2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumJust curious. What do you think Hillary's response should be if Gennifer Flowers shows up?
If she were bold enough to show up at the debate, I'd call her to the audience's attention. If I were Hillary, I'd say:
"Pardon me me for a moment. I'd like to point out to the ladies in the audience, the trollop my husband had an affair with 30 years ago who's obviously the invited guest of my opponent. As if I have anything to be ashamed of. I wasn't the one who had an affair or two, or three, or more like my opponent here.
That's why I think it so important to say to all the young girls and young women here tonight, or watching at home. "Stay in school", Without an education, you'll be singing for your supper and god knows what else, for the rest of your life. And that's really sad, especially when you're much older and your beauty fades and you don't get to choose what old dried up piece of meat you get to eat, for supper. But you get what I'm saying, don't you. I'm sorry I got off topic, but I saw her there and just wanted to take this opportunity as a teaching moment, for the young women.
Now I've got to get back to where I left off or we'll be here all night. Besides, my plane's waiting on the tarmac to take me wherever my husband, and our family wants to go."
If she said anything close to this, it would be game, set, match. As the saying goes, revenge is best served cold. We know that Trump has been practicing with Roger Ailes for some Reaganesque moment to be dropped on Hillary. What better way to beat him to the punch? I guarantee, nothing else Roger Ailes inspired or approved that Trump could say, would touch it.
Johnny2X2X
(19,038 posts)She should invite one of the women Trump raped when they were children.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)Trump wants a reaction from her; she should not give him one.
karynnj
(59,501 posts)(Secret service has its purposes.)
MANative
(4,112 posts)annoying behaviors because the actor is almost always looking for a reaction more than anything. If they don't get it, they usually move on or stop the behavior. The only problem is that DT is not the typical annoyance. He doesn't ever quit. Gods, I wish he would quit, on more levels than I could possibly count.
lamp_shade
(14,828 posts)etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)She is NOT responsible for the misdeeds of Flowers or Bill Clinton. this is simply not her issue.
MADem
(135,425 posts)And I agree with you, same reaction--none at all. It's not HRC's fault that her husband used to think with the small head.
As for Monica, she needs to get the money UP FRONT if she decides to completely trash her reputation by selling herself to the Conald as a debate talking point--because that'll be the end of the line for her. She'll need to make enough bank to live off of, forever.
I wonder how much GF was promised for this appearance, and if SHE got the money up front.
Because, same deal--if she didn't get the money ahead of time, that con artist won't pay her, either. It's what he does.
If life were fair, THAT would be the story--Conald uses women, promises them money, doesn't pay them.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)Mamajami
(257 posts)Hello Gennifer, how are you? I'm running for President...and you?
niyad
(113,259 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)DURHAM D
(32,609 posts)Hi Gennifer, Bill said to tell you hello.
MyNameIsKhan
(2,205 posts)She should say she was a honest married women who tried to work her marriage as a normal person would ... Not like trump who buys a women every 10 years ...
hlthe2b
(102,225 posts)with a cordial and in-control smile and that is it... unless perhaps to add, I hope the many years have been good for you (sans any eyeroll or reaction).
On this, and as Michelle Obama says, they go low and we go high.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)I firmly believe that if Gennifer Flowers shows up Hillary should not acknowledge her or refer to her in any way. Trump is trying to get a reaction and Hillary must not give him one. At all.
enough
(13,256 posts)Trollop is an archaic word for slut. A word only applied to women.
Hillary would never say anything like what the OP is proposing.
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)Sounds nicer than slut. It's more like promiscuous. If Flowers had the balls to show up at my debate and try and put me on the defense, I'd do exactly what I said. And I thought that was rather polite of me.
Who wins or lose is not going to be about policy positions, and who had the best. That's all the media has been talking about for the past two days. Hillary will get no credit for having the best policies. The media knows she's smarter than Trump and she gets no points for having good policy positions. Trump on the other hand is not expected to go into ANY details on policy positions. He's going to take Roger Ailes advice and talk in generalities only, no specifics. Trump wins if he keeps his temperament in check and doesn't say anything too far out in left field. The bar for Trump is extremely low. If he shows up in a dark suit and tie and doesn't say anything too far out in left field, he wins. The media has been saying, the winner won't be determined Monday night, unless something totally BIG happens which no one expects. The media has said, the winner will be decided by what we are all talking about on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. So Hillary has to give them something out of her zone of predictability, to be talking about. Playing safe does not get her any points.
Roger Ailes is from the school of leaving the audience and the media with something they will be talking about for days, and perhaps years later. Trump will be looking for an opportunity to say something that will be the equivalent of hitting the ball out of the park. Hillary playing it safe, will be consider a walk and is not going to be enough for the win if Trump hits a home run. I know its not fair, but what about this campaign season has been fair.
MADem
(135,425 posts)Trump is a trollop of the worst sort--the alliterative nature of the term "Trump the trollop" has potential...perhaps we should get this to the writers!!!
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)her plane is on the tarmac waiting to take her wherever Bill (and family) wants to go!
demmiblue
(36,841 posts)She is there to make her case for being the next POTUS, FFS.
And, your post is kind of weird.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)bozo in the expensive suits cut to hide the doughy gut and the cheesy chinese ties she's debating is a prime example of a bloated and faded "beaut" --
enough
(13,256 posts)PJMcK
(22,031 posts)"Good evening, Gennifer. Despite our past, I hold no ill will towards you. I'd like to ask you for your vote. Thank you."
politicaljunkie41910
(3,335 posts)husband's mistress. I guarantee you she would lose honesty points with the audience if she said something like that.
Happyhippychick
(8,379 posts)And she should leave it at that.
jbeing
(171 posts)But not something she should say. Let a surrogate hammer that home.
I have faith that women will see her appearance for what it is and realize what Trump actually thinks of women in general - as object to be used.
cornball 24
(1,475 posts)on Trump's podium.
mrsv
(209 posts)Gennifer Flowers showing up...with everyone knowing she fucks married men...is enough said
vlyons
(10,252 posts)a) she has little self respect, and b) she still allows herself to be used by men.
amb123
(1,581 posts)inviting Gennifer Flowers to this debate you can frighten me, rattle me or otherwise psychologically intimidate me, you've got another thing coming.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)zenabby
(364 posts)Bringing Gennifer Flowers shows the level Donald Trump would stoop to. He himself is no saint, with multiple affairs and infidelities, and he wants to bring Gennifer Flowers to shame Hillary??? Hillary - who did nothing wrong, and her husband had an affair? I think this will turn ALL women against him. Hillary should stay her dignified self. DJT is expecting a response and when he sees none, he will try to get a response and say stupid things that will only shine the light on him brightly.
IVoteDFL
(417 posts)She shouldn't show any reaction at all. The whole point of bringing Gennifer Flowers would be to shake Hillary. She must be unshakeable.
EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)That'd flip his tangerine wig.
global1
(25,241 posts)Hillary needs to ignore and not acknowledge GF's existence at all. Don't fall into Trump's trap.
Shrike47
(6,913 posts)Of course, it would be tempting if she was asked what she thought about it, to say "like Ivana Trump felt, I imagine, when confronted with one of Mr. Trump's old mistresses."
Or, "it appears to be Mr. Trump's belief that an unfaithful husband is the wife's fault. That lack of personal responsibility is insulting to women. Shame on him."
IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)I understand my opponent has taken that vow at least three different times.
Hekate
(90,645 posts)I do, however, honor Hillary's choice -- and abhore the utter hypocrisy of the gang that impeached the Big Dog while preaching "family values."
IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)I didn't go into detail and worded it quickly, but yes, your point of honoring Secretary Clinton's choice is my point as well.
And the childish "impeachment" from the "family values" folk was laughable then and is still so now.
I also accept a couple who don't make it and one or both remarries. That is a far cry from the revolving-door constant parade of wives displayed by the likes of Trump and Limpblob who then boast about their Republican "values."
Hekate
(90,645 posts)36 years ago I was very greatful California had instituted no-fault divorce laws, so I didn't have to air my emotional trauma in public and could just exit with some dignity from what was a real mistake after 9 years of trying. My 2nd (and final) husband and I are about to celebrate 29 years of marriage in a few weeks.
Others keep trying to find the "right" partner, and I long ago quit judging. Thank the gods the country liberalized marriage laws so people have a genuine choice. The only thing that really galls me is GOP hypocrisy.
IllinoisBirdWatcher
(2,315 posts)Glad to hear you found a life partner and thanks for sharing your thoughts with me.
tRump reeks of hypocrisy in so many ways as do so many of the repugnants.
Hekate
(90,645 posts)Nothing need be said.
anamandujano
(7,004 posts)Island Blue
(5,815 posts)"Who the fuck is Gennifer Flowers?" Mark Cuban, they know.
GoCubsGo
(32,079 posts)When they go low, she'll go high.
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)If Trump mentions her -GF- then Hillary should ask him what is his point? Let Trump dig himself in!
mcar
(42,302 posts)Seriously?
FrenchieCat
(68,867 posts)In a multitude of threads is ridiculous! Folks are playing into Trump's reality game show stunt...
MADem
(135,425 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)...is that Trump cannot get into her head and she will not get into the gutter with him. That's how he shot down all his GOP rivals one by one.
By trotting out Bill Clinton's one-time paramour, DTs is trying to do both things at once to Hillary. Trump has no class, and Ms Flowers will only look pathetic for being used this way.
I am sure that Hillary Clinton will simply not acknowledge the presence of this woman. She has other fish to fry -- such as Putin this time next year.
Putin is another bastard who likes to get into people's heads. He found out that Angela Merkel is afraid of big dogs, so he has made a point of bringing his guard dogs into the same room with her. The photo illustrating this bit of gossip showed Merkel sitting absolutely rigid in her chair -- it was awful, once you knew what was going on.
Putin will think of something -- but Benedict Donald is not in the same league with that old KGB man.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)BootinUp
(47,141 posts)Monk06
(7,675 posts)MineralMan
(146,286 posts)Flowers has nothing to do with her candidacy.
JHB
(37,158 posts)If Flowers is there and she says boo about it, that will be all the media ding-dongs talk about for the next month.
"We have to talk about it, it's 'out there'."
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Trump excels at jerry springer drama. Let him keep it. Absolutely ignore it as if it doesn't exist.
AgadorSparticus
(7,963 posts)Debate and we need to issues that affect our nation".