2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumThe Hill: Most people trash-talking Hillary would be in a coma after a week of her schedule.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/campaign/295446-attacks-on-hillary-clintons-health-reveals-double-standardThe diagnosis brought the trolls out in force, laying accusations and conspiracies about her health in a naked attempt to undermine public confidence in her readiness to take office. Its also the first time in recorded history Republicans have shown any sort of concern for womens health. Maybe itll catch on and we can finally stop the annual attempts to defund Planned Parenthood again. Who knows?
Heres the deal.
Most of the people talking trash about Clintons health would be in a coma after one week of a Presidential election campaign schedule. It is non-stop, with sixteen, eighteen, and twenty-hour days for more than a year. There is no break. There is no rest. You are traveling, cramming policy papers, attending security briefings, prepping for and staging mock debates (unless youre Donald Trump), giving speeches, and surrounded by press every waking moment. You cant make a mistake. You cant make an off-color comment (also doesnt apply to Trump). You never have a moments privacy. You are surrounded by advisors, pollsters, reporters, and bodyguards 24/7. It is exhausting. The levels of physical, mental, and emotional stress a Presidential candidate endures in their run for the office are hard for anyone outside of a campaign to even contemplate.
The truth is Clinton is a 68-year-old running around the country in a pantsuit at a pace that would leave most people half her age screaming for mercy in a matter of days. She got sick. Shes human.
And while pneumonia is a serious illness that deserves close attention and appropriate care, it is also a common disease and one that is easily treated. What this glorified chest-cold isnt and never was is any sort of tip off or alarm that Clinton is anything but a person whose body and immune system has been under months of constant stress. Its not a chronic condition, and its not a symptom of a more serious underlying illness or medical issue.
SNIP
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)This is about openness and transparency.
If someone - not a reporter, just a bystander with a smartphone - hadn't posted her stumbling at her vehicle - would we know she had been diagnosed with pneumonia?
No. We wouldn't, because we didn't.
Now, explain to me how this doesn't matter to her supporters. I'm a supporter, and it bothers the hell out of me.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)report every cold, too? Every sore throat? Where do you draw the line?
When has this standard been applied to other Presidential candidates EVER?
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)you are "secretive and hiding health issues" and then you are secretive and hide health issues,
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)He hasn't released a single reliable piece of information about his health -- certainly not that joke letter from the man who claims to be his physician.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Did Obama ignore him or produce a birth certificate?
You know, we can't measure everything by spinning it back on the other one.
Hillary needs to be open, transparent, trustworthy.
Then we can judge Trump.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)urinary tract infection, too? They're treated with antibiotics. If she gets a kidney stone, do we need to hear about that? What about sore throats?
No Presidential candidate or President has ever in the past been expected to provide the degree of "transparency" that you're requiring of Hillary.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)I agree.
I have never needed transparency from Hillary.
Why now?
You win.
Will she?
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)Seriously, I could understand being "concerned" if she'd been diagnosed with cancer or some other potentially deadly illness but geez Louise it's not like this is some illness that effects how she runs her campaign, or eventually, the country. I bet when she went to the 9/11 ceremony and started to feel unwell, she didn't expect it. I bet she was just as surprised as you or I were when we saw the video.
There's no logical or strategic reason for this to be a "thing" other than people who so desperately want it to be one. Let the woman have her pneumonia in peace for goodness sakes.
yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)but no way is it a game changer.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)but doctors prescribe them "just in case," to avoid any secondary infections.
I've felt much worse with UTI's, which definitely needed antibiotics, than with walking pneumonia. But they're both treatable and not life threatening. Why does she have to report walking pneumonia? What else does she have to report (that no other past candidate has ever reported)?
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)too but neglected to do so. What was she hiding? When did it start, when did it end? Did she have heat flashes, night sweats... Oh wait, she doesn't sweat.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)but amazingly I went to the doctor, they gave me antibiotics and an inhaler and lo and behold, I was just fine. I went to work and everything, though at the time I was certain I should have been put on short-term disability.
We don't live in the Middle Ages and Clinton has access to some of the best doctors around--better than mine were I'm sure since I only saw a physician's assistant. I'd be fairly shocked if her pneumonia became fatal or a game changer.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)extreme.
MelSC
(256 posts)...and can see why her having pneumonia wasn't leaked to the press.
BigDemVoter
(4,149 posts)HRC absolutely works her ASS off. She is already extremely capable and frighteningly intelligent, but she doesn't stop there. She works monstrously long hours, and her aides, some of whom are half her age, cannot keep up. HRC is amazing.
JCMach1
(27,556 posts)Sprawling district with events almost every day somewhere. It is a degree of magnitude worse at the Presidential level. I completely wore myself out as a 30 something. In the middle of it, I came down with the stomach flu. I tried to 'power' through it, got badly dehydrated and ended-up in the hospital for three days getting pumped full of fluids.
The day after leaving, I had a major party event which I attended despite looking like warmed-over fish. Also, the extra fluids had flared my hemorrhoids and I was bleeding like a stuck pig. I literally had to buy and use a panty liner to make sure I didn't bleed through my pants.
That's life in a political campaign as a politician.
Hillary, please take a few days and rest!