*******SOME GOOD POST DEBATE SWING STATES POLLS FOR HILLARY*****

[DemocratSinceBirth]

Clinton Leads in Key Battlegrounds; Seen As Big Debate Winner

New Public Policy Polling surveys in Colorado, Florida, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Virginia, conducted on behalf of VoteVets Action Fund, find Hillary Clinton leading in each state. Voters in all five states see Clinton as having been the runaway winner of Monday night’s debate, and they question Donald Trump’s temperament and preparedness for office.

Clinton has solid leads in Colorado, Pennsylvania, and Virginia- states seen as important to her path to 270 electoral votes- and modest leads in Florida and North Carolina, where wins would be indicative of a dominant overall victory in the Electoral College. If these results hold up, Donald Trump has no path to victory:

State

4 Way Horse Race

2 Way Horse Race

Colorado

Clinton 46, Trump 40, Johnson 6, Stein 2

Clinton 51, Trump 44

Florida

Clinton 45, Trump 43, Johnson 3, Stein 1

Clinton 48, Trump 45

North Carolina

Clinton 44, Trump 42, Johnson 7

Clinton 49, Trump 45

Pennsylvania

Clinton 45, Trump 39, Johnson 6, Stein 2

Clinton 49, Trump 44

Virginia

Clinton 46, Trump 40, Johnson 7, Stein 1

Clinton 49, Trump 43


http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2016/09/clinton-leads-in-key-battlegrounds-seen-as-big-debate-winner.html

[DeminPennswoods]

1. couple points

McMullin is on the ballot in Colo and Va. I'm guessing he'll actually take more votes from Johnson and perhaps Stein than he does from the other 2. McMullin gives disaffected Rs an honest conservative candidate for whom to vote.

The story about Trump circumventing the Cuba embargo is likely to hurt him FL where the older Cubans are the staunchest Republican Hispanic voters. They hate Castro and are the main reason the embargo lasted as long as it did.

[Cosmocat]

11. Cuba issue

What we have seen generally with republicans and see more so than ever with this blovating POS is that he can literally piss on people who commit to him and they will stick behind him.

I don't expect any kind of HUGE swing, but as close as Florida can be, I hold out hope that there will be SOME Cuban supporters that will find this detestable enough to move away from him and help to get Hillary where she needs to be there.

[NewJeffCT]

20. yes

look at Chris Christie - Trump pisses on him all the time and passed him over for VP - yet, Christie is still one of his top surrogates.

[NoGoodNamesLeft]

32. The Newsweek article about Cuba will definitely hurt him with Florida Cubans

They do tend to be conservatives but Cuba issues come before all else. Trump not only did business with Castro in secret but he spoke to the Cuban Americans promising he would not do what he had already done. He betrayed them about the issue that is the most important to them. Now only will they never forgive him for that...they will do everything in their power to make sure he loses.

[piechartking]

2. Yee-haw n/t

[LenaBaby61]

3. Thanks DemocratSinceBirth...

This is is good news (Even though I haven't checked the internals yet--PPP will always be such an odd polling outfit to me. But anyway ).

Headed off to start phone banking in another state today even with the "good" poll numbers. MUST stay on the attack as if behind by 10 points. I need some hot tea to stay awake though

[Coolest Ranger]

4. How is she doing in Ohio? n/t

[Adrahil]

5. Good stuff there!

Let's keep the momentum going!

[Sancho]

6. You would think that this would put the 538 prediction over 60% again...

good news!

[George II]

31. She's over 60% in all three of their categories:

Polls Plus - 60.7
Polls Only - 62.2
Nowcast - 69.3

[stonecutter357]

7. K&R!

[barbtries]

8. one of my co-workers who i would have sworn would vote for trump

told me sadly yesterday he's not sure he can vote for anyone. trump is defeating himself, and he cannot help it. i feel a little better since monday...now we just need to GOTV!!!

[alcibiades_mystery]

10. Hillary is defeating Trump

[barbtries]

13. my point is that

for some people such as my co-worker there is pretty much nothing Hillary can do to gain their support, but trump is doing much to lose it.

[alcibiades_mystery]

14. Trump keeps stepping in it because Hillary is beating the shit out of him

His moronic debate performance was largely due to the fact that Clinton knew exactly the kind of shit heel he was, and baited him into acting a fool on stage. The negative ads are dropping body blow after body blow to his rib cage, forcing him to pull his idiotic "restrained" rhetoric, which, of course, he's too stupid and inexperienced to play correctly. These aren't merely Trump failings. They are the effects of a brilliant political campaign systematically taking Trump apart.

He's beating himself, even among your friends, because Hillary is beating him.

[riversedge]

9. YOU Go Gal!!! Take that Donny...

Yes, I will gloat a bit.

[Scurrilous]

12. K & R

[Adrahil]

15. FL tips blue again at 538.

That's what I like to see!!

[George II]

16. Looking good, but we still have two more debates to go. I don't understand why....

...pollsters insist on releasing both sets of numbers (4-way and 2-way). Those two nutcases are in it to the end, the 2-way polls are pointless.

These results are what many of us expected after that excellent debate on Monday.

[Johnny2X2X]

19. Not True

the Two way poll is closer to what will happen than the 4 way poll. It would be surprising if Johnson got more than 3-4 points and Stein 1. They poll way higher than what they'll get on election day. So the margins in the 2 way are more predictive.

[NewJeffCT]

22. good point

3rd party candidates typically poll higher over the summer, but then fade as it gets closer to election day.

That said, about every 20 years, a 3rd party candidate does get a decent amount of the vote on election day - 1992 and 1996 was Ross Perot. In 1968, it was George Wallace. In 1948, it was Strom Thurmond getting 39 electoral votes.

[Johnny2X2X]

25. Johnson takes as much from Trump as Hillary

Johnson voters are split 50-50. Johnson hurts Trump as much as Hillary. Stein takes exclusively from Hillary and she might not get 1% on election day. The 2 way is a more accurate predictor.

[Johnny2X2X]

28. Johnson takes as much from Trump as Hillary

Johnson voters are split 50-50. Johnson hurts Trump as much as Hillary. Stein takes exclusively from Hillary and she might not get 1% on election day. The 2 way is a more accurate predictor.

[alcibiades_mystery]

27. The four way polls are actually pointless

We know what those two nutbags will end up with: Stein in the .5 or less area, and Johnson in the 1.75-2.25 area, although is bizarre antics the last few days may drive him lower. Any poll that shows the two major party candidates with less than 94-96% of the vote combined is silly and not at all a reflection or prediction of actual election day results.

For reference, Ralph Nader got only 2.75% in 2000, and that was a campaign much more visible, popular, and better financed than the Stein and Johnson nonsense combined.

Wait, wait, it's "different this year" because people don't like the major party candidates! Bullshit. It will be exactly the same.

[Cary]

17. She certainly outperformed all of the Klown Kar Krazies

Especially the allegedly sane Jeb. What does that tell us?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

18. It took a Democratic woman to do the job that 16 Republicans failed to do. . . . nt

[Cary]

33. True

I think it's further evidence that all of the atrocious things that have been said about Hillary Clinton are untrue and unfair and unjust. Add it to the mountain of evidence against Republican smears, lies, and stupidity.

[Saviolo]

21. And the new debate conspiracy theory on the fringe right:

That when Hillary was scratching or touching her face, she was signalling to Lester Holt that she wanted the floor. I'm not even kidding, apparently she and Lester Holt had worked out in advance that when she wanted to speak she would look at him and scratch her face.

The Trumpers just can't stand losing, they have to blame everyone but the person who completely fell apart on that stage: Trump. After Hillary poked his pressure points, he spent a good 15 minutes punching himself in the face.

[NewJeffCT]

23. So, a registered Republican like Holt would bow to Clinton's whims?

wow...

[Saviolo]

24. And, like, get together ahead of time and plan

You can't just give someone signals without organizing in advance what those signals are going to mean and what actions to take. I'm sure we'll see photoshopped "evidence" of Holt meeting with Clinton over dinner or something.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

34. Yes, because he is paid off by Soros ...

... according to the nuts at the FReak site and other places.

Soros is the all-purpose bogeyman who has bought off everybody. Did you know that Obama is just his puppet? Did you know that Soros' plan is to flood the country with Mexican and muslim immigrants and muslim refugees so that he can get sharia law introduced and take control of the entire US government?

[NewJeffCT]

35. The funny thing is

while Soros has given big money to Democrats or progressive causes a few times, the Right Wing has a whole slew of active billionaires whose combined donations swamp Soros, and they do it regularly... not just the Koch Brothers, but who remembers Richard Mellon Scaife and his family? How about Sheldon Adelsen? The Walton family has given to many RW causes as well... you know the Wal-Mart fortune people?

[mcar]

26. K&R

[Cracklin Charlie]

29. I am loving these numbers.

[Cairycat]

30. K & R just for the song n/t

[Lifelong Protester]

36. K & R

Good news and love the video!

[George II]

37. 538's three % as of noon today - moving back up for us:

Polls Plus - 63.2%
Polls Only - 65.8%
Now Cast - 75.1%