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BootinUp

(47,053 posts)
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 01:42 AM Sep 2016

Hillary Clinton just borrowed a billionaire tax hike from Bernie Sanders

Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton proposed on Thursday to tax the estates of ultra-rich Americans at a rate as high as 65 percent — a plan that would apply to only a handful of billionaire families, and which comes straight from the campaign playbook of Clinton's former rival, Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont.

Clinton had already proposed to raise estate tax rates on some millionaires to 45 percent. Her new plan goes further. It would add three new brackets: a 50 percent rate for couples with estates valued above $10 million, a 55 percent rate for couples with estates above $50 million and a 65 percent rate for those with estates above $1 billion. Republican nominee Donald Trump has called for the elimination of the estate tax entirely.

Internal Revenue Service data suggest Clinton's highest rates would apply to very few Americans. In 2014, there were only 223 estate-tax payers with reported estates valued at $50 million or more. Still, the plan drew immediate protests from conservatives, including the Trump campaign, which labeled it an "even more dramatic hike in the death tax."

Politically, the proposal could serve a dual purpose for Clinton. It would raise more revenue for the federal government and helps her make the case that she has proposed sufficient tax increases to offset all her proposed spending programs. It also could help her court former backers of Sanders, particularly young liberals who have been slower to embrace her candidacy after she defeated him for the nomination.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/09/22/hillary-clinton-just-borrowed-a-billionaire-tax-hike-from-bernie-sanders/

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Lithos

(26,403 posts)
1. No brainer - glad to hear this!
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 02:01 AM
Sep 2016

Maybe it also will have the added effect of unnerving Trump even more before the debate as no doubt he'll view this as "personal" (he always seems to do so)

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R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
2. So who copied this from Bill Clinton? He already
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 02:15 AM
Sep 2016

raised taxes on the rich decades ago. That's part of the reason he left office with a surplus.

BootinUp

(47,053 posts)
3. I don't really get the need to credit politicians for ideas, I just care what they plan
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 02:22 AM
Sep 2016

to do and whether they can convince people its the right idea. And I'm pretty sure Bill wouldn't mind at all if someone copied his idea. In this case they are crediting Sanders publicly to attract attention from his former supporters.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
4. Except that it is done in an obvious way to
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 02:29 AM
Sep 2016

malign Hillary by saying she is stealing his ideas, with the incorrect insinuation that he is superior to Hillary and we should all be so regretful she won.

Reality is that this was her husband's idea. Decades ago.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
10. Especially since these very same people were urging her to adopt some of Bernie's platform.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 05:38 AM
Sep 2016

Well....she just adopted some of his platform (according to them). They should be happy.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
16. You say we "should be happy"? Fine, I really AM happy.
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:17 PM
Sep 2016

Of course, it's little more than a gesture, because she'd never be able to get this plan through the House even if she were to push it once in office -- but I appreciate the gesture FWIW.

vdogg

(1,384 posts)
17. Well, if you don't think she'd be able to get it through the house
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 09:47 PM
Sep 2016

What made you think Bernie would be able to? Republicans don't cooperate with democrats. They would've blocked him just like the did Obama of they will her.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
18. There are some things the next President WILL be able to do
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 10:02 PM
Sep 2016

A notable example is appointments. From Clinton we have a tack to the left (estate tax increase) and a tack to the right (naming the conservaDem Ken Salazar as her transition chief). The difference is that the latter is not a mere gesture.

I always thought that, if the Democratic nominee won, the next four years would be marked by very little legislative accomplishment, for the reason you state -- regardless of who that nominee was. The next President's biggest impact would instead be in appointments, executive orders, foreign policy, and setting the long-term political agenda in a way that would affect legislation down the road.

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
6. How is "estate" defined?
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:50 AM
Sep 2016

How come, "in 2014, there were only 223 estate-tax payers with reported estates valued at $50 million or more?"

 

Ghost Dog

(16,881 posts)
8. With exemptions for the truly wealthy
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 04:58 AM
Sep 2016

employing tax lawyers, clearly. Trusts, foundations, holding companies etc...

canetoad

(17,135 posts)
9. This is delicious
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 05:21 AM
Sep 2016

Trump is 70 and there are at least three fucking vulture spawn waiting for his saggy old carcass to drop dead.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
15. I doubt Sanders invented the concept of taxing idle wealth...
Fri Sep 23, 2016, 12:11 PM
Sep 2016

...but this would be a nice little step forward. The tiny number of affected estates must be emphasized if this is to have a prayer of passing.

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