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Monk06

(7,675 posts)
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 01:26 AM Sep 2016

Lesbians for Trump...seriously..

&feature=youtu.be

Found this on Education Action Group website a right wing Beck affiliate anti common core outfit. The link is youtube not the EAG site

Is this for real? I mean I'm pretty sure this woman is gay but is this a troll vid or was it high jacked

by Beck RW liberterians?

Bizarre
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Lesbians for Trump...seriously.. (Original Post) Monk06 Sep 2016 OP
I'm guessing TERFs Crash2Parties Sep 2016 #1
Thanks for the perspective I have lived in a gay neighbourhood for 35 years and have Monk06 Sep 2016 #2
Think Jews for Hitler. (Yes, there apparently were a small number.) - nt KingCharlemagne Sep 2016 #3
Most notably Alfred Rosenburg who was in charge of policy regarding the 'Jewish question' Monk06 Sep 2016 #4
Your post is a homophobic non sequitur... TeeYiYi Sep 2016 #15
(pssst. lesbian mom of a trans kid) I've yet to meet anyone like her who wasn't a TERF. Crash2Parties Sep 2016 #17
What does the random possibility of her being a TERF... TeeYiYi Sep 2016 #18
A: They tend to team up with conservative Christians / Republicans Crash2Parties Sep 2016 #20
To be fair Mook has been out since at least 2008 dsc Sep 2016 #21
Maybe she's perfectly fine with Trump sarae Sep 2016 #5
That is the nub of the question She seems to have an investment in the age question as well Monk06 Sep 2016 #6
Sorry gays can be racist ... I have faced bigot gays MyNameIsKhan Sep 2016 #7
Well, there's Milo too.... NT Adrahil Sep 2016 #8
Milo's a non-factor. Guy is the worst kind of maverick-- no loyalties, and makes money off pissing VulgarPoet Sep 2016 #10
yeah, my point was that being gay... Adrahil Sep 2016 #11
Oh aye, that's a given. VulgarPoet Sep 2016 #14
It must be TERRIBLE for her to be so Xenophobic.... yuiyoshida Sep 2016 #9
I guess there are doofuses in every demograhic/group Madam45for2923 Sep 2016 #12
I know one in real life cagefreesoylentgreen Sep 2016 #13
Look, racism trumps everything rusty fender Sep 2016 #16
Similar to Pro Gay Rights Pro Life men? senseandsensibility Sep 2016 #19

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
1. I'm guessing TERFs
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 01:33 AM
Sep 2016

Trans Exclusionary Radical Feminists - many of whom it seems are indeed very butch lesbians - have been known to team up with conservative Christians and by extension the GOP when any sort of discrimination protections for trans students are discussed. A few years back they went so far as to out/dox a minor to the point she ended up on suicide watch from the vitriol people sent her way. The most infamous one is a lawyer for a...payday loan company, just to let you know what kind of people they seem to be. And this year the GOP has made attacking trans students a part of their official party platform(s) as well as directed their lawmakers to create as many anti-trans laws as they could, in order to manufacture another fund and vote raising issue like marriage equality was in 2008 & 2012 (see the January GOP resolution, still up on their website). Meanwhile the DNC went so far as to have a trans woman speak at the convention and have made it clear that they will support equality laws.

Think of them as the very angry equivalent to the Log Cabin Republicans. There aren't many and they are extremists, but that's why they get noticed.

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
2. Thanks for the perspective I have lived in a gay neighbourhood for 35 years and have
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 01:42 AM
Sep 2016

many gay neighours and friends

I knew there was an under the surface tension between butch vs fem gay men and staight acting gays against trans but I was not aware that it led to these types of political contradictions

How any non hetero gender identifier could support Trump just baffles me

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
4. Most notably Alfred Rosenburg who was in charge of policy regarding the 'Jewish question'
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 01:59 AM
Sep 2016
https://www.google.ca/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=Jews+in+Hitler's+cabinet

But this is not comparable, at least in a modern context, but just as baffling

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
15. Your post is a homophobic non sequitur...
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 02:19 PM
Sep 2016

You've managed to singlehandedly hijack the OP and unfairly turn this thread into a referendum against butch lesbians.

There is absolutely nothing in that video to suggest that this woman is a TERF or that she has any problems with the transgender community, whatsoever.

Xenophobic, republican nut job? Yes. TERF? No. Not with the evidence at hand.

You should delete this homophobic screed and address the topic presented instead of the offensive leap of logic you've created.

TYY

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
17. (pssst. lesbian mom of a trans kid) I've yet to meet anyone like her who wasn't a TERF.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 06:12 PM
Sep 2016

Who knows? Maybe of all the LGBT people I've known, met, loved and heard of over the years, somehow my sampling was completely skewed. It's always a possibility. Still, just going by what I know, what I've experienced and what others have told me, it's highly probably that she's a TERF.

TeeYiYi

(8,028 posts)
18. What does the random possibility of her being a TERF...
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 07:36 PM
Sep 2016

...have to do with the OP? She's not attacking trans people. She's calling out and effectively outing a gay man for not sharing her political and xenophobic views. As despicable as she may very well be, you've chosen to create a narrative that clearly isn't being presented in the video.

Your post is pure conjecture that doesn't square with the facts. Despite what you may believe, not all butchs are TERFs. In fact, in my experience, the percentage has to be well below ten percent, if even that many. I've never actually met one in person and I've known and loved hundreds of gay women in my lifetime.

As the mother of a trans child, you obviously and understandably have a biased bone to pick with TERFs, but rather than hijack this thread, you should start one of your own.

TYY

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
20. A: They tend to team up with conservative Christians / Republicans
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 07:28 PM
Sep 2016

People who would - one would think - should be their political adversaries. Yet instead are their allies. And of the TERFs I've known over the years, not only a few vote Republican even if they are themselves LGBT and live in states where they don't have legal protections. But then again they also were raised in conservative, Republican families. Seems a pattern...

dsc

(52,130 posts)
21. To be fair Mook has been out since at least 2008
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 11:02 PM
Sep 2016

the woman is still a horror show but she didn't out him

sarae

(3,284 posts)
5. Maybe she's perfectly fine with Trump
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 02:08 AM
Sep 2016

being disgustingly racist because she's white. And maybe she's even fine with his blatant misogyny, even though she's a woman. But if she truly cares about gay rights as she claims, how in the hell can she be ok with his homophobic VP pick?!?!

Monk06

(7,675 posts)
6. That is the nub of the question She seems to have an investment in the age question as well
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 02:18 AM
Sep 2016

as in if you are gay and never went through the AIDs holocaust and weren't around for Stonewall then you should STFU

But expressing that anger by voting for Trump reveals a deeper dilemma

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
10. Milo's a non-factor. Guy is the worst kind of maverick-- no loyalties, and makes money off pissing
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:07 AM
Sep 2016

EVERYBODY off.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
11. yeah, my point was that being gay...
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:20 AM
Sep 2016

does not necessarily mean someone gives a shit about anyone else, or is even socially progressive.

Almost all the gay folks I know are VERY supportive of transgender people, but I know one who is a complete ass. She thinks transgender people are "frauds," and tends to be very economically conservative.

VulgarPoet

(2,872 posts)
14. Oh aye, that's a given.
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 12:47 PM
Sep 2016

I can't say I know any gay folk like that-- but that's also because my fiancée and I started dating a transgendered person; and I make it a point to cut ties with anyone I know who expresses trans-exclusionary tendency. I have neither the time or temperament for those kinds of people.

yuiyoshida

(41,762 posts)
9. It must be TERRIBLE for her to be so Xenophobic....
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 10:04 AM
Sep 2016

For someone who has learned the lessons of being Discriminated against, she has SURE AS HELL not learned her lesson. ALL MUSLIMS are Terrorists? ISIS coming to kill you? ... Wow, lady. You HAVE SOME SERIOUS issues!

and I am bisexual, I am allowed to say so!

13. I know one in real life
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 11:49 AM
Sep 2016

Lesbian, black, says Fox News is "too liberal" for her. Unrepentant and completely unreachable Trump supporter.

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
16. Look, racism trumps everything
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 02:30 PM
Sep 2016

Anyone who votes for Trump is a racist, as is this woman.

The reality is, is that Trump is the anti-Obama. Trump's support is the racist and he never would have gained any traction if it hadn't been for his pushing of the birtherist racist crap.

senseandsensibility

(16,713 posts)
19. Similar to Pro Gay Rights Pro Life men?
Wed Sep 28, 2016, 07:41 PM
Sep 2016

I once knew a colleague who printed that on his business card. Wanted full marriage rights and civil rights for himself as a gay man, but wanted women to be forced to carry babies to term regardless of the circumstances. And he was so proud of it he printed it on his business card.

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