Morning Joe : Incredible

[OnDoutside]

Is anyone watching this shit ? Unbelievable bigging up of Trump, it's embarrassing. The only dissenting voice is Nicole Wallace ironically.

[underpants]

1. Caught the first minute. "Well....lots to get to today"

The headlines they showed were eat on Trump to say the least.

[global1]

2. Wow!!!! MJ & The Mika Are Really Spinning For The Donald....

are they for real? What debate where they watching. Change candidate?

[OnDoutside]

4. And Mika says she's voting for Hillary ? She's a disgrace.

[helpisontheway]

7. She is a liar. She will vote for Trump to make her boyfriend happy. Nt

[helpisontheway]

3. Are they saying he won? If so, they have lost a credibility. Nt

[OnDoutside]

5. They're saying she did brilliantly but Donald will go up in the polls after this ! Looks like Joe

was whispering in Mika's ear last night - what a poodle !

[RBInMaine]

6. If they are saying that, then they are complete and totally STUPID.

[helpisontheway]

8. Okay. Thanks. Nt

[JCanete]

55. Wait, what credibility did either of them ever have? And for what did they get it? NT

[spiderpig]

9. OMG here comes Kellyanne

I loathe that woman.

[bmstee01]

10. Fuck them! They're deplorable

I'm changing the channel

[beachbum bob]

12. media has to salvage trump's disaster...just saying

[OnDoutside]

15. Completely agree.

[One of the 99]

13. Guess this story is true

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/19/media/donald-trump-joe-scarborough-mika-brzezinski-peace-talks/

[OnDoutside]

16. It sure looks like it.

[Duckhunter935]

28. Indeed so

[LenaBaby61]

29. THIS....

They're back in tRump's saddle again ....

[Ligyron]

47. From the article: A "rumor" they're romantically involved?

They're totally doin it!

[spiderpig]

14. Tweety was gushing "shut out!" "home run" for Hillary on post-debate comments.

Mika's looking downward demurely and giving The Orange One all kinds of slack this morning.

Is she on the same stuff Sniffy was using last night?

[OnDoutside]

18. Yeah Tweety said that all the Republicans that he knew last night, where looking at their shoes i.e.

they knew Trump f**ked up.

[spiderpig]

19. Oh no she didn't - Kellyanne called Hillary "that woman" and a "gal"

Those are buzz words that annoy the hell out of me - as when customers over the years would call me "you people" when they were yelling at me for something I had no control over.

[riversedge]

17. Conway said he showed Tremendous Restraint!! Ha ha

[KewlKat]

32. I agree.....he managed to get off the stage without crapping his pants....Major restraint!

[duncang]

53. Are you sure?

I think his campaign had him wear depends because they knew he was going to fail. One on his bottom and one under his chin.

[OnDoutside]

20. 45 minutes into the show and NO Democrat to be seen !

[spiderpig]

21. Why aren't they commenting on the constant sniffing?

After all, Hillary's pneumonia was a crisis of seismic proportions.

[BumRushDaShow]

22. Because only "coughs" are cause for a media meltdown

"Sniffs" are what the coke-snorting bobble-heads on teevee consider "normal".

[OnDoutside]

24. Sniffs only draw attention to themselves

[BumRushDaShow]

25. As a sidenote

I watched it on CSPAN and apparently their audio feed wasn't capturing much of the sniffing and snorting. Am guessing the network audio feeds were rip roaring however, since the subject has been commented on almost universally across the pundits!

[OnDoutside]

23. Mika thinks Trump won !!! FFS

[RBInMaine]

26. Seriously? My god, if that's true ALL of her credibility is GONE. Gone, PERIOD. Fucking NUTS.

[One of the 99]

27. Maybe he promised her another pair of shoes

Or maybe people that openly cheat on their spouses stick together.

[Mamajami]

35. Mika isn't alone and she knows the thinking of a lot of bigots and uninformed people

I have been listening to some call in shows...they are out there and more angry than ever that they know in their hearts he blew it big time.

[OnDoutside]

37. But THEY are already on Trump's side. It's the undecided voter he needs to get to. And last night

will have helped her democrat support.

[spiderpig]

30. Hee - Did Steve Schmidt just say Trump made Palin look like Henry Kissenger?

[OnDoutside]

33. In fairness Schmidt has been pretty fair all summer. That was a great line.

[KewlKat]

31. that must have been one yuge come to Jesus meeting they had with drumpf a few weekends

back. Do yourselves a favor and put that show on ignore. It's just not healthy to watch. I don't know how Howard Dean has managed to be on there as often as he can.

We need a DRAFT JOY REID movement to get her to replace these losers on MJ.

[Walk away]

43. I think we need a "Clone Joy Reid" movement and have her (them) replace everyone on camera at MSNBC!

[KewlKat]

56. there are few in her category, but a few that are trying now....Lemon on CNN comes to mind

[Walk away]

61. Yes, but he has to play host to the idiot Trump surrogates...

it's not easy to watch sometimes.

[OnDoutside]

34. Where Mika completely misses the point is when she talks about what he has

brought to it all the times before, and that will swing people

BUT

those people who needed to be swung over to him, were unmoved previously. Nothing he did last night will move those voters to him, and if anything, will have moved some to Hillary. That's the key which has zoomed over her head.

[OnDoutside]

36. Joel Benenson just backed up what I said, it's a small group that he had to move (not the supporters

he ALREADY had), and he couldn't do it.

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

46. The other debates were all about

the small base of repubs that vote in the primaries.

[Justice]

49. Agree. Spoke to soft Trump supporter this am who said Debate is making her less supportive

of him. She is in North Dakota so on the one hand, it doesn't matter but on the other - if she is wavering on him, you can bet many other voters are as well.

[OnDoutside]

51. Great to hear.

[obamanut2012]

38. Nicole Wallace refused to vote for McCain because of Palin, remember

She and Steve Schmidt have some integrity.

[catbyte]

39. Mika certainy is a concern troll this morning.

[DarthDem]

40. I Just Watched the First "90 Minutes"

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Meaning, you know, about 50 minutes or so of content, deducting commercials. I never watch this show so it was interesting to me.

The mood started out weird and Scarborough really seemed subdued like he didn't quite know where to go. Mika had this downcast look on her face and claimed she was "afraid" that Trump would go up in the polls.

Then the guests and supporting players started to chime in. Willie Geist pretty clearly thought Trump did horribly. Barnicle said Hillary would go up in the polls. Even Halperin (!!) was complimenting Hillary and slamming Trump's performance. Jon Heileman (I probably misspelled that; sorry) from Bloomberg said Trump was terrible. Nicole Wallace, who had presumably slept on a cot or at a neighboring hotel for at most a few hours, started getting frustrated and saying that Trump was just awful. Later, she was replaced by Steve Schmidt, who just lit into Trump mercilessly and was also very impressed by Hillary's preparation; both Schmidt and Geist agreed that Hillary's preparation lay not just in recitation of facts, but the ability to pivot and think on her feet and respond to what Trump threw out, which by contrast he was completely unable to do. They agreed she was a skilled debater in that regard and had done well. Oh, Chuck Toad came in for (weirdly) one segment to dispense his usual "above it all" nonsense but also admitted that Trump was awful and unprepared. Schmidt said he thought a "2.3 percent polling average lead" for Hillary would go up by two points or so in the aftermath of the experience, and someone else commented that Gary Johnson voters would start abandoning their goofy (my word) protest vote stance and vote for Clinton. (On edit: this was Cilizza.)

I fast forwarded through Conway; I had no interest in her spin. Joel Benenson (Clinton strategist) was very relaxed, calm, and responded to everything thrown his way with well-reasoned arguments and points.

Eventually, at the 7:30 AM Eastern mark, Mika indicated that she seemed to be the only one who felt the way she did. She was definitely playing the concern troll role but was effectively - over several segments and in a polite way - completely shouted down by the rest of the panelists.

So all in all I would say the post-debate media spin is going our way early.

[Walk away]

42. That is a perfect description of what I saw on MJ this morning....

You nailed it! I also skipped Conway.

[DarthDem]

45. Thanks!

Good call on Conway. Oof.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

48. Same here though I did see Conway (can't help it-- it's like looking away from a car accident)

[BootinUp]

54. Nice report, Thanks!

[DarthDem]

58. You Got It

Happy to take one for the team!

[LaydeeBug]

41. I am not on twitter, but don the con ran a tweet about them saying they're sleeping together

and they are paying him back by puffing and puffing

[Thrill]

44. That's how you win the polls after debates. Spin

[CajunBlazer]

50. Why do you guys continue to watch that crap?!?!?!

CNN annalists, not the the surrogates, are all praising Hillary's performance and dumping on Trump - which is the only honest things to do given the performances we saw.

[Ligyron]

52. Believe it or not

CNN is actually reporting on how bad Trump did and conversely how well Hills did. Prepared, knew when to attack and baited Rump perfectly forcing his large ego to defend his wonderfulness all night. sniff, sniff

CNN now reporting OTOH about how unprepared and easily flustered the don was, how he forgot about the concept of pivoting and how, ironically, after accusing Hills of not having "stamina" these last couple weeks, he ran totally out of gas himself toward the end - devolving into some disjointed gibberish about Rosie and other nonsense. Guess from watching the commentary on Morning Blow and CNN that his coke buzz must have faded.

Maybe he should try crank next time?

I only watched the first 15 min on Bloomberg myself (looking for the vaunted fact-checking) after seeing how rude, mean and spiteful he was - interrupting her with Hills seemingly becoming a bit flustered herself. I see now that she wiped the floor with him just as I had hoped. Yeah, I turned it off thinking "this could be bad" and went to bed figuring I'd catch the highlights this am on the teevee and here on DU.

I think instead of smiling so much when he lied or insulted her that she should perhaps shake her head and roll her eyes more and even look a bit hurt, perhaps even gasping a little when he was particularly insulting.

I get she wants to look strong and like none of this bothers her one bit but to me it looks a bit strained and you can see it in her eyes. Not slamming her, or concern trolling, I'm with her all the way with my heart and pocket book but just what I think might work better then a constant strained smile when one can see in her eyes she doesn't really feel amused.

Can't wait for the next one! Can't wait to see what this performance does to the polls either.

[Blue Idaho]

57. More "Must Miss" programing from M$NBC... nt.

[LeftRant]

59. I thought for sure they were going to slam him. They've been down on him a LOT lately.

I was very surprised, though I understand Mika's hesitance to count him out. Look at last week...

[oasis]

60. Mika and Joe. I'm through with those fools.

Bon voyage turkeys.