2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNazi Flag seen hanging with Trump Flag at Bloomsburg, PA Fair yesterday.
Last edited Mon Sep 26, 2016, 02:18 PM - Edit history (1)
The person who displayed the flag is not only a Trump supporter, but also a sex offender. Much more info here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141581613
Botany
(70,489 posts)Many people from PA died in WW 2 to get rid of the Nazis.
26,554 people from PA died in WW 2
http://www.history.army.mil/documents/misc/stcas.htm
Moostache
(9,895 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,988 posts)Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)Glassunion
(10,201 posts)I hate Illinois Nazis.
Agnosticsherbet
(11,619 posts)SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Siwsan
(26,259 posts)INdemo
(6,994 posts)and it is scary as hell to see how many actually support this Fascist..
Hitler was not elected but appointed to the office of Chancellor and then as his party gained strength the office of President of Germany was then dissolved and Hitler became the sole Dictator of Germany..
What is happening now with the huge following that Trump has, it is just scary as hell. Now I know,as many will say it would be impossible but hey look at what is happening now with the Corporate Support and the Corporate Controlled Media.
Is our Democracy really all that safe from those that would destroy it?
WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)But the question still remains as I have been asking for some time now, What to do about it?
How far out of our comfort zones are we willing to venture to change things?
INdemo
(6,994 posts)politicians sell their very soul to these "Greedy" corporations I am concerned about my Grandchildren and Great-Grandchildren.
What kind of world will they be living in?
WHEN CRABS ROAR
(3,813 posts)What to do about it?
Jerry442
(1,265 posts)... he did assume power through political processes that weren't seen to be aberrant (although sleazy perhaps) at the time and he was able to do so because of substantial public support.
Not unlike somebody else we've all heard of.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)(twice actually) becasue of some naive Democrats,election officials.Then some very good criminal organizing by Karl Rove and other Republican/political operatives?
Laser102
(816 posts)Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)William769
(55,144 posts)Unrepentant Fenian
(1,078 posts)narnian60
(3,510 posts)Hurts my heart.
Indydem
(2,642 posts)Really saddens me to see so many on here not even be able to see this for what it is.
That is a vendor at a fair. They have flags of all types. Nazi flags. State flags. Confederate flags. Gadsden flags. Sports team flags. I even saw a United Federation of Planets flag once. It's just a vendor.
You can see all the other flags on the left stacked up behind the swastika. There may even be a Hillary flag in there.
Someone could just as easily put a H-> flag where tRump's flag is.
But make hay while you can, right?
onehandle
(51,122 posts)And even if he wasn't, it would be a big fucking coincidence out of the all the many flags out there to be together.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141581613
Indydem
(2,642 posts)The OP could have been helpful and done that to start with.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Hopefully, everyone will simply forget you directly implied all on the thread are dishonest, as you flail in casting blame at the OP.
atreides1
(16,072 posts)And why would they have this particular flag first??? Why not the stars and stripes???
Maybe this particular flag is a big seller in that part of PA???
hatrack
(59,583 posts)No reason to be alarmed by all that smoke!
BTW, the registered sex offender who flew the flags did it for explicitly political purposes, per fair officials.
Fair officials also took prompt action after learning about the flag, said concessions clerk Barbara Belles. Someone apparently hung the flag sometime Sunday, and after learning about its placement organizers went out Monday morning to remove it, she said.
Security and the directors and other people did take care of it, Belles said. They confiscated (the flag). He will not get that back until Saturday at midnight when the fair closes down. If he does it again, hes going to be removed from the fairgrounds entirely.
The vendor, who was selling jewelry and related items, was apparently displaying the flags for political purposes, she said. Fair organizers recognize peoples right to express themselves and evaluate displays on an individual basis, she said.
In this case, organizers responding to complaints determined the swastika crossed the line, she said.
Read more: http://thetimes-tribune.com/news/nazi-flag-at-bloomsburg-fair-sparks-controversy-1.2095792
More on the vendor:
In addition to being a seller of Nazi flags, Betsinger is also a registered sex offender. In 2007, he was charged with more than 20 counts related to child pornography. He eventually entered a plea deal and was sentenced to probation. Hes required to be on Pennsylvanias Megans Law sex offender registry until the day he dies.
http://www.phillymag.com/news/2016/09/26/nazi-flags-at-bloomsburg-fair
Indydem
(2,642 posts)But the OP offered a picture with no link and no context. They have since added a link to the other DU story.
Thanks for "setting me straight."
Charles Bukowski
(1,132 posts)for mental gymnastics, your living room wall would be covered with them.
Indydem
(2,642 posts)Without any greater context than a picture (which is all the post was before the edit) it is a lot of assumptions.
In one of the stories, the vendor admits he has "Hillary for President" flags. I wasn't entirely wrong.
Of course, with the article link and added context, I am wrong and I admitted that.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)The backstory is that a racist asshole supports a disastrously unqualified buffoon for President of the United States, and rather than shying away from ugly associations with previous calls for racial or ethnic purity, this asshole embraces Nazi imagery wholeheartedly and is proud to broadcast his supremacist views.
Wait a minute--I guess the picture is shown in context after all.
lark
(23,091 posts)the Confederate flag. That would be the trifecta of ignorant Drumpf haters. Funny, these assholes will be the first to scream when a president Drumpf (shudder at the thought) ended overtime and min, wage protections and they can't pay their bills and lose their house. How stupid they are to vote for him because he's a cruel racist. Yes, he is that, but he will steal our $$ in a heartbeat and that's his plan. Take away the sanctions on Russia to increase his real estate business, drive the economy into the toilet then buy up all the real estate and sell it to Russians.
geardaddy
(24,926 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,414 posts)geardaddy
(24,926 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)Brother Buzz
(36,414 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 26, 2016, 03:55 PM - Edit history (1)
Unfortunately, I suspect Jake is a guest of the State at Joliet, again.
phallon
(260 posts)But a lot of PA transplants that moved to KY in the late 90's and early 2000's salted purple/blue KY into red, red, red.
They brought out the innermost racism and homophobia of my in-laws. Now my in-laws want to repent but the dye has been cast.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)different, depending on where you go, and in some cases that makes it easier to ignore.
It exists from sea to shining sea.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I hope American wakes up from the Hate radio/Fox news propaganda before it's too late.
3catwoman3
(23,971 posts)...of class and dignity. Trump, sex offender, and Nazi lover.
One stop shopping for depravity.
Urchin
(248 posts)Are they making a statement or are they a vendor displaying their wares, wares which include flags? What's been cropped out of the photo?
Are they a WWII memorabilia vendor of some kind?
napkinz
(17,199 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)I don't care what it makes me look like either saying so. Fuck 'em.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Outside of the South East portion of the state and a few other places, Pennsylvania is indistinguishable from the deep South.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)47of74
(18,470 posts)CJohnson_LS
(52 posts)These morons aren't even trying to hide it anymore. I wouldn't rule out Trump going full fascist at the debates, and doing a Hitler salute, while shouting "Sieg Heil!"
Sadly, the media will probably praise him for his "courage" to be so "Non-PC". They'll do anything to obtain higher ratings.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)know that somebody posted these 2 flags together to make Donald Trump and his supporters look bad. There's no way any of his supporters would ever condone the use of a Nazi flag. If you ignore the controversies and lies--I mean misstatements, he has run the most honorable campaign in history, and all of his supporters are just misunderstood and actually don't have a single racist or dishonest bone in their bodies.
lady lib
(2,933 posts)and I CANNOT BELIEVE that I now know that. Gross.