2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumCBS POLL: HRC leads by 2, not performing as well as Obama with under 30's
A new CBS News/New York Times poll shows Hillary Clinton barely ahead of Donald Trump among likely voters, 46% to 44%.
In a four-way match Clinton and Trump are tied, 42% to 42%, with Gary Johnson at 8% and Jill Stein at 4%.
Key takeaway: Clinton is ahead of Trump among voters under 30 but she is not getting the level of support Barack Obama received in 2012. 48% of young voters are currently backing her, while Obama won 60% of the young vote in 2012. Only 29% of young voters are supporting Trump, but 21% say theyll vote for someone else or wont vote.
https://politicalwire.com/2016/09/15/clinton-barely-ahead-in-latest-national-poll/
Other key points:
Among the broader electorate registered voters nationwide Clinton leads Trump by five points, 46 percent to 41 percent.
Among Democratic voters, the percentage that is at least somewhat enthusiastic has dropped from 77 percent in August to 64 percent today, while the percentage of Democrats who are very enthusiastic has dropped nine points from 47 percent to 38 percent.
More specifically, Trump supporters are more excited about voting than Clintons supporters are. Forty-five percent of Trump voters say they are very enthusiastic about voting, compared to 36 percent of Clinton backers who feel that way.
Women back Clinton 52-39
Men back Trump 50-39
black votes back Clinton 89-6
White college grads favor Clinton 51-40
White non-coll grads favor Trump 58-32
This poll was conducted by telephone September 9-13, 2016 among a random sample of 1,753 adults nationwide, including 1,433 registered voters.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-and-hillary-clinton-locked-in-tight-race-nationally-cbsnyt-poll/
remaineruk
(156 posts)Hi
We had an awful turn out of under 25's for the Brexit vote with only around 25% voting as many believed it would go their way without voting. Some apathetic also. But here's the thing if they had voted 75% would have voted to stay in!
I would urge you to go on the social networking sites they are on (not twitter as 80% plus on there have decided) but Reddit, Gaming sites, fashion sites and convince them that Every Vote Counts
That generation aren't watching TV or listening to radio ads - they are plugged in and not to facebook necessarily. Trump/Putin will have his trolls out there they will be making threads and arguing his case. People do lurk. Use your powers of persuasion.
Brexit was bad. Trump would be a disaster
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)book_worm
(15,951 posts)and maybe campaign with Bernie at some of them as well and have her surrogates particularly the president and First Lady also do reach out. Without a doubt if Clinton were getting the kind of enthusiasm and voter support Obama did among under 30's she would have this election without any problem. It's been a problem for her even in the primaries and everybody just assumed, 'oh, they'll come around once she's nominated' and many have, but many still haven't.
BTW, welcome to DU
remaineruk
(156 posts)This fight isn't over
Here people were literally making their mind up as they went into the voting booth. BUT our MSM was disgusting spreading lies and bile everywhere
The young are out there - they are ready to be persuaded. Our forums were taken over by pro leavers who went away with a puff of smoke as soon as the vote was over
If DU can maybe it should organise itself into getting on the social media sites and spreading the truth - fight the lies with the truth. It can work (our Remain campaign just never did it so all those 3 second sound bites stuck in peoples head.
If the young see how important this is for them. That their LGBT friends will be in danger, their black friends, their Hispanic friends and their personal freedoms - maybe that will GOTV. Every Vote Counts - even in safe states
Thanks for the welcome!
yellowcanine
(35,699 posts)It has got to help a little.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)Response to book_worm (Reply #5)
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democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)And one in PA on Friday.
RAFisher
(466 posts)He caucuses with the democrats. He's helped the DSCC in the past. The Vermont Democratic party endorsed him.
Thrill
(19,178 posts)when you kept claiming Hillary was a bad candidate. But man, this is really a concern how you can be running this close or be down like in some polls against one of the worst Republican candidates Ive ever seen. A guy who says some of the worst things in history. just unreal.
Its the ridiculous drop in support that is mind boggling. Scary.
vdogg
(1,384 posts)She's just had bad press. I don't care how good of a politician you are, if the press constantly focuses on your negatives while giving your opponent a pass you're going to be in trouble. They need to focus more on controlling the news cycle. Her going to college campuses isn't going to do any good, send Obama to do that. The kids might not like her but they'll damn sure follow him one more time. He is also a better person to make the point that pouting about Bernie and throwing the election is not the way to achieve their goals.
Cosmocat
(14,564 posts)she isn't Obama, but she is a solid campaigner, worse have won the white house.
The issue is the normal negative frame for Ds and propping up Rs, and because she has three decades of slander against her she is "brittle" as a politicial figure, her support can drop really quickly.
But, again, it is much, MUCH more about the media being absolutely whores to the republicans generally and more specifically Hillary.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)I look at it as her nadir and not her peak.
otohara
(24,135 posts)all the Hillary hate that was passed around as facts during the primary on Facebook etc.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Stein won't break 1%. She'll be lucky to break .5%