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elleng

(130,865 posts)
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:38 AM Sep 2016

from Robert Reich

I finally found a Trump supporter -- this morning when I went to buy coffee. (I noticed a Trump bumper sticker on his car.)
“Hi,” I said. “Noticed your Trump bumper sticker.”
“Yup,” he said, a bit defensively.
“I hope you don’t mind my asking, but I’m curious. Why are you supporting him?”
“I know he’s a little bit much,” said the Trump supporter. “But he’s a successful businessman. And we need a successful businessman as president.”
“How do you know he’s a successful businessman?” I asked.
“Because he’s made a fortune.”
“Has he really?” I asked.
“Of course. Forbes magazine says he’s worth four and a half billion.”
“That doesn’t mean he’s been a success,” I said.
“In my book it does,” said the Trump supporter.
“You know, in 1976, when Trump was just starting his career, he said he was worth about $200 million,” I said. “Most of that was from his father.”
“That just proves my point,” said the Trump supporter. “He turned that $200 million into four and a half billion. Brilliant man."
“But if he had just put that $200 million into an index fund and reinvested the dividends, he’d be worth twelve billion today,” I said.
The Trump supporter went silent.
"And he got about $850 million in tax subsidies, just in New York alone," I said.
More silence.
"He's not a businessman," I said. "He's a con man. "Hope you enjoy your coffee."

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uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
2. +1, the business aspect of tRump is his one administrative strong point. This should be torn down..
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:48 AM
Sep 2016

.... piece by piece.

tRump has 4 billion (if that) bu borrowing it not liquid cash

still_one

(92,138 posts)
3. Interesting post. I seriously doubt anyone could engage with a trump supporter with the
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 11:50 AM
Sep 2016

mindset that hit the 69-year-old woman protester using an oxygen tank a few days ago.

It would also be difficult, if not impossible, to have a discussion with a trump supporter who subscribes to racist, sexist, xenophobic views as their most important reason for supporting trump.

In other words, I believe the majority of those aligning with trump are not because they view him as successful, but because of his bigotry

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
5. Government should not be ...
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:31 PM
Sep 2016

run like a business.

I hate when I hear people say this.

They are two mutually exclusive entities.

Businesses sell product and make money or not.
Governments collect taxes and use that money for the betterment of everyone!

Huge difference.

phallon

(260 posts)
6. But Robert...
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:31 PM
Sep 2016

You spent the last year tearing the Clinton's a new one.

Glad you finally showed up. Who are you voting for?

elleng

(130,865 posts)
7. He did NOT spend the last year 'tearing the Clintons a new one.'
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:36 PM
Sep 2016

He carefully expressed his misgivings.

He is voting for Hillary Clinton.

elleng

(130,865 posts)
10. Thanks. An example of his approach, July 29:
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 03:49 PM
Sep 2016

Hillary’s speech last night was designed to appeal to everyone, including Bernie supporters and even Republicans, while not committing herself to specifics. It was rhetorically perfect -- but left it to listeners to fill in the blanks. That’s okay at this point, but it may not be enough to win her the support of Bernie supporters and others who don’t yet trust her to make their issues her priorities.
“Wall Street, big corporations, and the super rich are going to start to pay their fair share of taxes.” Good. But what does that mean, exactly?
“Our economy isn’t working the way it should because our democracy isn’t working the way it should.” Right. But how will she get big money out of politics?
“Obama doesn’t get enough credit for the economic recovery, but none of us can be satisfied by the status quo.” True. But how will she improve the paychecks of the typical household, which is still lower than those paychecks were in 2000?
Bernie supporters “put economic and social justice issues front and center, where they belong.” Perfect. But what does this mean to her, exactly?
“Bernie Sanders and I will work together to make college tuition-free for the middle class and debt-free for all.” Excellent. But what other of Bernie’s agenda or even the Democratic platform will she fight for?
She’s against “unfair” trade deals, but didn’t tell us whether she’ll fight the Trans Pacific Partnership. She She’ll “raise the minimum wage” but didn’t give a number.
She’ll prevent Wall Street from “ever being allowed to wreck Main Street again,” but didn’t say how.
Overall, a fine speech, with ample zingers directed at Donald Trump. But she’s going to have to work hard in the months ahead to fill in her vision and convince America how committed she is to implementing it.

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elmac

(4,642 posts)
9. That line must be from the trump book
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:44 PM
Sep 2016

“I know he’s a little bit much,” my neighbor said the same thing before he spewed his trump praise. He is a good con artist, I will give him that.

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