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piechartking

(617 posts)
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 10:33 AM Sep 2016

OH Polls YouGov HRC +7; Bloomberg Trump +5. Which is right? It's up to you...

Turnout model for YouGov has +Dems advantage.
Turnout model for Bloomberg has +Repubs advantage (similar to 2004)

So which one is right? Depends on us to GOTV!

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democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
3. The Bloomberg poll is more recent
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 10:35 AM
Sep 2016

I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but the YouGov poll was conducted prior to the almost fainting incident Sunday. Not clear yet what effect, if any, that will have on polls. LA Times tracking poll is not great but may still be useful for trends, and it shows Trump gaining nationally.

We'll have a better idea when the next YouGov poll comes out.

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
4. Ohio Gov. John Kasich warns it will be ‘really, really difficult’ for Trump to win the key swing sta
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 10:36 AM
Sep 2016

Ohio Gov. John Kasich warns it will be ‘really, really difficult’ for Trump to win the key swing state

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/kasich-warns-difficult-trump-win-ohio-article-1.2741739

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
5. Well just my opinion when a poll using 83% white electorate as a standard
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 10:51 AM
Sep 2016

wherein Ohio's white electorate is 77 - 78%, and factor in a very low % of POC and young, and that T-rump would beat Pres O in OH, et al.,

I'm pretty sure HRC will win OH.

LenaBaby61

(6,972 posts)
7. Well just my opinion when a poll using 83% white electorate are a standard.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 11:19 AM
Sep 2016

Agreed.

That's why I'm not giving too much weight to some of these pro-white polls where there's a majority white electoral model used. The SurveyMonkey poll is an on-line poll that I also give nothing more than a look-see to when I see it. The recent CNN poll used a flawed methodology to give tRump that +2 point lead he had about a week ago. Some polls use only land lines and no cell phones in their polling, and some didn't even use the demographic model of 18-34 year olds (Millennials) in their polling, and they over sampled white voters with NO college degree who go very big or tRump (CNN). And we know many polls lean right more so than left.

The Horse Race meme is STILL very much in effect as we know

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
10. YouGov turnout model is closer to what turnout was in 2012. Bloomberg oversamples Republicans.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 11:52 AM
Sep 2016

We should behave as if the worst polls are right and GOTV, but if we are discussing which is more correct IMHO there is no question that the YouGov has a more realistic sample.

 

Fast Walker 52

(7,723 posts)
12. even if Trump has a lead, what campaign is actually organized to get out their vote?
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 12:21 PM
Sep 2016

Seems like Hillary has a huge advantage there.

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