Are you talking about "walking pneumonia?" Too much hype here. LAS14 Sep 2016 #65
Uh, I've pneumonia FIVE times, hospitalized twice, not dead yet. Pathwalker Sep 2016 #67
What spin? Satch59 Sep 2016 #31
It's not bad news. It's highly treatable and then it will be over. pnwmom Sep 2016 #32
sometimes I wonder about you John Ligyron Sep 2016 #39
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Sep 2016 #43
A bunch BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #46
YUP ... they ... JoePhilly Sep 2016 #51
!!!! BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #54
You of course mean more doom and gloom. RonniePudding Sep 2016 #44
Well then leave! helpisontheway Sep 2016 #52
I have to mostly agree with you. toddwv Sep 2016 #75
ugh this is such a headache retrowire Sep 2016 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2016 #30
Tough as nails. joshcryer Sep 2016 #34
She really is! mcar Sep 2016 #36
She doesn't give up, doesn't give in. joshcryer Sep 2016 #38
like the man said at the DNC "She won't stay throwed!!!" yellowdogintexas Sep 2016 #61
I had pneumonia in my early twenties during my first senseandsensibility Sep 2016 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author kestrel91316 Sep 2016 #41
exactly KMOD Sep 2016 #53
I had pneumonia a few years ago. Ligyron Sep 2016 #42
Might as well announce it now and get all of the health stuff over with. goldent Sep 2016 #47
this is when we need Liz, Bernie, Obama, Kaine, Biden, O'Malley, Murphy, Shumer Motley13 Sep 2016 #49
There is a diagnosis MFM008 Sep 2016 #56
Allergies, post-nasal drip, congestion... Beartracks Sep 2016 #57
I had bronchitis and pneumonia at age 28. MoonRiver Sep 2016 #59
The first time I had walking pneumonia I was sixteen DemonGoddess Sep 2016 #62
My cynicism gets the best of me. The Right, and Media will embellish on this. YOHABLO Sep 2016 #64
Freeperville has sunk even lower in my estimation. anamnua Sep 2016 #66
I have had walking pneumonia ellie Sep 2016 #71
Mahalo for this, mcar.. Healing Thoughts for Hillary! Cha Sep 2016 #72
Thanks cha! mcar Sep 2016 #74
plus all those hands to shake and air travel mainer Sep 2016 #73

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
1. t-rump is going to
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:23 PM
Sep 2016

slobber this all over the place about her health and not being fit to be president.

mcar

(42,298 posts)
4. He should be shut down fast
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:24 PM
Sep 2016

At least by a true media. Pneumonia is an illness, not a serious chronic condition. She's being treated and will be fine.

mcar

(42,298 posts)
8. Yep
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:26 PM
Sep 2016

And considering how bad pollen is all over the place, it's not a big mystery why one might develop pneumonia as a result.

tblue37

(65,290 posts)
70. I taught class with pnreumonia for two weeks and simultaneously ran my home daycare,
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:15 PM
Sep 2016

until I finally managed a couple of hours free to get to the doctor. (I was in my 40s at the time. Now I am 66.)

It is dangerous to not get pneumonia treated. People can die from it. But if one is under a doctor's care and gets treated in a timely fashion, then it is just an annoyance.

My doctor chewed me out for iron-womaning through it, because that really was dangerous. I had been using DayQuil to suppress my symptoms, so when I deliberately didn't take it the day I went to the doctor, so she could see my symptoms, I was really, really sick.

Nearly 30 years ago my younger sister nearly did die of pneumonia at age 34, because she had 3 young kids and was toughing it out, the way we women do when others depend on us. She assumed she was just unable to get rid of a lingering cold.

Women are always pushing themselves to take care of everything for everybody. Hillary, fortunately, is in a position where she can get excellent care to make sure she is in top condition all the time. I am sure she got to the doctor and got treated with antibiotics as soon as she felt that she was sick rather than just tired.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
7. That makes sense.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:26 PM
Sep 2016

It seemed to me that in the last week, Hillary did not look well. I thought it was fatigue given her relentless schedule of activities. Did anyone else notice this?

So glad to know that she'll be better!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
11. Pneumonia is nothing to ignore or think of as something minor.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:26 PM
Sep 2016

She needs to take some time off and get some rest.

People still die from pneumonia, often because they did not take it seriously enough.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
45. At least we can be pretty sure she can afford to
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:05 PM
Sep 2016

see a doctor. Plus, she ought to be on Medicare at this point, right?

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
68. I don't think I need to, as it was just a knee-jerk sort of statement
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:43 PM
Sep 2016

I see a lot of here.

And pneumonia doesn't just kill those who don't, won't, or can't afford to go to a doctor. It really is a serious disease.

I heard on NPR a couple of hours ago that she was diagnosed on Friday and told to rest. Ignoring doctors orders isn't such a bright or Presidential thing to do. Really. What is she thinking? What are her advisors thinking?

Response to PoindexterOglethorpe (Reply #11)

elleng

(130,861 posts)
26. Right hope she can rest properly.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:35 PM
Sep 2016

I understand pneumonia's a common 'last call' in nursing homes, where patients can't/don't walk around.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
18. Young to older have "walking pneumonia", and I did not to long ago.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:30 PM
Sep 2016

Felt faint and dizzy at times. I commend HRC for her strength, she met with the victims of 911 and attended the memorial. But alas, the un-caring corporate media with their cronies GOPers and right wingers are some hateful mother**kers.

Can't stand the USA media.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
55. Yes. I know no one who's working as hard as HRC's
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:25 PM
Sep 2016

grueling schedule, and that's only what we know about -- not all the meetings and briefings running into the small hours, the fires that have to be dealt with, and so on.

She famously also has a lifelong good-girl habit of always doing her homework and showing up to everything fully prepared. Bet it's very hard for her to push the files and memos aside to choose much-needed rest instead.

Just today I was wondering again what it must be to feel as if the weight of a nation to save it from a President Trump disaster was on her shoulders.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,731 posts)
40. My brother-in-law had it earlier in the summer.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:53 PM
Sep 2016

He was pretty sick, but it took my sister yelling at him and the doctor agreeing to get him to take it easy for a few days.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
20. Pneumonia is not an ongoing issue...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:30 PM
Sep 2016

If Trump jumps on it, he'll look (more) foolish...

I had walking pneumonia this year: cough lasted awhile and energy was down but recovered just fine...

She'll be fine and whatever conspiracy they want to come up go ahead...

spooky3

(34,429 posts)
25. I had it too--took forever to get rid of it
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:34 PM
Sep 2016

Some days you could not get out of bed--others, you felt fine except for a nasty cough.

yellowdogintexas

(22,250 posts)
60. yep and the earlier it is diagnosed, the quicker you come back from it
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:29 PM
Sep 2016

I have been diagnosed twice with severe bronchitis twice and was wiped out for a week. During the onset before I finally broke down and went to doc in the box, the most complicated thing I could do was watch the Food Channel. My hair hurt! The term "not feeling well" would have been an understatement at that point.

Anyway, it sort of crept up on me. I had been progressively feeling unusually tired which I put down to working overtime. Decided to just veg out all weekend and woke up on Saturday sick as all get out. The doctor said I had a severe bronchitis but the radiologist's report said it was pneumonia.

If this crept up on her like that one did on me, with the schedule she keeps - I am not in the least surprised she felt faint.

I am just glad she is OK, diagnosed and being treated

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
24. I can't stand the spin on this board
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:33 PM
Sep 2016

Somehow this is good news as it explains everything?

I wish there was more realistic discussion on events impact on the election. Instead we have every bad and good news being spun the same way.

mcar

(42,298 posts)
28. What?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:37 PM
Sep 2016

It's not good news, per se, but it does explain what happened today.

This should stop the breathless speculation and concern that has been rampant here today.

I haven't spun anything; I simply posted real news. Sorry you didn't like it. Feel free to post your own realistic discussion.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
29. No one you know has ever had pneumonia?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:38 PM
Sep 2016

You really think this is a deal breaker for people when it is a common, treatable, yet albeit serious illness? Thanks for your concern. Perhaps people on this board are just happy that the speculation is over and it's not something more serious.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
37. Pneumonia is leading killer among the very young and old
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:48 PM
Sep 2016

It is very serious illness.

My point was in reference to how some people here are cheering that its just pneumonia and somehow Clinton health as political issue will go away. The fact Clinton campaign put this out now tells you how much they are concerned by this issue. It was calculated decision to put this out there as its better than speculation about her mental/physical health, but just because this might sound better doesn't mean this issue is bad politics.

If she truely is healthy and has no more incidents, I don't think this is going to be major issue. But another collapse during the debate or some public event might be one of the few avenues in which we have Trump presidency.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
48. Where? In Russia?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:10 PM
Sep 2016

My father in his 90's had pneumonia about seven times, always treatable...this was a man with a bad heart and cancer...try your doom and gloom and bad science elsewhere.

kcjohn1

(751 posts)
69. American Thoracic Society
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 09:03 PM
Sep 2016
Pneumonia is the world’s leading cause of death among children under 5 years of age, accounting for 15% of all deaths of children under 5 years old. There are 120 million episodes of pneumonia per year in children under 5, over 10% of which (14 million) progress to severe episodes. There was an estimated 935,000 deaths from pneumonia in children under the age of five in 2013.


Older people have higher risk of getting pneumonia, and are more likely to die from it if they do. For US seniors, hospitalization for pneumonia has a greater risk of death compared to any of the other top 10 reasons for hospitalization.


The death rate from pneumonia in the US has had little or no improvement since antibiotics became widespread more than half a century ago. We are not yet winning the battle against pneumonia

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
67. Uh, I've pneumonia FIVE times, hospitalized twice, not dead yet.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 08:05 PM
Sep 2016

Lots of antibiotics, sleep sitting up, rest until you're stir crazy, plenty of liquids, and she'll be fine. You're way over dramatizing this.

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
31. What spin?
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:40 PM
Sep 2016

She has an illness that she will recover from...it shuts up the conspiracy junk.

Most here are wishing her well...

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
32. It's not bad news. It's highly treatable and then it will be over.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:41 PM
Sep 2016

I've had various forms -- bacterial, viral, and walking pneumonia -- several times, and it doesn't affect my life except when I'm in the midst of a bout.

Response to Ligyron (Reply #39)

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
51. YUP ... they ...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:13 PM
Sep 2016

... disappeared after the death of the indictment fairy ... and now some have come back for a mini-reunion tour.

helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
52. Well then leave!
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:14 PM
Sep 2016

Not everyone wants to participate in your gloom and doom...Oh this is so bad for Hillary theory.........

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
75. I have to mostly agree with you.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:01 PM
Sep 2016

Particularly with the Presidential debates coming up in two weeks this adds fuel to the "Hillary's health is failing." In all likelihoods, she will recover and regain her health. Unfortunately, we're in the crux of the election season and this could be a game changer that could take her off the campaign trail for several weeks during this vitally important period of time.

I do, however, see it as a good thing in regards to answering the reason why she has been having coughing fits.

Personally, I don't think having pneumonia should be a deal changer, after all, we've had several presidents with even more serious conditions. However, the reality is that it could very well erase any gains made by Hillary since the tremendous bump after the conventions.

It's a net loss for her campaign to win the presidency.

Response to mcar (Original post)

senseandsensibility

(16,989 posts)
35. I had pneumonia in my early twenties during my first
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:47 PM
Sep 2016

year teaching. This often happens young teachers who aren't used to the grind and overdo it mentally and physically. I will say the doctor ordered me to miss work for a week, although I didn't want to.

Response to mcar (Original post)

Ligyron

(7,624 posts)
42. I had pneumonia a few years ago.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 05:57 PM
Sep 2016

They gave me this inhalator that seemed like it had meth in it. Felt great after I would take a hit, but I knew better. If it had to hit it late in the day I couldn't sleep.

My case lasted about a week.

Motley13

(3,867 posts)
49. this is when we need Liz, Bernie, Obama, Kaine, Biden, O'Malley, Murphy, Shumer
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:11 PM
Sep 2016

to come out strong.
she will need some rest

She can do some videos from her bed

Get well soon, the country needs you.


MFM008

(19,804 posts)
56. There is a diagnosis
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:30 PM
Sep 2016

as if she had the Flu, my mom just had this not long ago,
2 zip packs and it was gone and she has COPD, shes fine now.
Now we ALL know republicans are DEPLORABLE,
but if the maggot pushes this he brings back speculation about his own health.
Probably why he hasn't died in a twitter storm. Hes older than her,
he takes a statin which is to control high cholesterol,
not to mention the most questionable doctors note in medical history.

Beartracks

(12,806 posts)
57. Allergies, post-nasal drip, congestion...
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:49 PM
Sep 2016

... this can lead to pneumonia, even in the summertime.

=====================

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
59. I had bronchitis and pneumonia at age 28.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 06:58 PM
Sep 2016

I went on antibiotics and was fully functional after about a week. Docs told me to take it easy, but I didn't, lol. There were clients to counsel and a small child to care for. I'm still kicking, almost 40 years later!

DemonGoddess

(4,640 posts)
62. The first time I had walking pneumonia I was sixteen
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:34 PM
Sep 2016

it's miserable, but recoverable. It takes a huge amount of fortitude to keep working THROUGH the illness.

anamnua

(1,108 posts)
66. Freeperville has sunk even lower in my estimation.
Sun Sep 11, 2016, 07:56 PM
Sep 2016

The hideous gloating there is beneath contempt.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
73. plus all those hands to shake and air travel
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 03:51 AM
Sep 2016

I have to meet numerous people and fly overseas. Always come home with a bug.

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