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Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:29 AM Sep 2016

Concise advice for Hillary's campaign from a Bernie supporter.

It's crunch time, 'tough love' to follow.

Focus your efforts on:
1. Getting Hispanics and married women to vote FOR Hillary
2. Getting millennials to show up and vote AGAINST Trump.

Waste no time on:
1. Courting white male independents.
2. Trying to get millennials to love you.

Keys to success:
1. Establish yourself as a stable, steady center-left leader on traditional media (+1 with Hispanics, -1 with millennials)
2. Decimate Trump's racism, bigotry and general idiocy on social media (+2 millennials)

Paths to failure:
1. Woo millennials with policy positions via traditional media (+0 millennials)
2. Tack to center-right to appeal to independent white males (+0 white males, -1 Hispanics, -2 millennials)

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Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
3. Millennials are looking for a transformative politician.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 10:51 AM
Sep 2016

Someone to really "shake things up".

Hillary Clinton is not that candidate and any attempts to pretend to be that candidate wil only ring hollow, strengthening Trump.

Clinton needs to stay true to a center-left course, which is believable for her, while highlighting Trump's negatives on social media.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
5. I voted against Bush...twice.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:13 AM
Sep 2016

I'm sorry, but I just don't think Hillary can truly appeal to millennials without jeopardizing support from the rest of her base. She can't be both Hillary Clinton -and- Bernie Sanders.

Hillary Clinton and *not* Donald Trump is more than adequate.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
7. problem is that a lot of them are voting for Gary Johnson because he's the new cool choice
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:42 AM
Sep 2016

Because pot and he's dorky. And in a lot of cases because he's a man.



zenabby

(364 posts)
12. Based on what I'm reading..
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:26 PM
Sep 2016

there may be a good chance that both Gary Johnson and Jill Stein will drop out before the election if it is close. Jill Stein who was talking against Hillary earlier, now is all against Trump, even saying he has memory problems on the social media.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
14. No, Stein is still insisting that Clinton is worse than Trump, she's
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:46 PM
Sep 2016

an irredeemable asshole.

Johnson agrees more with Trump than he does with Clinton.

 

otohara

(24,135 posts)
13. That Explains The Loud Applause From HRC Supporters
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:35 PM
Sep 2016

every time she thanks Bernie Sanders in her speeches.

Christ she/we're bending over backwards to welcome them into the fold - for many their hatred towards her inspired by Sanders and his surrogates is alive and well...never ending.

m-lekktor

(3,675 posts)
11. That's all I have down since I have been old enough to vote.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:13 PM
Sep 2016

The DEMS have always been to right wing for me but i vote for them every time.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
6. I do think she has to show them some concrete policies as examples of what they
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:41 AM
Sep 2016

have to gain by her being elected.

And then they need to pay attention instead of just voting for the dorky guy who likes pot, but opposes student financial aid and global warming regulations.

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
8. If they were enthusiastic about Bernie, they already know.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 12:59 PM
Sep 2016

If they weren't enthusiastic about Bernie, they probably won't even vote. If they do, that's more up to Trump than Hillary.

I see Hispanics and married women as much more productive targets.

I haven't been following closely, but I imagine the white male independent support she had over the summer has largely dried up. I would imagine the emails and "health scares" were the cause of that. If she's lost that group, I don't love her chances of getting them back.

Just my thoughts.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. I don't think she had much male independent vote over the summer
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:05 PM
Sep 2016

My hunch is that we're seeing turnout problems for her--with the election looking a lot more like 2004 than 2012.

In my opinion, she needs to drop the racism stuff with Trump. Yes, he's a horrible bigot, but the majority of white voters simply don't care about that. Shame on them for that, but their votes count just as much as people who have a moral objection to racism.



 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
10. That's interesting- the one thing I noticed about Sandrrs voters I know was they knew nothing
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:05 PM
Sep 2016

Of her positive policies (or denigrated them because they were focused on women), but they knew every bullshit accusation and distortion out of the Ailes / Briebart machine. They often admitted they never listened to her at all "they couldn't". So much ignorance.

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