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helpisontheway

(5,007 posts)
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 06:21 PM Sep 2016

Halperin just said Hillary is underperforming

with millenials, African Americans AND HISPANICS (when compared to Obama). I know pundits have always said she was with millenials and African Americans but this is the first time that I heard someone say hispanics. Wonder if this is evident in one poll of many polls? Is that why places like Nevada and Florida are close? I still can't understand why anyone (but especially African Americans and Hispanics) could ever support Trump. Or maybe they are just supporting Johnson? Which I still don't understand because they know that Hillary needs all the votes that she can get to defeat Trump.

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Halperin just said Hillary is underperforming (Original Post) helpisontheway Sep 2016 OP
so vadermike Sep 2016 #1
But is Trump underperforming among those same saltpoint Sep 2016 #2
Halperin, Andrea Mitchell and Chuck Todd ought to have a three-way with one another. (nt) Paladin Sep 2016 #3
Add MSNBC Kornaki to that bunch. oasis Sep 2016 #18
It's just another rightwing talking point C_U_L8R Sep 2016 #4
Is she? zenabby Sep 2016 #5
More desperation from the Hillary Haters alcibiades_mystery Sep 2016 #6
He pried his lips loose from DJTs tush long enough Skidmore Sep 2016 #7
Hillary has lost 30% of her millennials support since august BlueStateLib Sep 2016 #8
Persuasion Techniques work. maxsolomon Sep 2016 #9
You have to be able to rally the base. People need to be excited to vote for you Thrill Sep 2016 #10
this is all crap MyNameIsKhan Sep 2016 #11
My stats say Blue Idaho Sep 2016 #19
Problem is no one is there to question Halperin with real data... MyNameIsKhan Sep 2016 #12
It's kind of amusing after 2008 democrattotheend Sep 2016 #13
Americans have very, very short memories. What HRC says to day will be forgotten next week. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #14
Post removed Post removed Sep 2016 #15
Just not true Justice Sep 2016 #16
You are going to believe what Halperin says? MoonRiver Sep 2016 #17

saltpoint

(50,986 posts)
2. But is Trump underperforming among those same
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 06:25 PM
Sep 2016

demographic groups set against Romney's and McCain's totals?

And is the differential between the levels of support per demographic group enough to teeter-totter a swing state from Clinton to Trump?

There are reports that up to mid-evening on election night, Romney had been told by his polling people (and believed himself) that he had won the election.

Didn't happen.

C_U_L8R

(45,000 posts)
4. It's just another rightwing talking point
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 06:43 PM
Sep 2016

Same as Benghazi bullshit, phony trust issues, and oh-so-whispered health issues. They're serving endless baloney, hoping people believe it.
I'll stick with her, thank you very much.

zenabby

(364 posts)
5. Is she?
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 06:49 PM
Sep 2016

I thought she was doing as well as Obama with african americans and hispanics, but turnout for african american millenials might be lower. Where is the data for this?

BlueStateLib

(937 posts)
8. Hillary has lost 30% of her millennials support since august
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:00 PM
Sep 2016

Since August Hillary's 24-point lead over Trump is now only 5 points among voters 18-to-34 years

A national Quinnipiac poll showed Clinton capturing 31% of the vote among voters 18-to-34 years of age and a slim 5-point lead over Trump. In August Clinton had 48% of that vote and a 24-point lead over Trump.


I think she will get some of those voters back

maxsolomon

(33,316 posts)
9. Persuasion Techniques work.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:26 PM
Sep 2016

that's what he's doing - a mass hypnosis/hard sell on the American Public. he sees us all as Marks, Rubes.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
10. You have to be able to rally the base. People need to be excited to vote for you
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:30 PM
Sep 2016

Shes got to campaign better. You can't just expect people to line up and vote for you

MyNameIsKhan

(2,205 posts)
11. this is all crap
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:31 PM
Sep 2016

In 2008
48% of 18-29 voted
in 2012
44% of 18-29 voted

Both cases Obama got 75% of votes

First of all Hillary getting 48% is crap but getting 31% is plain bat shit crazy.

So now they saying 18-29 will not vote this election and will be like 30% of total electorate...

Blue Idaho

(5,049 posts)
19. My stats say
Tue Sep 20, 2016, 11:27 AM
Sep 2016

36% in 2008
And
47% in 2012

Those numbers are both way up from the historical number with hovers at 30% with peaks and troughs along the way. I have no idea what the number will be this year, but of course we hope that age group will come out and support Sec. Clinton in record numbers.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
13. It's kind of amusing after 2008
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:34 PM
Sep 2016

In 2008, they wrote all these articles questioning whether Obama could connect with and turn out Hispanics, white working class, etc. voters that Hillary had won in the primary. Now they are asking if Hillary can do as well among those same voters as Obama did.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
14. Americans have very, very short memories. What HRC says to day will be forgotten next week.
Mon Sep 19, 2016, 07:50 PM
Sep 2016

She knows that. Her campaign knows that. Hell starts coming down on Trump the day after the first debate and continues through the election.

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