2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumANY campaign should know by now: Electrolyte drinks/chews are your BEST friend at events.
You don't even have to be sick to benefit from electrolyte drinks in event situations where crowds are pressing around you ala 9/11 memorial. People often faint at these crowded events.
I used to put on large events in LA and couldn't even imagine dong them now that I am older without gatorade or another form of electrolyte drinks. And when you add the inevitable illness, then use the more expensive pedialyte.
The person charged with being HRC's body person isn't doing their job well, imo. Or they just aren't aware.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Hillary has to do twice as much to get half the credit, so they need to know all of this stuff. Maybe get her diet as healthy as possible too - that goes a long way.
blm
(113,047 posts).
underpants
(182,778 posts)Dehydration is the WORST thing that can happen to you in training (aside from actual injury). The one marathon that I had to drop out of was due to dehydration and, it turned out, a fever.
They should have been prepared for her to be out on a day like that.
Nay
(12,051 posts)her people to make sure she had pedialyte and fast energy bars.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)I couldn't do that
blm
(113,047 posts)'God' needed him to carry on ..or was it the 'Second Mendment' or 'Two Corinthians'? heheh .or some other bullshit like that.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Since I stopped drinking them, my GIRD (and all the trouble of sticking scopes down my throat) has subsided. You just can't speak for others.
blm
(113,047 posts).
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)I was dehydrated back in June from 2 days with diahria. I had no appetite but I kept drinking water. Then around midnight I caught a cramp in my leg and my husband was massaging it. Then I jumped up because I had to go to the bathroom, and walked around the foot of the bed, and my husband told me I fell straight back. I had fainted.
When I came to, I heard my husband shouting and I asked him why he was talking so loud. He said he was talking to 911, I had fainted. I immediately said, "no I didn't", and he said, "yes you did". And I had no recollection of it. The paramedics arrived quickly and loaded me into an ambulance, and I had what I can only describe as an out of body experience and I felt like I was above the scene looking down. There were two paramedics in the ambulance and a driver. One paramedic on my left was trying to get a blood pressure, and the one on my right was trying to start an IV. The one on my left kept saying, "I can't get a blood pressure". The one on my right kept saying "I can't find a vein." But he opened a needle package and stuck me, and he said that the vein collapsed. He then tried another and the same thing happened.
The blood pressure guy kept saying he couldn't get a blood pressure, and I heard them discussing it may be cup they were using and they said that the BP cup is known to have problems at times and doesn't always work and they wouldn't try again, that we were close to the hospital and they'd wait and let them try.
The good news is that if I didn't actually have an out of body experience, but I was hallucinating or something, (for me it was and always will be an out of body (near death) experience), and everything from my perspective was calm and peaceful, while everything happening around me was chaotic except for me. Once I got to the hospital, my first BP reading was a very low numberhe , something over 38, I can't recall exactly. "The nurse said, that can't be right, let me try it again using a different cup. I still had on the cup that that the paramedics were using" If this is what near death feels like, than I can handle it. I was not afraid. I was very calm. It was surreal.
The ER doctor told me that in the future, never to drink water for dehydration and especially with diahria. Drink a sports drink. He said you lose a lot of potassium with water through the diahria which is probably what cause my lightheadedness and fainting. You need something to replenish the potassium and the electrolytes. At age 58, I didn't know not to drink water when dehydrated. I will never forget now. Since then I keep two bottles of Sports Drinks in my fridge at all times, just in case.
radius777
(3,635 posts)Yeah, by not eating and continuing to drink water, it made the situation worse.
The sports chews and bars are also good.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)Your experience was harrowing, no doubt, but you can't speak for everybody. Posts giving medical advice are actually prohibited here for this very reason. Please remember that no two people have the exact same chemistry.
wncHillsupport
(112 posts)are not recommended by real nutrition scientists. Plain water works best. But...if you are in the midst of a crowd, just how much water are you willing to drink knowing you will need to pee after 8 to 12 ounces? And can you imagine the TV images of Hillary chewing on something in the crowd?
Her campaign should have let her stay for one hour max and then taken her out of the crowd.
I thought they were making sure she got enough rest but now I am not so sure.
Blue Idaho
(5,049 posts)it turns out non-fat milk may be one of the best re-hydrators.
http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/06/30/milk-and-other-surprising-ways-to-stay-hydrated/?_r=0
radius777
(3,635 posts)which many people are, milk products can create digestive issues, ie gas, bloating, diarrhea.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)She had the news of the WP, then plowed through a really big day on Friday.
I think this might have been a little slower day and they figured she would be OK for an extended time, but I will be honest, as I have aged standing takes more out of me than moving around a bit.
Should have kept her on a shorter leash for this event and got her somewhere where she could be in the AC and off her feet.
blm
(113,047 posts).
AngryAmish
(25,704 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)blm
(113,047 posts)Illness like pneumonia just makes it more likely. That and standing for long periods of time.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)blm
(113,047 posts)I was a Bernie voter, but, one thing I admired about BOTH of them is that they have shown how tough and resilient they are. I am younger than both, but, would have definitely suffered if I had to try and fulfill even 20% of their schedules.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)blm
(113,047 posts)see honest replies as a weakness worthy to be laughed at here?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)elleng
(130,865 posts)He told Charlie Rose today.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)She rarely gets dehydrated? Doesn't sound like a theme unless one was desperate to make it one.
elleng
(130,865 posts)That she's experienced 'fainting/wobbles,' I forget how characterized, in the past a few/several times.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)blm
(113,047 posts)ahead for these circumstances isn't controversial now, is it?
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)No one prepares for pneumonia.
blm
(113,047 posts)with proper hydration. Camps DO prepare every time you go to any event, and definitely when under the weather.
Demsrule86
(68,555 posts)news. I had walking pneumonia and fainted and was taken by ambulance to the hospital. You don't feel that badly until the collapse.
blm
(113,047 posts)The one time I fainted there was a pressing crowd. Firefighters who rolled me away to first aid tent suggested gatorade if I wanted to return. I stand by the position that campaign's body person should have electrolyte drink nearby during any and all events.
Sorry that bothers you. Perhaps moving on would be a good idea.
complain jane
(4,302 posts)The church had no a/c, and at the first "All Rise" I rose and then down I went.
Next thing I knew 2 people brought me outside, gave me a paper cup of water and I was fine.
Now it's 20 years later and I don't leave the house without a bottle of water in warm weather. If I know I will be outdoors much of the day prior to that day, I make sure to hydrate the day before.
And I'm a lazy fuck. I can't imagine the nutritional/rest/hydration needs of someone with Hillary's schedule.
I also can't imagine the level of privacy desired for a woman in her position. The scrutiny, the double standard, the right-wing hysteria that has dogged her all her life. And she keeps going.
Of course I'm with her.
MADem
(135,425 posts)remembering the dead!!!! EWWWW!!!"
She can't win with the haters, so screw them. It doesn't matter what she does, if SHE does it, it's the crime of the century, if the Conald does it, it's "Donald being Donald." He can call Mexicans rapists, and the media, making money off a faux horserace, says "Oh well." She calls those xenophobes that cheer him on "deplorable," and again--crime of the century.
It's utter bullshit and it has incited in me a determination to get as many butts to the polls as I possibly can.
A woman with pneumonia, standing for an hour and a half in soupy humid heat, is a tough cookie. How anyone can say she's not tough is beyond me.
blm
(113,047 posts)The double standard from media in elections is ALWAYS atrocious, and this year seems it is as bad as it was against Kerry. Corpmedia never advances any serious story against GOP, but, magnifies any minor story it can transform into a 'scandal' against Dems.