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Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:27 PM

The Donald Bombings?

I keep having this sickening thought creep into my head, and it won’t leave me alone. If this disgusting, orange scumbag will publicly incite Russia to hack our elections and incite his supporters to punch people, what on this Earth would stop him from hiring people to set off explosions and IEDs all over this country to scare people into a fear-induced tizzy in an effort to compel voters to vote for him???

The tough guy…. The Badass! … the terrible Strong Man!?!?

Even if it’s not The Don himself hiring hit men, surely ISIS would find this an attractive strategy as well. Is our nation being terrorized into voting against our own best interests? I think the answer is a resounding and shocking: YES.

What is this country REALLY up against with this election?

This thought has had my stomach upset all morning.

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AmBlue Sep 2016 OP
MADem Sep 2016 #1
grossproffit Sep 2016 #4
hlthe2b Sep 2016 #5
MADem Sep 2016 #10
hlthe2b Sep 2016 #12
MADem Sep 2016 #13
hlthe2b Sep 2016 #14
MADem Sep 2016 #15
grossproffit Sep 2016 #2
hlthe2b Sep 2016 #3
cwydro Sep 2016 #6
Coyotl Sep 2016 #7
0rganism Sep 2016 #8
democrattotheend Sep 2016 #9
BlueInPhilly Sep 2016 #11
niyad Sep 2016 #16

Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:29 PM

1. Creative speculation is that-a-way. They have a suspect in custody. This was an 'act of terror.' nt

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Response to MADem (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:32 PM

4. Yeah, we do have a conspiracy forum. Been there once...ZOMG!

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Response to MADem (Reply #1)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:35 PM

5. Generally agree, but there's an aspect worth discussing--specifically Trump's rhetoric incitement

and given the media reporting on the perceived/real? bigotry this inividual and his retaurant-owning family encountered, I think the rhetoric as incitement angle SHOULD be discussed. (BUT, NOT the cs re: Trump actively financing such acts)

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #5)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:11 PM

10. This thread suggests there's a nexus. I doubt Trump could find Afghanistan on a map, never mind

find a disgruntled 28 year old radicalized Afghan to blow up a dumpster and shoot a cop.

Rhetoric as incitement is one thing (though in this case, I doubt this guy is a Trump humper) but this suggests if not coordination a relationship.

The facts on the ground just do not support this hypothesis.

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Response to MADem (Reply #10)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:17 PM

12. ISIS has suggested he is a recruiting tool & thus indirectly "supports" him

As my comment specified, even lone wolves can be indirectly influenced by his rhetoric WITHOUT being, as you term it, a "Trump-humper".

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #12)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:26 PM

13. Again, the main thesis is a direct monetary nexus between "the orange scumbag" and this terrorist.

I don't think this kind of postulation is terribly helpful in terms of the credibility of the site.

...what on this Earth would stop him from hiring people to set off explosions and IEDs all over this country ....



That's creative speculation.

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Response to MADem (Reply #13)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:30 PM

14. We all ask questions re: extent of Trump's authoritarianism, corruption & dictator-like tendencies

--quite different from proposing he WAS behind the incident (which would truly BE Creative Spec beyond the pale), even though, as I have already said, I am am unwilling to entertain that as even a possibility.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #14)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:32 PM

15. This thread postulates a direct financial relationship. That's Creative Speculation. nt

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:30 PM

2. This is a national security election. Many of us have been saying this all along.

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:31 PM

3. I'm not going to entertain the thought that he would finance such incidents, but...

I don't think he is stupid and thus must KNOW that his rhetoric is both inciting and rewarding such acts in terms of ISIS and other organized terror groups (and lone wolf "wannabes".

I don't think he is naive' enough not to know this and this I find him complicit even if he doesn't actively finance/recruit such horror himself.

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:39 PM

6. This is yet another far fetched theory.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 01:58 PM

7. Because the effect of such actions would elect Hillary Clinton!

 

If we need a strong President experienced in government, foreign affairs, and diplomacy, Trump is a huge loser to Clinton.

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:00 PM

8. there is an inherent weakness in such schemes

now i wouldn't put it above DJT's buddies or ISIS flunkies to try it, but there is a risk in either case, and that risk is exactly what played out today: bombs ineffective, suspect alive and in custody within 72 hours. that Rahani dude is going to get interrogated real good, and the various intelligence and security agencies are going to walk that cat backwards to check on everyone he's had contact with in the last year and everyone his contacts have contacted. every goddam text, email, and phone call log entry in Rahani's 1st and 2nd circles is going to be under intense scrutiny.

for DJT or his campaign, if it comes out that they had anything to do with hiring or inspiring Rahani or any of his contacts (note that the Obama administration's motivation to keep such allegations quiet is... minimal), they're done. Trump may claim he could kill someone on 5th and still turn out his voters, but if it comes out that he's hiring assholes to create random indiscriminate mayhem across America, that's the end. forget the racketeering and conspiracy charges, i think Trump would find out that his support doesn't go that deep. he'd be done. Donezo. 20% ceiling in the election. game over.

ISIS is also taking a risk with such a strategy, albeit with lower stakes for them. if communications come to light that show ISIS acting specifically to promote DJT's campaign, the campaign ads write themselves. 20% ceiling again. Donezo.

with that in mind, October is still going to be something of a nail biter, but 2 things can absolutely seal it for HRC:
1. she has to absolutely smoke him in the debates complete with ashtray, beyond even the formidable abilities of the MSM to mis-characterize a debate in favor of the Republican.
2. president Obama's team cracks down on terrorism, both foreign and domestic, in a big way; this may mean the CIA has to sacrifice some assets, but cashing in those chips could make a huge difference. if HRC can point to Obama's record and say "in the last month, the administration, with the NSA and FBI, has foiled 3 major domestic terror attacks", she wins back some of that confidence on the terror issue.

i suggest you not worry overmuch, no one is aware of this situation more than the president and the presidential campaigns. motivation to engage in such dangerous bullshit is bound to be low, as the odds that a conspirator would fuck up and/or leak make the risk outweigh the reward.

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:06 PM

9. It's definitely possible

Whether Trump is behind it or not, he can barely hide his giddiness over it. Hopefully that will come back to bite him.

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Mon Sep 19, 2016, 02:13 PM

11. The "Khan" in the suspect's name

must have brought him much glee, and in his mind, "exoneration"

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Response to AmBlue (Original post)

Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:07 AM

16. you expressed exactly what I was thinking about all of this.

what a depressing commentary on just how bizarre this election cycle is, with the worst candidate that we have ever seen, vain, ignorant, hate-filled, hate-mongering. . . . it is no wonder that this was the first thought in many minds.

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