2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf You are Voting for Jill Stein, Here is What I know About You
Sasha Stone
Sep 144 min read
If You are Voting for Jill Stein, Here is What I know About You
1. I know you are selfish. Its easy to pretend to care about other people and that somehow protesting the two-party system means you are doing the moral and ethical thing. You think that what you believe in matters more than what might happen to other people. Dont pretend like you care about anyone other than yourself and your image and your brand. Selfishness is the only trait you display in this silly, pointless vote. Just stay home. Dont bother revealing this ugly trait to the world.
2. You dont really care about the environment. Whether youre Greenpeace activists attacking Hillary Clinton, or youre shrieking about the TPP, or youre taping your mouth shut and pretending climate change matters to you, or more likely, youre pushing fracking to the top of your agenda because that is the only way you can adequately target Hillary Clinton, because she has not 100% opposed fracking the way Bernie Sanders has. Never mind that Bernie Sanders 1) could not get the nomination, 2) could not get elected, 3) could do nothing if elected because his policies are too extreme for the American people, let alone Democrats, let alone Republicans in Congress. No, you dont care about the environment AND STOP PRETENDING THAT YOU DO. You, like the Nader supporters in 2000, DO NOT CARE ABOUT IT. You are willing to risk giving the presidency to someone who not only believes climate change is a hoax but who is ready and willing to drill baby drill, anywhere and everywhere. To take the oil from war torn regions and to lift all environmental regulations put in place by Obama. If you knew anything about climate change, if you cared AT ALL about what was happening to the planet you would vote for the only Democrat who can win. If you vote for Jill Stein you are a fraud and no one should ever take anything you say seriously and you should stop telling other people the environment is your number one concern. It is not. Your ego is. Your ego is all that matters because you are so wrapped up in being that person who doesnt vote for Hillary that you are willing to sacrifice the environment yes, you are and dont pretend otherwise. At least admit you are selfish and that your ego is all that matters.
More at https://medium.com/@sashastone/if-you-are-voting-for-jill-stein-here-is-what-i-know-about-you-3031c6e8fd1d#.nq25np73f
Exactly my sentiments.
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Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)Bernie Busters claim to be ideological Puritans, but I'm no impressed with them at all.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)I have stopped following many of my former comrades on Twitter because they are really pissing me off now.
DinahMoeHum
(21,774 posts)in a nutshell.
Gothmog
(144,921 posts)ArtD48
(150 posts)I think some people are innocently misguided or uninformed.
I saw a YouTube a few days ago (see below) where someone went on campus and asked questions like 1) who was the Civil War between? and 2) which country did the U.S. win its independence from?
I don't think insulting these people will make them vote Hillary.
They need education, to be talked to in a sympathetic manner.
Whiskeytide
(4,459 posts)... kids (ages 9 and 13) could answer all of these questions and discuss them intelligently...
But then I realized neither of them would know who Snookie is. Oh well!
Demsrule86
(68,469 posts)then you are a selfish person who cares for nobody.
Gman
(24,780 posts)They would just be quiet, observe and learn from those who already did the work for them to build on. Instead they arrogantly disregard all that like they know better. They will suffer much more from a Prez Trump than I will. And because they are stupid.
democrattotheend
(11,605 posts)If people in non-swing states want to send a message with their vote, I don't think that really makes them selfish, because they know their vote won't really matter.
musicblind
(4,484 posts)I have to admit, it really bothers me, but I can't do anything. It's their vote. We all get one vote.
One of them was a Hillary fan until 'discovering' Bernie and now that he knows 'someone as great as Bernie' was an option he can't bring himself to vote for Hillary.
They are good people, but I don't think the understand that mathematically speaking, a vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)We need everyone to vote for Hillary, and not take anything for granted.
This is a weird election and Trump has whipped up the white working class with his dystopian vision, and there's no telling what the turnout of these voters (even in blue states) will be.
IOW, the current polling and historical models may all be crap.
Before the primaries some thought he would lose to someone like Kasich in the more moderate northeastern states, because 'how could anyone but far-right bigots vote for someone like Trump'. But yet Trump was dominant even in these areas. IOW, even (or maybe especially) in blue states white resentment is stronger than it has been in decades, and there's no telling what type of turnout we'll see in the general election.