MSM pundits, CNN and MSNBC, twisting themselves into pretzels trying to figure out how Rump wins.

[MoonRiver]

It really is pathetic to watch. They all agree that Hillary has an electoral college, and probably popular vote, advantage, but just can't let go of that 'Rump can do this, if 10 things all come together perfectly,' meme.

[helpisontheway]

1. Yeah Morning Joe panel gave him Wisconsin to get him to 270. Nt

[MoonRiver]

2. That despite them just having discussed how she is ahead there, in most recent poll.

CNN same thing, basically. I flip back and forth, depending on my level of disgust, so I often miss key points of their delusional reasoning.

[riversedge]

8. Hillary does need to come to WI to campaign herself --then a few good

surrogates.

Way back in Aug? the first time Obama and Hillary were to be together was to be in Green Bay WI. then a terroist struck. So it was cancelled.

Now they need to reschedule the stop.

[MoonRiver]

9. Yes, that makes perfect sense!

[Demsrule86]

19. He won't get Wisconsin.

So stupid of the MSM.

[gordianot]

3. Sometimes this is difficult to figure out.

M$M media would suffer greatly under a thin skinned authoritarian like Trump. I think it all comes down to political ad revenue. Give Trump a chance and encourage your random billionaire to float money on a lost cause.

[stopbush]

13. Hillary is the one spending millions in ad dollars

and it gets her nothing but biased, negative coverage.

[gordianot]

15. The greed wants more and it seems to work.

Even an obvious loser like Trump is attracting money.

[bettyellen]

17. I think it's more about ratings = dollars

[JI7]

21. yes, especially when you consider that TV news in the US is pretty much a reality show

these days.

i watch bbc and other foreign news media and you can tell a huge difference.

you aren't getting economists , foreign policy experts , etc to discuss and debate the policies of candidates .

[liberal N proud]

4. Trust they will do everything in their power to help the Con Man

[Old and In the Way]

5. My take....

A Clinton/Kaine win will make life tough for the talking heads. Who wants to tune in and watch them talk about a competent administration that actual runs the country in a steady, predictable manner? Trump/Pence will provide all kinds of issues to talk about...idiotic missteps, disasterous policy decisions, unprecedented diplomatic buffoonary. Maybe even a criminal indictment of a sitting President, Which would you prefer if your making your living as a Washington political commentator?

[MoonRiver]

6. Wow, if you are correct, what a miserable joke our media has become.

[uponit7771]

10. +1

[radius777]

22. Exactly, in the media age, they almost always

choose to hype the more exciting candidate or storyline, whether Dem or Repub, whether qualified or not.

Remember that the media is in the business of ratings/viewers, and each reporter/journalist and talking head's career advancement is based on exciting or compelling stories.

[still_one]

7. The media today is about 5-10% news, and 90% commentary which they try to push

off as news.

It is actually a con game intentionally or unintentionally perpetrated on the American public.

The poster child case of this was the swift boating of John Kerry, where the media took it upon themselves to incorporate the swift boat liars ad in a large number of their reporting back then, by continuously playing that ad as part of the "news", which gave the swift boaters free advertising.

The Hillary "is not likable" was a creation of the media for years, which started in 1993 when she introduced her healthcare plan. That plan was the Health and Security Act, and the media quickly embraced the term "Hillarycare", from the Hillary haters, in a similar way that the Affordable Healthcare Plan was replaced by "Obamacare".

Opposition to the plan was heavy from conservatives, libertarians, and the health insurance industry. A television ad, "Harry and Louise", was produced to rally public support against the plan, and the media was only too willing to accommodate.

In my view that is when the media's sexist colors were made quite obvious.

There is a doubt standard about a "strong woman", that bother them, verses a "strong man".

Hillary has been constantly criticized for years by the media as not "smiling, looking angry, always yelling or shrill". It is the not so subtle why the media has characterized her as the B word.

Is it any wonder after years of demeaning characterizations of Hillary by the illustrious media, that when pollsters ask about Hillary's likability, they numbers come in low?

It is the medias way of molding public opinion, and it is a form of indirect push polling.

It is these commentaries, that are incorporated along side news that distorts the whole picture. There was actually a time when television news' outlets spent most of their coverage on reporting news. Now they intersperse it with commentary and opinion.

What is the first thing done when a major event occurs? They start parading so-called experts, many times with hidden political agendas, to spew their opinions, which of course the public unquestionably eats up.

The invasion of Iraq was one of the most lethal examples of this.

It is way past due that the media start cleaning up their act. Gossip and rumors have taken over hard cold facts

[MoonRiver]

11. Social media participation is much higher than in 2004.

The lying, corrupt MSM can't get away with their scams as much.

[still_one]

14. True, but that is a double edged sword also. Not everything posted on social media

is factual

[Iliyah]

12. Didn't take them long to revert back.

I honestly believe a lot of t-rump's presidential donations are lining the pockets of many media types.

[Blue Idaho]

16. I think I saw Jake Tapper adding extra states

To get Trump to 270... it's getting rediculous.

No matter what - our job is to make the margin as big as possible. This election is in our hands along with Sec. Clinton. It's time we all put them to work!

[triron]

18. Sam Wang

has hrc win back at 80% (Bayesian), going up again finally. Hope trend continues especially after 1t debate.

[sarcasmo]

20. The Trump talk is all about ratings.