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MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:12 AM Sep 2016

When Barack, Bernie and Elizabeth all tell you to make

sure Donald Trump never gets into the White House as President, they're telling you to vote for Hillary Clinton. They're not suggesting that you vote for any third party candidate or skip the election because you don't particularly care for Clinton. They're not saying that in any way. If you listen to them closely, they're telling you that you need to vote for the Democratic Nominee.

Barack Obama can't run for President, Bernie Sander came in second in the primaries, and Elizabeth Warren did not seek the office. I guarantee than none of them are considering a vote for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson. They're smarter than that. They're telling everyone to vote smart, not just vote out of frustration and an excess of pique. We should all be as smart as they are.

Trump must lose. That's what they're telling you. For Trump to lose, Hillary must win, since none of the other options have any chance of success. For Hillary to win and defeat Trump, she needs your vote. More than that, she needs your support as you talk about the election with others. She could use your help as a volunteer in the GOTV process, too, but not everyone can do that.

People we respect and trust are telling us what is the best, most effective thing to do. We should listen to those people. We should follow their lead. We should vote for Hillary Clinton and encourage others to do the same. That's how we win and that's how we block a despicable liar and greed-monger from being elected.

That's my opinion, for what it's worth. Thanks for reading.

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When Barack, Bernie and Elizabeth all tell you to make (Original Post) MineralMan Sep 2016 OP
Bravo! radical noodle Sep 2016 #1
You're too kind. MineralMan Sep 2016 #3
Your posts are always thoughtful and well-written radical noodle Sep 2016 #8
They are of course specifically saying to vote for Hillary. They say it. No implications AT ALL. RBInMaine Sep 2016 #2
Some people appear to be missing that, somehow. MineralMan Sep 2016 #4
Voting machines can only tabulate whom you vote FOR. . . DinahMoeHum Sep 2016 #5
Exactly right. They also can't tabulate votes MineralMan Sep 2016 #6
It is more important to have your own choice. nolabels Sep 2016 #7
Absolutely. I think many people will make up their minds MineralMan Sep 2016 #11
FLOTUS explained it too. PBO won in 2012 by 6 votes in each precinct ffr Sep 2016 #9
Absolutely right. Every vote does count, and MineralMan Sep 2016 #10
He won in Florida with 2 votes per precinct! csziggy Sep 2016 #12
Barack? nt MadDAsHell Sep 2016 #13

DinahMoeHum

(21,783 posts)
5. Voting machines can only tabulate whom you vote FOR. . .
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:21 AM
Sep 2016

. . .NOT whom you vote against.

Voting third-party or write-in does nothing except split the votes and take away those votes that should go to Clinton.

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
6. Exactly right. They also can't tabulate votes
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:23 AM
Sep 2016

from people who don't show up for the election. The only effective vote against Trump is an actual, real vote for Hillary Clinton.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
7. It is more important to have your own choice.
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 10:33 AM
Sep 2016

Nobody will be in that booth with you. It's also possible to block out most of the messages that others give you about people or other things. That being the case for me, then voting for Hillary is quite the easy choice.

Do the math, did you see and hear it from her or was it what someone else told you, and finally, is that how it's supposed to work?

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
11. Absolutely. I think many people will make up their minds
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 01:14 PM
Sep 2016

in the polling booth. More people than anyone thinks will mark their ballot for Hillary, and say nothing about it to others. Some will be women who are registered as Republicans and are sick of listening to the garbage coming out of Trump's mouth. Some will be people who say right now that they're going to vote for Stein or Johnson, but who will realize that to be a waste of their vote.

When all the votes are counted, we will have elected Hillary Clinton to be our President, leaving Trump to lick his wounds. That's my prediction.

ffr

(22,669 posts)
9. FLOTUS explained it too. PBO won in 2012 by 6 votes in each precinct
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 12:05 PM
Sep 2016

in some key swing states. 6 freakin votes! In some others, it was 12 votes per precinct.

EVERY VOTE MATTERS IN EVERY STATE!

MineralMan

(146,286 posts)
10. Absolutely right. Every vote does count, and
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 12:45 PM
Sep 2016

every vote makes a difference. Within precincts, single digit numbers of votes can make all the difference.

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
12. He won in Florida with 2 votes per precinct!
Sun Sep 18, 2016, 01:32 PM
Sep 2016

That is part of what we have been using to register people to vote and to motivate our volunteers. Often they are discouraged because they can only register one or two people each time they go out. Those one or two new voters could make the difference.

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