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I knew Trump would cuck out (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Sep 2016 OP
I kind of figured she would get so much flack, she'd change her mind Siwsan Sep 2016 #1
It doesn't matter either way, because the key is that it shows Cuban lit his buttons yet again. Also OnDoutside Sep 2016 #10
They can intend that to happen until the moon turns turquoise, I don't think he's capable Siwsan Sep 2016 #13
I agree but I think Hillary has a challenge here in not appearing preachy. It's a difficult line to OnDoutside Sep 2016 #16
And I agree with you. It will be an exercise in verbal and facial expression tight wire walking Siwsan Sep 2016 #19
That's true. I think what has us all so jumpy is that we have all those "known knowns", OnDoutside Sep 2016 #22
Like Spock trying to debate someone who keeps screaming in his face. randome Sep 2016 #20
Yes and the media, who should know better, give him a points win ! OnDoutside Sep 2016 #24
Without A Teleprompter And Pre-Written Remarks For Trump.... global1 Sep 2016 #14
I really hope so, but the likes of Ailes will have known that and worked on keeping it simple for OnDoutside Sep 2016 #17
My guess at the back story why she's not coming. no_hypocrisy Sep 2016 #2
did they honestly believe that a woman doesn't age after 24 years? CTyankee Sep 2016 #5
Flowers stands to make more money, get on TV more, sell more books, etc. if HRC is elected. TheBlackAdder Sep 2016 #3
Trump promises a lot of things, but never delivers. Orsino Sep 2016 #4
THIS eShirl Sep 2016 #7
Awwww! They realized how tacky/sleazy/trash tv that would've been! Madam45for2923 Sep 2016 #6
I think most in the press would have... LenaBaby61 Sep 2016 #23
Further proof of his knee-jerk reactions which would jeopardize the US. MANative Sep 2016 #8
Can't begin to tell you how much I hate .. Jim Dandy Sep 2016 #9
It's classic abuse victim behavior. randome Sep 2016 #12
Too late now. He's already stepped in it and no amount of scraping gets this stink off his shoes. Arkansas Granny Sep 2016 #11
umm. I have not heard Donald say that-nor seen a tweet saying that. Has anyone? riversedge Sep 2016 #15
Useful article, if only for the insight into the mind of Mike Pence Bucky Sep 2016 #18
IF true and Flowers doesn't show after all... LenaBaby61 Sep 2016 #21

Siwsan

(26,251 posts)
1. I kind of figured she would get so much flack, she'd change her mind
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 09:44 AM
Sep 2016

But maybe the only semi-adult on the GOP ticket gave King Cheeto an ultimatum.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
10. It doesn't matter either way, because the key is that it shows Cuban lit his buttons yet again. Also
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:09 AM
Sep 2016

it might indicate that the Trump campaign intend for him to be "Presidential" for the 90 minutes, so they can then declare him to be the winner.

Siwsan

(26,251 posts)
13. They can intend that to happen until the moon turns turquoise, I don't think he's capable
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:15 AM
Sep 2016

When he goes off of bloviating mode, he becomes sullen, dull, totally off if his game and looks like he'd rather be anyplace else. A perfect example is his behavior in Flint, before, during and after he was reprimanded, in person, by a woman.

What I think will be interesting is his demeanor during the 3rd debate, when he faces a female moderator. If he lasts that long.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
16. I agree but I think Hillary has a challenge here in not appearing preachy. It's a difficult line to
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:21 AM
Sep 2016

walk.

Siwsan

(26,251 posts)
19. And I agree with you. It will be an exercise in verbal and facial expression tight wire walking
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:28 AM
Sep 2016

But, damn, Hillary is smart and savvy. I have no doubt she has spent a whole lot of time in rigorous debate rehearsals and will be bringing her brilliant "A" game to the podium.

Trump has never debated a female in a one on one situation. He is easily flustered and so easily slips back into bully mode.
She just doesn't appear to be someone who is easily flustered or intimidated.

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
22. That's true. I think what has us all so jumpy is that we have all those "known knowns",
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:38 AM
Sep 2016

her great knowledge and intellect, his shallowness and lack of temperament, yet this could go any way, as much due to perception as anything else.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
20. Like Spock trying to debate someone who keeps screaming in his face.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:33 AM
Sep 2016

"You, Sir, are being illogical."

"And you are a big, fat toad! So take that and shove it up your ass!"

"That...is...what?"

"Something wrong with your pointy little ears?"
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

global1

(25,225 posts)
14. Without A Teleprompter And Pre-Written Remarks For Trump....
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:17 AM
Sep 2016

there is no way he can remain 'presidential' for 90 minutes. This debate should be as entertaining as "Whose Line Is It Anyway".

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
17. I really hope so, but the likes of Ailes will have known that and worked on keeping it simple for
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:23 AM
Sep 2016

Stupid. The question is whether Holt will press him for more detail, or just let him off, in which case Hillary has to challenge Trump but can't appear too much like a "schoolmarm".

no_hypocrisy

(46,037 posts)
2. My guess at the back story why she's not coming.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 09:45 AM
Sep 2016

Trump made (another) hasty decision based on the assumption Gennifer Flowers had not aged a day since 1992 and still had the bimbo appearance that he finds attractive. Someone showed him a recent representation of her and he changed his mind as her appearance at the debate would not have the desired affect on Hillary, and more importantly, the media (which would be finding excuses to pan its cameras on her in the front row).

DISCLAIMER: I am a feminist and believe women shouldn't be judged on their age, weight, and/or appearance. I'm speculating based on how Trump thinks.

CTyankee

(63,893 posts)
5. did they honestly believe that a woman doesn't age after 24 years?
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 09:55 AM
Sep 2016

and what the hell is Mike Pence doing as DJ's little messenger?

Trumps camp is looking more disastrous every day...

LenaBaby61

(6,973 posts)
23. I think most in the press would have...
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:38 AM
Sep 2016

Eaten up a Flowers invite by Mr. Cheeto. However, if she's not been invited they can go back to their lack of fact-checking or correcting tRump's lies etc. again

MANative

(4,112 posts)
8. Further proof of his knee-jerk reactions which would jeopardize the US.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:00 AM
Sep 2016

The problem is, it's much harder to walk back a nuclear attack.

 

Jim Dandy

(358 posts)
9. Can't begin to tell you how much I hate ..
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:01 AM
Sep 2016

.. these people. Sometimes I don't know what is worse, the scum themselves or those who happily consume their lies.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
12. It's classic abuse victim behavior.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:10 AM
Sep 2016

The GOP knows they're being played by Trump. They know they've already lost the election. They know that all their money is going down the drain.

Yet they can't quite bring themselves to say it out loud. Even Lindsey Graham won't say what Trump is doing -stealing their money to line his own pockets. Graham's remarks are relegated to talking about policy positions. I guess that's a safer position to take than confronting the abuser directly.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Stop looking for heroes. BE one.[/center][/font][hr]

Arkansas Granny

(31,507 posts)
11. Too late now. He's already stepped in it and no amount of scraping gets this stink off his shoes.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:09 AM
Sep 2016

He looked petty and vindictive for tweeting the invitation in the first place, and now he looks gutless and scared if he rescinds the invitation. It seems his surrogates are scrambling to cover his ass on this one.

This move just adds weight to the claim that he is temperamentally unfit to hold office.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
18. Useful article, if only for the insight into the mind of Mike Pence
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:25 AM
Sep 2016
“Mark Cuban has been out there saying some pretty tough stuff about my running mate … [He] knows about as much about national security as I do about professional basketball.”


I am dumb about basketball, therefor Cuban must be dumb about politics. Cuban is conservative, but he's got a bright inquisitive mind and a functioning super-ego. I'd take him over Trump any day of the week.

LenaBaby61

(6,973 posts)
21. IF true and Flowers doesn't show after all...
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:35 AM
Sep 2016

I don't think her being @ the debate would have thrown Hillary off her game anyway. At this stage of their lives, and from what I feel both Bill/Hillary have moved on and have been focusing on things much more important in their lives than what happened in their marriage decades ago. At least I'd LIKE to think that is the case!

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