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senseandsensibility

(16,712 posts)
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:46 AM Sep 2016

Obviously, Hillary needs to tell people

that the reason she didn't publicize her illness on Friday is because she owed it to all the heroes of 9-11 to be at the ceremony. She didn't want to take the attention away from them.

It's the truth as well as being obvious.

Why am I saying this? I just watched CNN and she is being criticized by even the "liberal" talking heads for not coming forward yesterday.

Will Dems defend her in this obvious and truthful way, or will they hibernate as they did during John Kerry's swiftboating?

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Obviously, Hillary needs to tell people (Original Post) senseandsensibility Sep 2016 OP
Well vadermike Sep 2016 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author still_one Sep 2016 #2
She should NOT say that if it's not the absolute and complete truth. LeftRant Sep 2016 #3
She should not say that if it's the absolute truth? senseandsensibility Sep 2016 #6
I missed a word. Sorry for the confusion :p LeftRant Sep 2016 #9
Dems need to get tough radius777 Sep 2016 #4
I agree completely. senseandsensibility Sep 2016 #5
To borrow a phrase from WC Fields world wide wally Sep 2016 #7
bahahahaha! excellent! :) Divine Discontent Sep 2016 #8
Post removed Post removed Sep 2016 #10
The difference is that HIllary is not a political hack. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #15
Well ...... LenaBaby61 Sep 2016 #11
I watch very little these days...it is funny MSNBC is so anxious to get the Fox conservative ratings Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #14
Totally agree... LenaBaby61 Sep 2016 #16
It should have been obvious after they obsessesd over cough-gate BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #12
There are no liberal talking heads these days. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #13
I think I stated your first sentence in my OP senseandsensibility Sep 2016 #17
Sad to see the media turn into such a hot mess. Demsrule86 Sep 2016 #18
It doesn't matter what she says Dem2 Sep 2016 #19

vadermike

(1,415 posts)
1. Well
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 01:50 AM
Sep 2016

Dems should be defending her and Jennifer grandhilm and others have I think she will rest up and get well soon I guess if the RW wants to attack her they can go right ahead Probably won't do any good for then but who knows I just hope the Dems don't become too mealy mouthed Just defend her and move on

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LeftRant

(524 posts)
3. She should NOT say that if it's not the absolute and complete truth.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 02:03 AM
Sep 2016

I don't want to be lied to by anyone, left, right, or center. Don't be a pandering pol. No.

radius777

(3,624 posts)
4. Dems need to get tough
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 02:09 AM
Sep 2016

and start attacking the underlying sexist sentiment of all of this 'Hillary healtherism' bullshit.

Lots of candidates in the past have had illnesses, Ronald Reagan probably had early stage Alzheimers, Dick Cheney had 4 heart operations, etc - yet none of that was made an issue of to the extent that this is.

After all, most people who run for president are going to be older, and have certain health issues, this is normal.

What's not normal is a candidate like Trump, who is a 70yo overweight man who could have numerous health issues (heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, etc) not releasing a proper medical report from a credible/respected physician, like Hillary has.

world wide wally

(21,718 posts)
7. To borrow a phrase from WC Fields
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 03:16 AM
Sep 2016

"Hillary will be better tomorrow, and Trump will be crazy for the rest of his life"

Response to senseandsensibility (Original post)

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
15. The difference is that HIllary is not a political hack.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:54 AM
Sep 2016

In order to get elected you have to play the game...and that is it. The 'pure ' don't get that. And if you are so jaded that you don't support our nominee then why are you here? This is Democratic Underground. I don't think Hillary owes a rapacious press details about her pneumonia so they can savage her some more with a little help it seems.

LenaBaby61

(6,965 posts)
11. Well ......
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 05:40 AM
Sep 2016

It's bad enough that Hillary had to endure being piled upon by many in the "Liberal" press due to non-stories covering Benghazi, private server/emails, her being a woman running for the presidency, her appearance, her age, her supposed lack of honesty/truthfulness and more lately her health. Meanwhile, tRump was given a PASS since he entered the race many months ago and was allowed to say just about anything he wanted to and still wants to without remorse and without having many people taking him on for his scurrilous antics towards, women, the disabled, minorities, the poor, undocumented immigrants, workers etc. My God, very few people were speaking truth to power and taking this asshole ON consistently like Hillary, Liz Warren, Joy-Ann Reid, Eugene Robinson, Paul Krugman and several others.

Now, I have my own thoughts about IF Hillary should have mentioned that she had Walking Pneumonia to the press etc. I'm sure in her mind she didn't want anything concerning her health to take any attention away from what was to be services/ceremonies held to honor those who perished in 9/11 15 years ago. I'm also sure that she didn't want the likes of Drudge, tRump himself, Alex Jones and other POS right-wingers and other conspiracy theorist loonies saying that she was dying, sick, had cancer or whatever. Unfortunately, there is tape out there showing her ill, not well and being lead away while stumbling into a van from the 9//11 ceremonies--tape that I'm sure we'll be seeing and talking about ad nausea There's also tape showing her coming out of her daughter's apartment showing her looking none the less for wear--looking particularly "normal." But now we know she was suffering from Walking Pneumonia per a release from her personal doctor. We know that the stories of her being sicker than suffering from what ailment she has is REALLY going to ratchet up the "Hillary is dying" meme times 1 million from those crazies on the right, and from some in the so-called legitimate/so-called "Liberal" press. There will also be those criticizing her for holding such information from the press. There will also be some Democrats criticizing her on not mentioning her health issue as has been mentioned by a few in this thread. Hillary, like many others who were a major part of the effort to help first responders, their families, and of course those who lost family members in our nations worst domestic attack. I for sure cannot say for sure, but Hillary probably wanted to SHOW the terrorists/ISIS or whomever yesterday that we're here, not going anywhere and not cowering in fear from them in a corner. I'm hoping she stands strong as I KNOW she can, and I'm hoping that she has her A+ surrogates are out in force because the attacks that will be leveled on her for being "reckless" by those on the right and news media/pundits is coming at her, and coming at he hard and strong no doubt. I'll continue my support for Hillary without any doubts or fears, and hope for the very best concerning this situation, although I don't trust the so-called "Liberal" news media as far as I could throw a Mack Truck, to talk about this particular situation with much if any fairness at all.

Also for my part, I'll definitely be picking and choosing which television new shows I watch, mostly choosing to remain here and on a few more liberal cites because I know that "they" who are haters and detractors like tRump et all will try to make Hillary pay a heavy price for deciding to go to 9/11 ceremonies while ill, and make her seem selfish for not sharing her health information with the news media or general public. IF she had shared her health information with the press before the 9/11 weekend ceremonies, that would have taken all of the attention away from those who were being honored. I'm almost sure of that as I can be. Either way, this situation I'm sure will be with us for a long, nauseating time unfortunately

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
14. I watch very little these days...it is funny MSNBC is so anxious to get the Fox conservative ratings
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:52 AM
Sep 2016

that they have lost pretty much all liberals...so they won't get conservatives and they no longer have liberals..they have no audience. I am not sure it is about ratings...I think that those who own the stations have a right-wing bent similar to radio and forge ahead in spite of ratings.

BumRushDaShow

(127,288 posts)
12. It should have been obvious after they obsessesd over cough-gate
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 05:45 AM
Sep 2016

that something was amiss but you move on.

No one seems to ask about why Trump looked so flushed (red over orange) at the CIC forum - and was stuttering and babbling like an idiot.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
13. There are no liberal talking heads these days.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 06:48 AM
Sep 2016

If she had come forward, then it would have been inappropriate for Hillary to take away from all those brave e 9-11 men and women...she can't win with that crowd and will have to manage without them. But hey, thanks for the advice and concern.

Demsrule86

(68,347 posts)
18. Sad to see the media turn into such a hot mess.
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:27 PM
Sep 2016

I always enjoy campaigns and watching TV shows about the issues and happenings, but this year...not at all.

Dem2

(8,166 posts)
19. It doesn't matter what she says
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 10:30 PM
Sep 2016

Nor does it matter what the press says (most people abhor the press these days.)

It matters what people of common sense believe , and since all people get ill from time to time, I think this will be a good thing no matter what the talking dildos on TV say.

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