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BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 07:46 PM Sep 2016

I just met my FIRST Trump supporter in San Francisco. . . .

I am more than shocked. I feel somewhat queasy, as the person who announced her intentions does not seem like a stupid person. However, if she IS voting for Trump, she MUST be stupid, or crazy or ill. . . .

She actually said, "I just don't trust Hillary, and Trump seems like a strong leader." So yeah, she IS stupid (and maybe ill too?).

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I just met my FIRST Trump supporter in San Francisco. . . . (Original Post) BigDemVoter Sep 2016 OP
Oh, yeah. narnian60 Sep 2016 #1
Take a shower . Burn some sage. Person 2713 Sep 2016 #2
Is she a millenial radius777 Sep 2016 #3
No, in fact, which is very surprising. BigDemVoter Sep 2016 #4
Sounds alt-right, probably is anti-semitic radius777 Sep 2016 #5
hear ya, received this from a woman I do lunch with once a month with a group of women, we NEVER a kennedy Sep 2016 #6

radius777

(3,635 posts)
3. Is she a millenial
Mon Sep 12, 2016, 09:51 PM
Sep 2016

Remember that alot of them have bought into 24 years of anti-Clinton propaganda.

I also don't buy the idea that suddenly voters have become so concerned with 'trust'. I think that is just an excuse for their alt-right (sexist/racist/fascist) views, irrational anti-Clinton hatred, and also the alt-left types (Greens, Bernie-or-busters, etc) who also hate the Clintons.

BigDemVoter

(4,149 posts)
4. No, in fact, which is very surprising.
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 12:06 AM
Sep 2016

She must be over 60 but doesn't look it. I have known her a number of years and have never discussed politics with her but assumed she must be--at the very LEAST--politically moderate (liberal in other places). I was wrong. She expressed "extreme distrust" in bankers. . . . I found that an odd comment. She also commented on "bankers wanting to take over the world." I found that odd as well, although I did not mention that Trump wants to remove ANY regulations on banks.

I've been thinking about our conversation since I got home. Her comments about bankers somehow made me think of anti-semitic ideology. Am I being a jackass even seeing a possible connection? In any case, it truly doesn't matter; I rarely see this woman, and her vote for Trump will only be a thimble full in sea of blue.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
5. Sounds alt-right, probably is anti-semitic
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 12:44 AM
Sep 2016

and into NWO type conspiracies. IOW, a typical Trump supporter.

Alt-right is just a new name for fascism or national socialism, where the extremes of the far right and far left converge.

a kennedy

(29,647 posts)
6. hear ya, received this from a woman I do lunch with once a month with a group of women, we NEVER
Tue Sep 13, 2016, 08:59 AM
Sep 2016

politics, but I received this from her and am just dumbfounded. Ugh.....

Are you tearing your hair out over the election? THIS WILL CERTAINLY HELP YOU DECIDE!!!

This may be the best and most honest
political promotion statement you will ever read. It decidedly does
not brush objections aside. You hate Hillary? READ it. You
hate Trump? READ it. You think there's no choice? READ
it. And, read it with your grown-up hat on. We've all been dealt
huge responsibility with this election. The first step toward
accepting responsibility is accepting it, and the first step toward
accepting it is recognizing it. READ THIS. Read every single
word. It'll take you about three
minutes.
=============================

Are you sickened and despondent with
the current campaign and upcoming presidential election?
I
consider myself a conservative and do truly believe our country is at a
political/economic/moral/ social crossroads. I need to let you know I
could/would never vote for Hillary Clinton to lead this country. A
trustworthy, personal friend worked at the WhiteHouse during Bill Clinton's
administration.
The tales you have heard regarding
Hillary published or reported by right wing/conservative media are mild
little anecdotes compared to reality. She is a deceitful, manipulative, self
serving, mean spirited, callous, angry, power hungry woman with absolutely
no love of country or desire to see American traditions preserved and
continued.
My opinion is based on first hand,
direct knowledge....not upon rumors in the media. To me, she represents
everything that is wrong with our current political structure. On the
flip side, I look and listen to Donald Trump and I cringe at every rude,
insulting comment he makes.
If you find yourself in a similar
state of mind, please read the following article:
A Message For
Christians About Donald Trump
I am a Jew turned evangelical
Christian. I am also a passionate supporter of Donald Trump. I have a
message for Christians who don’t like Donald Trump: “YOU’RE MISSING THE
BOAT.”
Christians have Trump all wrong. God
sends messages in many forms. You’re just not listening. God is talking, but
your eyes and ears are closed.
Here’s a famous joke about God and how
he talks to us.
“A deeply faithful Christian man is stuck on roof at
home with massive flooding up to the 2nd floor. Rowboat comes. He says “No,
I’m waiting for God. I prayed and I know he’s coming.” 2nd Rowboat.
“No, I’m waiting for God.” 3rd Rowboat. “No, I’m waiting for
God.”
Water rises. The man drowns. Now he’s meeting God in heaven.
The religious man says, “Where were you God? I prayed. I was faithful. I
asked you to save me. Why would you abandon me?”
God says, “Hey
dummy, I sent you 3 rowboats. Are you blind?”
Did you ever consider Trump is our
rowboat?
Maybe God is trying to tell us something important--that now
is not the time for a “nice Christian guy” or a “gentleman” or a typical
Republican powder puff. Maybe now is the time for a natural born killer, a
ruthless fighter, a warrior. Because right about now we need a miracle, or
America is finished. Maybe the rules of gentlemen don’t apply here. Maybe a
gentleman and “all-around nice Christian” would lead us to
slaughter.
Or do you want another Mitt Romney, Bob Dole, John McCain,
Gerald Ford or Paul Ryan? Did any of them win? Did they lead the GOP to “the
promised land?” Did they change the direction of America? No, because if you
don’t win, you have no say.
Paul Ryan couldn’t even deliver his own
state, Wisconsin! And as leader of the House, Paul Ryan rolls over to Obama
like my dog rolls over for a scrap of food, or a steak bone. Nice, but
obedient. I mean Paul Ryan…not my dog. My dog is actually a pretty good
defender and loyal.
Maybe God is knocking on your door loudly, but
you’re not listening. Maybe God understands we need a "war leader" at this
moment in time. Maybe God understands if we don’t win this
election, America is dead. It’s over.
The greatest nation in world history will
be gone. Finished. Kaput. Adios.
And with one last
breath, maybe what we need to save us at the last second, is someone
different. Someone you haven’t ever experienced before-- because you weren’t
raised in rough and tumble New York where nothing good gets accomplished
unless you're combative, aggressive, outrageous, on offense at all times,
and maybe just a tad arrogant too.
Someone with a personality you’ve
never seen on stage at your church. Maybe, just maybe, being a nice
gentlemanly Christian would not beat Hillary and her billion dollars, and
her best friends in the media who will unleash the dogs of hell upon the
GOP nominee.
I guess you think God is only nice and gentlemanly.
Really? Then you’ve missed the whole point of the Bible. When necessary, God
is a pretty tough guy. When necessary, God strikes with pain, death and
destruction. When necessary, God inflicts
vengeance.
Maybe you think God couldn't possibly
be associated with someone like Trump. Trump is too vicious, rude and crude.
When we won WWII, was God "nice?" Were we gentlemanly when defeating Hitler?
Were we gentlemanly when firebombing Germany? Were we gentlemanly when
dropping atomic bombs on Japan? Is God ever "nice" on the battlefield? Or
does he send us vicious SOB’s like General George S. Patton so the good guys
can defeat evil? It’s pretty clear to me God sends unique people to be "war
leaders." That’s a different role than a pastor or church leader. God
understands that.
Maybe God purposely sent Trump instead of the nice
Republican powder puffs like Paul Ryan, or Mitt Romney, or John Kasich
because he wants us to win.
And maybe it’s time to re-define
“nice.” Maybe Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan aren’t nice at all--because they led
us to defeat. And losing again would mean the end of America. And God can’t
allow that. Maybe Romney and Ryan mean well, but the road to hell is paved
with good intentions. Or maybe they’re just jealous they had their chance
and blew it. Maybe they’d rather help elect Hillary than allow a Trump
victory that would make them look weak, feckless and incompetent.
I
was reading the Bible this morning and I found the perfect verse that
explains the success of Donald Trump…
"Even the youths
shall faint and be weary, And the young men shall
utterly fall, But those who wait on
the Lord Shall renew their strength;
They shall mount up with wings like
eagles, They shall run and not be weary,
They shall walk and not faint." (Isiah
40:30-31)

It’s almost like God created this verse
for Donald Trump and this moment in history.
Trump is our energy.
More energy than any candidate EVER. He took on the 16 best candidates in
GOP history...all younger than him...all with better political
credentials...and destroyed them with his energy. You mean that kind of
energy in a 70-year old isn't inspired by God?
Trump renews our
strength. Or does the all-time record turnout and all-time record votes for
a GOP presidential primary candidate not define “strength?"
With
Trump we mount up with wings like eagles. With Trump as our leader there is
nothing we can’t do. Any man that can build skyscrapers in Manhattan and
vanquish 16 presidential opponents, while spending almost nothing…can lead
us to the heights of eagles.
With Trump we run, we are not weary.
Just when we get tired of the fight against Obama, Hillary, big government,
big business, big media, big unions...just when it all seems impossible to
overcome the powerful forces of evil... along comes Trump to re-energize
us.
Trump inspires us. Trump gives us hope. Trump gives us confidence
in victory. Trump gives us just a touch of arrogance. Maybe God understands
that’s exactly what we need right at this late stage to save
America.
God is about miracles. We don’t need a
“nice guy” or a “gentleman” right now. It’s the 4th quarter and we’re losing
14-0. We need a miracle.
So let me repeat my message to Christians:
“YOU’RE MISSING THE BOAT.”
I believe Trump is our miracle. I believe
Trump is our rowboat. Except he’s more like a battleship!
No one is
saying Trump is perfect. No one is saying Trump is a perfect conservative.
But he is a patriot. He is a warrior. He is a capitalist. He is the right
man, at the right time. Yes, he's a bit rude and crude and offensive.
But that may make him the perfect warrior to save America, American
exceptionalism, capitalism and Judeo-Christian values. The
choice should be easy for Christians.
It’s Trump…or it’s the end of the American
dream.
If anything in this article strikes a
positive chord with you, please pass it on to others you think might be
having the same political qualms. It's a bit over the top, but it just
could be that we aremissing the
boat!

Sorry it's long and so choppy, but you get her drift.......




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