Do you have the feeling that Trump will say he WON the debate

[yuiyoshida]

and even if he didn't, and that it won't matter to his base, because they are so blindly in love with his politics, they will never change their mind?

Than again this debate is for those who are sitting on the fence. Its hard to believe there are any of those left? Maybe those who never follow Politics, don't read the papers, or new services on the internet, or watch TV news. There are few of those people, and anyone with any sense at all, and knows Donald Trump, will have to come down on the side of Hillary.

If the Debate is rigged, its going to be rigged in his own mind, and he will simply declare it rigged, and say he really won.

If this were a boxing match, he would be out of his class. Way out of his class. He could be on the floor with a black eye and cut lip, and still claim the refs were paid off, and He should have won..

This guy has probably cheated and lied his entire life. Pathological Liar and con man. P.T Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute." I wonder what he would have thought of Donald J. Trump?

[Wounded Bear]

1. No doubt in my mind...

he'll never admit defeat.

[Mike Daniels]

2. Do you think Hillary won't imply she won the debate even if she does poorly

No candidate for POTUS would ever imply they didn't win a debate even if they crashed and burned.

Palin didn't even answer the questions asked by the moderator in the VP debate and you didn't hear anyone on the GOP side come close to saying that she lost the debate.

[yeoman6987]

3. +1

[unblock]

6. actually, i'm not so sure.

of course, no one's just going to come out and say they flat out lost.

but i'm pretty sure there have been times where a candidate offered excuses for a weak performance or said their performance in the next debate would be stronger.

which is politispeak for "yeah, i know i lost."

[Proud Liberal Dem]

7. Obama acknowledged that his first debate with Romney

didn't go particularly well in 2012 but he bounced back nicely. It's going to be interesting to see her debating Trump. I predict that they will try to catch her in a "sigh" or eye roll" with Trump like they did in the Bush v. Gore 2000 debates. If I were trying to debate somebody with Trump's mentality, I'm not sure that I would manage to keep a straight face with him letting loose with all of his lies and outrageous statements.

[unblock]

10. the bush/gore debates were a leap in obvious bias in the media

aside ripping into gore over a sigh (seriously, :wtf , my favorite example was when gore walked over near shrub and shrub turned around, saw him, and leaped into the air like a literal scaredy-cat. that was incredibly non-alpha-male behavior, and it was very revealing. indeed, cheney walked all over him and generally it seemed that he was never really the one in charge of the oval office, he was the puppet of bigger *ssholes behind the scenes.

but the media completely ignored that aspect and reamed gore for somehow "crowding" bush on a large stage, despite the fact that the taller person walking to get near the shorter person is a well-know, tried and true debate strategy, and there were stories beforehand practically announcing that gore would do this.

so, thanks to the media, we got the worst president ever.

but gee, at least he didn't sigh much.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

12. And don't forget

You could have a beer with Bush (who, as a recovering alcoholic, shouldn't be drinking anyway, but that's beside the point)


Come to think of it, though, Bush basically was "drunk" at the wheel for eight years and ended up wrecking the family car. Even though we got a new driver, Republicans have made sure that we can't fix that battered car up too good, however.

[unblock]

14. worst.president.ever

it's always dicey making such pronouncements without the benefit of the perspective only the passage of time brings, but...

so much went wrong during his reign of error, and i can really think of nothing -- *nothing* -- redeemable about his presidency.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

16. I don't think that there *is* anything redeemable about his (P)residency

I didn't pay much attention to him during the first few months of his (P)residency. It seemed pretty lackluster and I figured he'd be a one-termer, like his father. I was supportive of him about going into Afghanistan to take out the Taliban over their support/sanctuary of Al-Queda following 09/11 but he completely lost me the moment that he turned his sights on Iraq. Everything else turned out to be a disaster. His support of some kind of real immigration reform was laudable but it didn't go anywhere.

[unblock]

18. At first he only wanted to invade Iraq!

He had to be effectively restrained and told no, you have to attack an actually relevant country first, then we can build a sham case to invade Iraq later....

[Proud Liberal Dem]

27. Good point

I had forgotten about that. It's sort of amazing that he thought that he could have pulled an invasion/regime change in Iraq BEFORE 9/11 had happened. I can't for the life of me understand how they could have pulled that off without 9/11 happening. While I don't believe any of the conspiracy theories about them deliberately causing/allowing 9/11, the Bush (mis-)Administration was certainly not taking the intelligence they were getting seriously and they clearly took full advantage of it afterwards to advance their political agenda, including Iraq.

[susanna]

23. That would be my fear for myself as well.

I wouldn't be able to do it, though I am normally very cool under pressure and level headed.

With Agent Orange, I'd be a hot mess. My eyes might roll right out of my head and onto the stage.

[unblock]

4. sure as the sun sets in the west. he'll also insult hillary as "loser" or "weak" or both.

and he'll dismiss all her knowledge, experience, thoughtful plans, and calls for action as "boring", "insider", "dumb ideas", and "screeching".

[sarae]

5. In other news, the sun will rise tomorrow.

[Madam45for2923]

8. Sore Losers never concede!

[sinkingfeeling]

9. Of course he will. Already claimed he 'won' the forum.

[Mike Daniels]

11. I think Trump's hardest task is going to be showing Hillary any respect (just as a fellow candidate)

I remember that during the VP debate in 2008 Biden had to be careful not to be seen as condescending or aggressive in his presentation towards Palin.

Trump has shown that he doesn't have that amount of control esp. if he feels he's been insulted or disrespected. He's one tweak away from totally going off and doing his primary race insult comic routine on Clinton during the debate which would definitely not be a great visual for him.

[maxrandb]

13. Is the Pope Catholic?

Does a bear crap in the woods?

Is water wet?

[Glassunion]

31. Nothing in life beyond death is certain.

I'm not 100% sure to your first question, as he does tend to do and say things against 1000's of years of doctrine.

The second one, I'd say no, the empirical evidence to this was that one left me a present on my deck.

To your last, I'd have to outright say no. Water is not wet at all. Water is a liquid. Wet is by definition to cover or touch something with liquid. Now water is one of of many factors of making something wet, but itself cannot be wet. You see water is water, therefore it is not wet. When water touches something that is not water, that something becomes wet.

[MFM008]

15. Isn't he already saying it??

..........

[Third Doctor]

17. No doubt about it.

Plus If the general consensus is that he lost he'll whine about being treated unfairly.

[Bradical79]

19. 100% certain

Any candidate will imply they won a debate, but Trump will simultaneously shout it from the rooftops in the most abraisive way imaginable and suggest a conspiracy is the sole reason any outlet declares Clinton the winner. The more clear it is he is the loser, the louder he will be.

[yuiyoshida]

21. This is true, by Fox News Standards

Who ever shouts the loudest and the longest wins. He might even think that is how he will win.

[Blue Idaho]

20. Of course he will!

And he will add "And many many people have told me they think I won the debate too. Important people who I respect have called me and told me I won. I'll leave it at that."

[randome]

22. He may be forced to finesse his statements.

"When you take out the unfairness of the moderators and the rigged format of the debate, then people tell me I won."
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[TeamPooka]

24. "Many people are saying I kicked her ass." will be his exact quote. nt

[yuiyoshida]

25. I am sure that with the debate

Trump will get away with saying the most outrageous sexist things, as he has in the past when he called Rosie Odonnell a "fat pig."

It wouldn't surprise me, if he used similar language for Hillary, as all "Respect" will go out the window.. This next debate, is going to nasty and beyond any kind of social civility.

[TeamPooka]

26. exactly. Wait the desperation really hits the guy.

[SDJay]

28. That Asshole May As Well

roll out his victory talking points now, as I'm sure they're already written. It won't matter what actually happens in the debate.

I don't even want to watch it. He will once again manage to do a level of harm to our country in terms of how the world perceives us such that it will take a long time to get past it.

I really despise that person with a hot passion.

[JoePhilly]

29. He'll say he won before it happens.

[Shrike47]

30. No matter how he does, Trump will say he won AND say he was treated unfairly.

In his version, he will have succeeded in spite of the deck being stacked against him.

[BootinUp]

32. Does a duck waddle when it walks? nt

[SwankyXomb]

33. Even if he bails on the debate he'll claim victory

No lie is beneath him.