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geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:33 PM Sep 2016

When Trump said that not paying taxes ‘makes me smart,’ undecided voters in N.C. gasped

CARY, N.C. — Donald Trump so captured Ron Townley’s attention as “an outsider ready to tear down the system,” just the one who might break the Washington logjam, the doer to build new airports and highways, that he was considering voting for him.

But Trump’s response Monday night when Hillary Clinton accused him of not paying a cent of federal tax left Townley appalled.

“That makes me smart,” Trump said, unapologetic and smiling, during the presidential debate.

That comment caused a gasp in the hotel conference room where Townley and a half-dozen other undecided voters in this battleground state were watching the debate.

“That’s offensive. I pay taxes,” said Townley, 52, a program director for a local council of governments.


...

The undecided voters gathered here Monday by The Washington Post were from all over the state; they were in Cary to attend a Rural Center conference, where gubernatorial and Senate candidates were among the speakers.

Each of the men and women said they had not yet found a candidate to rally around because they found fault with both. But after the debate, four of the six undecided voters said they now leaned toward Clinton after she showed mastery of the issues and appeared more presidential. A fifth voter declared himself essentially now in the Clinton’s camp: “After tonight, I think I am convinced, I will vote for Clinton,” said Rev. Kelly Andrews, a Baptist pastor from Tarboro.


Hint for Dumbass Donald: smart people don't brag to voters about how smart they are.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/a-lean-toward-clinton-among-one-group-of-undecided-north-carolina-voters/2016/09/27/ff271b2e-8469-11e6-92c2-14b64f3d453f_story.html

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When Trump said that not paying taxes ‘makes me smart,’ undecided voters in N.C. gasped (Original Post) geek tragedy Sep 2016 OP
Then he goes on with a laundry list of things that need to be done LisaM Sep 2016 #1
Yup do all that stuff and pay down the debt at the same time as cutting taxes for the wealthy Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2016 #5
That has been the standard Repub line for decades... Wounded Bear Sep 2016 #12
He's not as smart as he thinks he is Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2016 #2
Yes, he thinks it is dumb to pay taxes to support our government Zing Zing Zingbah Sep 2016 #6
Exactly Proud Liberal Dem Sep 2016 #13
he would certainly be happy to take home the salary for being president, while still not demigoddess Sep 2016 #15
NOBODY brags about not paying taxes. The_Casual_Observer Sep 2016 #3
And Leona Helmsley - didn't work out too well for her, either. Pathwalker Sep 2016 #9
With that line, he called every single one of his tax-paying supporters stupid. trotsky Sep 2016 #4
the "water cooler" topic at work today 0rganism Sep 2016 #7
The real reason he's not paying taxes is he's broke and living off borrowings. Foggyhill Sep 2016 #8
That's entirely possible TexasBushwhacker Sep 2016 #14
4 of 6 said they would vote for Hillary...2/3 for Hillary Stuart G Sep 2016 #10
Thank you we should stop calling Him smart...he's pretty stupid uponit7771 Sep 2016 #11
Smart like this? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2016 #16
Big question: Is Trump Pakled or Ferengi? Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #17

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
1. Then he goes on with a laundry list of things that need to be done
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:35 PM
Sep 2016

and that depend entirely on tax revenue (roads, police, teachers, bridges....)

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
5. Yup do all that stuff and pay down the debt at the same time as cutting taxes for the wealthy
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:46 PM
Sep 2016

Seems a little ridiculous. I suppose he thinks his global protection racket scheme is going pay for all of that.

Wounded Bear

(58,601 posts)
12. That has been the standard Repub line for decades...
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 03:03 PM
Sep 2016

cut taxes and increase expenditures, then blame the deficits and debt on Dems.

Perhaps some people are starting to realize what is really going on in the world around me.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,394 posts)
2. He's not as smart as he thinks he is
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:39 PM
Sep 2016

With a comment like that, he basically called everybody else dumb. Thank goodness for his lack of self control and "honesty".

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
6. Yes, he thinks it is dumb to pay taxes to support our government
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:57 PM
Sep 2016

and he is running to be President!!! WTF!!!

It is dumb to be honest and hardworking. It is smart to cheat and undermine our government... according to Trump. No one should vote for him for this comment alone. He thinks all honest people are suckers and they exist solely for him to con. It is apparent that his motivations are selfish. He is not a leader. He is looking out for himself.

demigoddess

(6,640 posts)
15. he would certainly be happy to take home the salary for being president, while still not
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 04:29 PM
Sep 2016

paying a cent of taxes toward the national budget.

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
9. And Leona Helmsley - didn't work out too well for her, either.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:21 PM
Sep 2016

She went to jail. "Only the little people pay taxes."

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
4. With that line, he called every single one of his tax-paying supporters stupid.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 01:40 PM
Sep 2016

So in that regard, it was probably the only time he didn't lie last night.

0rganism

(23,927 posts)
7. the "water cooler" topic at work today
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:01 PM
Sep 2016

so far, co-workers seem to think it's reasonable to try to minimize your overall tax burden, but moronic to brag about paying $0 to the fedgov, especially when you have such bold plans for deploying the military.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
8. The real reason he's not paying taxes is he's broke and living off borrowings.
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:12 PM
Sep 2016

But, he couldn't say that hmmm....

TexasBushwhacker

(20,144 posts)
14. That's entirely possible
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 04:24 PM
Sep 2016

My guess is that many of his businesses are underwater and unprofitable. Of course he still draws his salary, but there are enough deductions and depreciation for him to hit net zero or close to it. Of course the only thing he contributes is his "brand" and it's all financed with other people's money.

Stuart G

(38,414 posts)
10. 4 of 6 said they would vote for Hillary...2/3 for Hillary
Tue Sep 27, 2016, 02:27 PM
Sep 2016

In another thread about another group of undecided voters...about 2/3 also said they would go to Hillary....here is a link to that thread.... in the Video and Multimedia forum titled..
"Devastating video reveals how undecided voters reacted to Trump’s dismal debate performance "
It was a group that CBS News had brought in to observe and question right about the debate.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=402762

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