What they did when the debate was over said it all for me.

[TygrBright]

The debate ended. The families of the two debaters began streaming up to the stage.

Hillary Clinton, MY future President, walked over to the moderator, shook his hand, and thanked him.

THEN she went to embrace her daughter and her husband, and immediately they all turned to the audience, bent over the front row, smiling, shaking hands, exchanging comments and thanks.

The Nuclear Cheeto waited by his podium for the family, accepted their congratulations and homage, began to leave the stage with them, stopped himself, walked over to shake hands with the moderator, and left, surrounded by his posse.

That was actually the most revealing moment of the whole debate, to me.

analytically,
Bright

[mainstreetonce]

1. MSNBC

Caught a glimpse of a Trump family argument as they entered vehicles.

Apparently it included some "gestures"

[anamandujano]

8. Any more on this? It sounds interesting.

[mainstreetonce]

11. They only showed one quick picture

looked like Don arguing with his son in law.
They speculated it might be about the mic.
They sat around the table laughing about a gesture they couldn't show on TV.

[anamandujano]

14. Can you imagine what it must have been like to be around him last night.

[PJMcK]

26. Can you imagine what it must be like to be around him ever? (n/t)

[anamandujano]

31. True but it's worse when he's just had a catastrophic failure in front of millions.

[duncang]

18. Don't know if there is a video.

But on msnbc they had the group walking down toward the suv and the same stuff was going on as they were walking. They paused a few times there, then went by the suv doing the same thing. Would love to know how to read lips.

[Hekate]

22. Hubby and I saw that. Cameras were still on the family, arguing, clear profile of Donald...

What we both wanted to know is: Anybody who can lip-read help us out?

[tblue37]

32. I read lips pretty well--seriously hearing impaired, so I depend on it.

I wish I had seen the video of that.

BTW, I could read W's lips as he hugged the Obamas and said goodbye before getting into the helicopter on the day of Pres. Obama's inauguration. He said, "You're going to have the time of your lives, I promise."

To him, being president had been a lark, an opportunity to be at the center of attention and to get all sorts of perks, but since Cheney ran the show, it was fun for W, not work.

[duncang]

35. I tried a few variations

Of trump group arguing suv after debate, etc. And couldn't find a video.

But the group when leaving the debate paused a couple times along the covered walkway to the area the suv was at to talk. Plus the time just standing by the suv.

[unblock]

2. he also didn't thank the holt and hofstra at the beginning.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

4. Nor did he say anything about microphone until about 18 hours later. . . . nt

[unblock]

5. but whoever put that microphone in probably weighed 400 lbs.

[Generic Brad]

6. He complained about that within an hour

He was complaining to a CNN reporter about the mic within one hour of the debate ending. I still have no idea why he thinks his performance was sabotaged by a mic when we all heard him loud and clear.

[JoePhilly]

10. He's upset that his MIC was ON.

[Missn-Hitch]

15. LOL!

[anamandujano]

16. This. He might have fared better if we hadn't heard a word, but then

some remarked that turning off the sound showed him in a worse light.

That said, thanks for the laugh.

[lindysalsagal]

36. The mic was trying, unsuccessfully, to escape for its life.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

12. OK, thanks for the correction. . . . nt

[Hekate]

25. He kept leaning in to the damn mic to interrupt so he intended to be heard. Maybe he didn't think it

...would pick up his persistent sniffling the way it did, but the interruptions were completely intentional.

Maybe "Dr" Feelgood can give him something for those sniffles.

[tblue37]

33. Did he ever specify what he thought was defective about the mic?

(Other than the fact that it actually allowed people to hear the nonsense he was spouting, I mean.)

[BumRushDaShow]

3. Yup

most significant thing I saw at the debate end on the stage. He actually watched Hillary walk over to Lester to shake his hand and turned away to wait for his family to come up... and then as if he suddenly remembered the rehearsed protocol, he finally walked over and shook Lester's hand.

It's a learned habit - a power play. In his mind, Holt was supposed to come up to HIM to shake hands, not the other way around, so it was extremely awkward for him to have to initiate contact with someone who he considers "beneath" him. I expect he didn't bother during the primary debates because half the clown car filled the stage and he could slide away. But when you just have 2 debaters, both are in the spotlight.

[Bill USA]

7. he couldn't leave the podium, which he was hanging onto for support. HE left once buoyed by his

family standidng around him, protecting him, reassuring him. And then he beat a retreat, knowing he just has his head handed to him.

[Coyotl]

20. He had a bad case of PTSD as he left the stage ....

Post Tooting Sniffles Disorder and he may have nose dripped the microphone and it is Rosie's fault

And no one thanked him for being the leader of the birthers.

[JoePhilly]

9. He was shell shocked. Dazed and confused.

I noticed it right away.

It was as if the end caught him by surprise.

And he had no idea how he had ended up face down on the canvass.

[sorefeet]

13. Plus his diaper was full

He had to have a depends on, he must have drank a gallon of water in 90 minutes. He was a nervous wreck.

[MFM008]

19. On this

[Missn-Hitch]

17. Like JoePhilly said, "he was shell shocked".

Did anyone record the debate on MSNBC?

If so, go back and watch the Orange Menace ~60 seconds after the conclusion. He is speaking with one of his kids, the one with dark hair, the "trust me" guy. Anyway, you can see the Orange Menace lip the words while nodding his head, "yeah, she did a good job". I watched it twice to make sure and my lady agreed. Very telling and very unlike him.

It was great TV!!

[Coyotl]

23. Who here is a good lip reader? Here's the debate video:

[Missn-Hitch]

24. YES! It is on there. At 1:30:42. Thanks for posting!

[Barack_America]

34. PM it to trueblue37.

Apparently excellent in lip-reading.

[tblue37]

38. I just checked it---and he said, "Yeah, she did a good job." nt

[tblue37]

37. I am severely hearing impaired and rely heavily on lipreading. And that is exactly what he said,

"Yeah, she did a good job."

[Coyotl]

39. Thanks for the confirmation. So, Trump knew he had been devastated, then lied to everyone.

[4lbs]

21. Hillary and her group smiled afterwards, even while walking to their cars.

Trump and the Clan barely smiled at all, and supposedly Trump got into a little argument with his son-in-law and a female reporter.

[TonyPDX]

27. Trump ran for the nose candy.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

28. After that, Trump went to his hotel and did this...

[Chico Man]

29. It started similarly as well

Trump followed Clinton's lead in approaching Lester Holt and shaking his hand. He was deer in the headlights from the first minute.

[StepnKretchit]

30. I took note of that, too.

Hillary Clinton walked directly over to Lester Holt, shook his hand and proceeded towards the audience where she greeted her family and audience members. Lester Holt was expecting Donald Trump to follow Hillary's lead, but, of course, Donald has no grace. Lester was left hanging so he tried to play it off by scratching the back of his neck. Finally, Donald acknowledged Lester and shook his hand. Then Donald made a beeline over to his family. Melania was there, too.

While Hillary and her husband worked the crowd, Donald and them huddled on the stage looking awkward like they didn't know what they were supposed to do next. They all turned to look, forlornly, I might add, at the Clinton's and then they all left the stage.

When Donald and them got outside, Donald let loose on his son-in-law (whom I think has to call Donald 'Mr. Trump') although there was no sound. Donald was very upset about something.

But, yeah, people noticed.