2016 Postmortem

DetlefK

(16,423 posts) Wed Sep 28, 2016, 04:06 AM Sep 2016

Unable to spin a Trump-victory, Russia Today declares the whole debate to be bad.

https://www.rt.com/op-edge/360824-trump-clinton-debate-us/

“They have a few pro-Trump voices, but pretty much the CNN as a network is for Clinton – just like Fox is for Trump. They are not really media outlets; they are echo chambers for the respective political campaign,” he told RT.

“The debate showed how vapid, how sensationalized, how empty the American political election cycle is – very expensive, but very long, and very empty. Both of them tried to outdo each other to show who had more support from the generals and admirals. It is not a good harbinger of where things are going in terms of American politics,” Becker said.

Ahead of the election, Clinton and her supporters have been repeatedly using anti-Russia rhetoric and accusing Trump of being “unwitting agent” of President Putin and posing a threat to “US national security.” On Monday, Clinton played her Russian card again to attack her opponent.

Well, what exactly are the charges that lead to these accusations against Trump? Why do these stupid Democrats keep talking about that Trump is in bed with Russia? Somehow RT doesn't tell.

“The attack on Russia, the attempt to blame Russia for all things, including for the hack of the DNC [Democratic National Committee] files that showed the DNC was violating its own rules and trying to tilt the election for Clinton, which happened on the first day of the Democratic national convention. Russia became a convenient punching bag, so that the Democratic Party could divert attention from its own wrongdoing. But it’s manifested itself into something more than just a diversion,” he said.

“Clinton has the support of all of the neoconservatives: Robert Kagan, husband of Victoria Nuland; a hundred of Republican foreign policy elites. I think they represent the mainstream Washington consensus, which is the consensus of the military industrial complex, which wants to incentivize American public opposition or even hatred toward Russia as a pretext for building up the military armaments business. The expansion or escalation of tension with Russia is very good for the arms business, very good for the military industrial complex. So it is not just electoral politics. I think this is the Hillary Clinton presidency we see in the making. If she is elected, I think this bodes very badly for US- Russian relations,” Becker added.

Well, first it's just some of the old-school Republicans who support Clinton. Not all old-school Republicans and certainly not all Neoconservatives.
Second, why are they supporting Clinton? Could it be that Trump is simply an awful choice? Somehow RT doesn't tell...

“It really shows the emptiness of the campaign.”

Trump and Clinton “can keep exchanging attacks against each other, and they are right, because both are corrupt, both are dirty dealing here,” Becker said. “But again, it doesn’t speak to the substantial issues in America. One out of every two Americans is now either in poverty or near poverty; that did not get discussed in the debate.”

Both sides do it. And the US are simply a horrible place to live.

“Many Americans have now come to the conclusion that the debates - while interesting and in some ways entertaining - are certainly lacking in the sort of having the wider perspective that other parties can provide,” he told RT.

Can't argue with that.
Except that it's hard to be a moderate fringe-party because all moderate voters are already going to the two big parties.
And except that the US-election-system is simply not capable of handling more than 2 parties in a fair manner. Once that gets reformed, other parties will come by naturally.

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Summary:
Clinton is under control of the US Military, Clinton will worsen US-Russia-Relations, Clinton and Trump are equally bad and the US is simply a horrible place to live.

The ANSWER Coalition describes itself as anti-imperialist and consists of people from the leftist fringe. I wonder if they are influenced by the phenomenon that far-lefts tend to reflexively side with anybody who is opposed to the US.