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Where is Bernie Sanders? (Original Post) kstewart33 Sep 2016 OP
He was in the news a day or two ago left-of-center2012 Sep 2016 #1
That was a Labor Day- last two weeks, nothing. He tweets about other stuff all bettyellen Sep 2016 #2
Labor Day was last week left-of-center2012 Sep 2016 #6
So- once since the convention. Does that sound like "everything he can"? Seriously? bettyellen Sep 2016 #18
Also, the votes that recent polls show that she's losing to Gary Johnson (not Jill Stein) politicaljunkie41910 Sep 2016 #81
Well he would have split the angry man vote with Trump and bettyellen Sep 2016 #82
That was on Labor Day I think. Sanders spoke at the Pipeline DC protest yesterday. riversedge Sep 2016 #4
Good. Thanks for the info. kstewart33 Sep 2016 #8
He was protesting the Dakota Pipeline liberal N proud Sep 2016 #79
He is extremely quiet molova Sep 2016 #3
Neither do you alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #15
Main stream media hardly ever mentioned Sanders right from the day he announced his Cal33 Sep 2016 #44
Here we go NWCorona Sep 2016 #5
Are we allowed to attack Democrats now? left-of-center2012 Sep 2016 #7
Well...is Bernie still a D - or is he back to being an I? jonno99 Sep 2016 #10
Back to being an "I". tonyt53 Sep 2016 #17
That is correct. yallerdawg Sep 2016 #11
And he was back to calling himself an Indy one day after calling for party "unity". bettyellen Sep 2016 #22
Why is asking where he is campaigning an attack? pnwmom Sep 2016 #16
It isn't. emulatorloo Sep 2016 #51
I think some are "laying a foundation" TransitJohn Sep 2016 #58
Or maybe some people have heard the endless attacks on Clinton and remember R B Garr Sep 2016 #71
Sort of like how the endless attacks on Obama TransitJohn Sep 2016 #72
That isn't even true. But it's yet another example of the lack of accountability R B Garr Sep 2016 #73
Got it. TransitJohn Sep 2016 #75
Bernie is not a Democrat. Lil Missy Sep 2016 #63
Then you won't want him to sit with them in Congress? n/t left-of-center2012 Sep 2016 #69
That wasn't the issue addressed and has nothing to do with my response. Bernie is not a Democrat. Lil Missy Sep 2016 #70
It's better for the Hillary camp to use only enthusiastic supporters. oasis Sep 2016 #9
He gave her a pretty enthusiastic endorsement at the DNC democrattotheend Sep 2016 #20
Apparently, it's not up to the expectations by Hill's campaign oasis Sep 2016 #24
I am thinking they are concerned about heckling/booing democrattotheend Sep 2016 #27
Except the "not insignificant chunk" are the same ones who burned him in effigy after he endorsed. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #48
Apparently it's not up to the expectation of some DUers. Beartracks Sep 2016 #52
I haven't heard the GOP repeat that line he said about Hillary at the convention. Have you? R B Garr Sep 2016 #34
The campaign may be planning to use him more in October? Maru Kitteh Sep 2016 #12
At NY Working Families Party gala tomorrow night, then campaigning in PA for Hillary & McGinty democrattotheend Sep 2016 #13
Good to know that he will be in PA. Thanks! nt kstewart33 Sep 2016 #19
That's good to hear. bettyellen Sep 2016 #23
He keeps sending out emails about OurRevolution. That's all I've seen or heard of him. randome Sep 2016 #14
I've only seen tweets about the TPP, the pipeline and something about bettyellen Sep 2016 #21
"Send more money," in other words. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #42
He was fighting for support of the indians and the pipeline yesterday or Monday. nt napi21 Sep 2016 #25
Here: elleng Sep 2016 #26
Post removed Post removed Sep 2016 #28
I agree comradebillyboy Sep 2016 #29
I think he did broad brush all democrats, as well as respected institutions like Planned Parenthood bettyellen Sep 2016 #30
+1000. Totally agree. She was not able to answer any of the attacks so as R B Garr Sep 2016 #36
Clearly... bonemachine Sep 2016 #37
There Were Four - Only One otohara Sep 2016 #45
I agree . Kathy M Sep 2016 #40
I agree with this Nonhlanhla Sep 2016 #43
+1. His insisting that he had a chance when it was clear that he didn't, creating the implication lunamagica Sep 2016 #46
Exactly, also Jeff Weaver is jerk radius777 Sep 2016 #59
I agree bravenak Sep 2016 #47
Sorry I missed what you agreed with brave :-) Maru Kitteh Sep 2016 #61
Oh it was! bravenak Sep 2016 #62
what a crock of shit Kali Sep 2016 #55
Silly Egnever Sep 2016 #56
Post removed Post removed Sep 2016 #57
Don't get me started. Had he won, Hillary would have been out campaigning her heart out for him... grossproffit Sep 2016 #31
+1 Cattledog Sep 2016 #33
I'm not so sure about that democrattotheend Sep 2016 #35
It would be in her interest to not have Trump as President. NCTraveler Sep 2016 #39
No, they're trained to assume the worst about her. Which quite honestly is bullshit. emulatorloo Sep 2016 #53
Of course she would be campaigning BlueMTexpat Sep 2016 #64
So by your own standards, it's not in Bernie's interest to campaign for her since R B Garr Sep 2016 #68
The primaries are over - Let's focus on Trump left-of-center2012 Sep 2016 #32
This is a legit question uponit7771 Sep 2016 #50
I think it's important he has been quiet. NCTraveler Sep 2016 #38
Yes agreed, and he will be there. emulatorloo Sep 2016 #54
And you believed that? BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #41
How many weeks has it been since the convention? tia uponit7771 Sep 2016 #49
7 weeks BlueStateLib Sep 2016 #65
Thx... hmmmmmm... the OP raises a fair question uponit7771 Sep 2016 #66
One of the reasons Obama got high-hatted in Asia by the president of Philippines and others ucrdem Sep 2016 #60
Senate reconvened on September 6 and is expected to adjourn around Oct 7 for five weeks of Donkees Sep 2016 #67
Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are barnstorming Ohio this weekend for Clinton-Kaine. 5 events riderinthestorm Sep 2016 #74
Oh my Uponthegears Sep 2016 #77
bernie can't win it for hillary, she needs to sell her self and win it.. Bernie has been working h juxtaposed Sep 2016 #76
Pray, tell BlueInPhilly Sep 2016 #80
He is heading to Ohio Motley13 Sep 2016 #78
Following the Clintons campaigns lead perhaps ? CentralMass Sep 2016 #83

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
1. He was in the news a day or two ago
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 03:18 PM
Sep 2016

No video that I saw, but cable news said he was speaking to a rally in New Hampshire.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
2. That was a Labor Day- last two weeks, nothing. He tweets about other stuff all
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 03:20 PM
Sep 2016

Day long but not a peep about the presidential election.
Never was much of a team player.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
18. So- once since the convention. Does that sound like "everything he can"? Seriously?
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 03:57 PM
Sep 2016

He is tweeting his ass off about everything BUT the election. Hope he gets his ass in gear soon, but don't see him on the schedule of events at all.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
81. Also, the votes that recent polls show that she's losing to Gary Johnson (not Jill Stein)
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 06:01 PM
Sep 2016

are mainly coming from younger voters who would have been Bernie supporters. I guess they're still pouting. They don't realize that if she doesn't get into office, they won't get anything at all either. Trump is not running on a platform that will make college free or affordable; and whatever promises he's making most don't jive with Paul Ryan and the GOP's platform of limited government. So they are just cutting off their own noses to spite their face. Perhaps they will learn that lesson further down the road. Change comes in small bites, not big gulps.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
82. Well he would have split the angry man vote with Trump and
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 06:31 PM
Sep 2016

That's interesting. Wish he had adjusted course and been clearer w supporters when he saw how nasty and anti Dem it was all getting. But I guess he thought he could exploit that, or maybe it's really where his head is at. He should be having regrets now and keeping promises. God knows everyone would be hanging HRC by the ankles if she didn't live up to her promises. And by that I mean one appearance in a month- is very far from everything.
I need to take him off my Twitter feed lol.

kstewart33

(6,551 posts)
8. Good. Thanks for the info.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 03:27 PM
Sep 2016

Hillary's margin is narrowing there so hopefully he'll bring some votes to our side.

 

Cal33

(7,018 posts)
44. Main stream media hardly ever mentioned Sanders right from the day he announced his
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 07:02 PM
Sep 2016

candidacy for the presidency. Why would they begin now?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
22. And he was back to calling himself an Indy one day after calling for party "unity".
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:07 PM
Sep 2016

People would be falling all over themselves in gratitude if or when he speaks out on HRC's behalf. But one appearance in six week is not "everything" he can do.
Hopefully he will get it in gear.

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
58. I think some are "laying a foundation"
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:30 AM
Sep 2016

of excuses and talking points in case the unthinkable happens. You can bet your ass that blame will be piled at Bernie's feet.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
73. That isn't even true. But it's yet another example of the lack of accountability
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 09:52 AM
Sep 2016

that permeated this last primary. Many people noticed, believe me.

edit: And Clinton campaigned heavily for Obama. Remember?

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
20. He gave her a pretty enthusiastic endorsement at the DNC
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:00 PM
Sep 2016

"I've known Hillary Clinton for 25 years. She will make a terrific president, and I am proud to stand with her tonight." How is that not an enthusiastic endorsement?

oasis

(49,365 posts)
24. Apparently, it's not up to the expectations by Hill's campaign
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:16 PM
Sep 2016

otherwise they would be featuring him more.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
27. I am thinking they are concerned about heckling/booing
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:36 PM
Sep 2016

It may not be about what Bernie would say as much as about concern that he will draw people like the ones who acted up at the convention.

You make a good point though - Bernie's lack of high profile appearances so far might be the Hillary campaign's choice, not his. If so they are making a mistake. Polls show that while most of his supporters are on board with Hillary, a not insignificant chunk are not, and those who are are not enthusiastic enough yet and may not turn out in the numbers she is hoping for.

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
48. Except the "not insignificant chunk" are the same ones who burned him in effigy after he endorsed.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 08:44 PM
Sep 2016

In other words, even he would not convince them. Because they were ultimately not in it for his cause, but their own, whatever that may be or have been.

Such folks should just be left to go off on their own, because they're not the kind of allies we need or want. A few cycles of squandering their votes on Jill Stein or whatever new narcissist anti-vax Russia-lover picks up the Green Party baton and they might mature enough to be relevant again.

Beartracks

(12,806 posts)
52. Apparently it's not up to the expectation of some DUers.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:00 AM
Sep 2016

But since the primary is long past, I'm not sure why people seem to be looking for reasons to bash Bernie.

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R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
34. I haven't heard the GOP repeat that line he said about Hillary at the convention. Have you?
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 06:23 PM
Sep 2016

Mostly they use all the attacks he repeated for months. They seem to really like those. But asking him to keep his word about campaigning sure isn't an attack.

Maru Kitteh

(28,333 posts)
12. The campaign may be planning to use him more in October?
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 03:34 PM
Sep 2016

I think Bernie all over the country through the whole season would have resulted in a loss of effect; a fatigue. I'll be very happy to see him do a burst of appearances in October, if that is the plan. I think that would have the most impact.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
13. At NY Working Families Party gala tomorrow night, then campaigning in PA for Hillary & McGinty
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 03:37 PM
Sep 2016

I think the PA appearance is on Friday.

I am hoping to get enough done today that I can go to the gala tomorrow night. Not looking likely at this point.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
14. He keeps sending out emails about OurRevolution. That's all I've seen or heard of him.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 03:39 PM
Sep 2016

[hr][font color="blue"][center]“If you're not committed to anything, you're just taking up space.”
Gregory Peck, Mirage (1965)
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bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
21. I've only seen tweets about the TPP, the pipeline and something about
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:00 PM
Sep 2016

Working moms and childcare- but no mention in Hillary there. Which sort of seemed like a weird omission.

Response to kstewart33 (Original post)

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
30. I think he did broad brush all democrats, as well as respected institutions like Planned Parenthood
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:49 PM
Sep 2016

And that was pretty shitty. I'm on the fence as to whether he's actually able to be a valuable surrogate.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
36. +1000. Totally agree. She was not able to answer any of the attacks so as
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 06:27 PM
Sep 2016

not to alienate voters. You are totally right about the effect on her from all the attacks.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
45. There Were Four - Only One
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 07:46 PM
Sep 2016

managed to poison a generation against the Democratic party and thought about making a run against our amazing president in 2012.

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
40. I agree .
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 06:49 PM
Sep 2016

Voted early ( Ohio ) for Sanders knowing I was going to vote for Hillary in Nov . Shortly after voting I wanted to take my vote back , I was pissed at Sanders the way primary turned into .

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
43. I agree with this
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 07:00 PM
Sep 2016

The problem was not really the fact that he ran against her, but the way he did it. He really damaged her a lot.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
46. +1. His insisting that he had a chance when it was clear that he didn't, creating the implication
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 07:56 PM
Sep 2016

that she cheated. I still hear millennials outraged because Hillary "stole the election"

radius777

(3,635 posts)
59. Exactly, also Jeff Weaver is jerk
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:32 AM
Sep 2016

who pushed most of these ideas.

Team Sanders chances were virtually impossible after March 15th to beat Hillary in pledged delegates, and at that point should've graciously dropped out and endorsed her, yet he continued on, forcing her to spend money, not get enough rest, he launched harsh new attacks ("wall street speeches", "rigged", "superdelegates", "DWS", etc).

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
56. Silly
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:22 AM
Sep 2016

The week she entered the race she was at 50% unfavorable. Today she is at 53. The thing about Clinton is pretty much everyone has already made their mind up about her and had years before this election. Her numbers are pretty stable and have been throughout the campaign and in fact for years before this campaign.

That is both a blessing and a curse for her. She doesn't really sink below a certain point but she can't make any significant gains either.

Compare her favorability chart to Bernies and you will see exactly what I am talking about. When you look at Bernies chart it is a constant upward slope as people got to know him both possitive and negative. Clintons by comparison is practically flat.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/bernie-sanders-favorable-rating

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating

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grossproffit

(5,591 posts)
31. Don't get me started. Had he won, Hillary would have been out campaigning her heart out for him...
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 04:52 PM
Sep 2016

just like she did for Obama.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
35. I'm not so sure about that
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 06:26 PM
Sep 2016

In 2008 it was in her interest to campaign for Obama because she wanted to run again. I doubt she'd run a third time if she had lost this time.

Bernie campaigned for her last week in New Hampshire and will do so in Pittsburgh on Friday. Have you considered that it might be Clinton's decision and not his not to do additional joint appearances thus far?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
39. It would be in her interest to not have Trump as President.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 06:34 PM
Sep 2016

"In 2008 it was in her interest to campaign for Obama because she wanted to run again."

I really don't think people get the passion in her heart.

emulatorloo

(44,096 posts)
53. No, they're trained to assume the worst about her. Which quite honestly is bullshit.
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 01:00 AM
Sep 2016

Sanders primary supporter here, I honestly don't understand the compulsion to constantly smear her.

BlueMTexpat

(15,365 posts)
64. Of course she would be campaigning
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 04:22 AM
Sep 2016

her heart out for Bernie had he won the Dem nomination. That she did so for Barack Obama in 2008, was NOT because she was thinking of running again but because she has always been a good team player.

In fact, insofar as her running again after 2008 goes, I happen to know firsthand that as early as 2014, the Ready for Hillary PAC - which she had NO hand in organizing - was literally begging her to run in 2016. She was quite reluctant to do so. She knew from past experience what an uphill battle it would be because of rampant CDS, etc. and her misgivings have been borne out in spades. She was not sure that she wanted to put herself out there again - and, among other things, expose Chelsea and her young family to all the crap.

Thankfully, she did finally accede to the requests and pressure from many and - until this bout of enforced R&R because of pneumonia - has campaigned literally non-stop from the day she announced her run.

You may be correct about mutual decisions not to do lots of joint appearances so far and I note, with you, that Bernie has hardly been absent from the campaign trail on her behalf. But the differences between Hillary's enthusiastic campaigning for Prez O in 2008 and Bernie's comparatively tepid campaigning for Hillary in 2016 have so far been notable. As a start, Hillary conceded her primary defeat MUCH earlier (even though she lost the nomination by a much smaller margin) and appeared on the campaign trail with then-presumptive nominee Obama as early as June 2008, long before the Dem Convention. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/2164891/US-Election-2008-Hillary-Clinton-to-join-Barack-Obama-on-campaign-trail-in-White-House-race.html

Like others here, I believe that Bernie will wholeheartedly pitch in with everyone else on Hillary's behalf, likely in October when it may have more effect. And I look forward to that.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
68. So by your own standards, it's not in Bernie's interest to campaign for her since
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 08:41 AM
Sep 2016

he's not going to run again? Or is this just another unilateral smear about Clinton. You indicate self-interest was the main goal for Clinton, so I'm assuming that goes for Bernie, too. Maybe that's why he has not been as visible. Right?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
38. I think it's important he has been quiet.
Wed Sep 14, 2016, 06:32 PM
Sep 2016

His supporters were extremely passionate. They weren't Luke warm to much of anything. Those emotions didn't just go away. I think Sanders staying low helped to calm and unite quickly. I think it was the best strategy. Moving foward? I don't know. I'm sure he will be at an even here and there.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
60. One of the reasons Obama got high-hatted in Asia by the president of Philippines and others
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 02:04 AM
Sep 2016

is that they see him as being unable to get the TPP passed despite years of serious effort and popular support for a new trade deal. Hillary's backing away from it didn't help but she did what she had to do. Pretty sorry episode all around.

Donkees

(31,365 posts)
67. Senate reconvened on September 6 and is expected to adjourn around Oct 7 for five weeks of
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 08:34 AM
Sep 2016

pre-election campaigning. He was asked to campaign in NH and did three events there on Sept 5, Labor Day. He'll be doing some smaller events next and then is expected to campaign in Ohio.

 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
74. Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are barnstorming Ohio this weekend for Clinton-Kaine. 5 events
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 11:37 AM
Sep 2016

5 events scheduled.

www.democraticunderground.com/12512418654

 

juxtaposed

(2,778 posts)
76. bernie can't win it for hillary, she needs to sell her self and win it.. Bernie has been working h
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 05:39 PM
Sep 2016

ard for her.

BlueInPhilly

(870 posts)
80. Pray, tell
Thu Sep 15, 2016, 05:59 PM
Sep 2016

How is she supposed to do that when the media is clearly more focused on sensationalizing anything that Trump says or does?

Remember that post DNC bounce? Because everyone saw the real HRC. No competing noise from the blowhard. Unless the coverage is at parity, or even more for HRC since she's been shortchanged since the convention, nothing will change.

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