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madaboutharry

(40,185 posts)
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 03:30 PM Sep 2016

Trump surrogates messing up message on Cuba.

There is something very bad here for Trump. The Newsweek story is a serious issue.

First, this morning on The View, Kellyanne Conway admitted money was spent in Cuba.

Just now, on MSNBC, Steve Cortes said "Well, are we really going to hold it against him if he technically broke the law? He only wanted to be ready if things changed so he could build beautiful golf courses, hotels, and create jobs for the Cubans...'

Kate Snow: "So, if he broke the law he shouldn't be held accountable?"

Steve Cortes: "No, I don't think so."


They live on another planet!

On edit: It was also set up so the money spent there looked like charitable giving.

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Trump surrogates messing up message on Cuba. (Original Post) madaboutharry Sep 2016 OP
Wow! So they admit he broke the law! Farmgirl1961 Sep 2016 #1
Yes, they admitted he broke the law NastyRiffraff Sep 2016 #24
He wanted to be ready... CincyDem Sep 2016 #2
Guess laws don't apply to Mr. Law & Order Madam45for2923 Sep 2016 #3
"Something she is afraid to mention, Law and Order." This, after Hillary meticulously outlined anamandujano Sep 2016 #9
Neither does Order underpants Sep 2016 #10
Only good laws, the best laws... Shrike47 Sep 2016 #22
So they admit Trump is a crook UCmeNdc Sep 2016 #4
I remember Nixon Arneoker Sep 2016 #16
I remember Dick Nixon the same way. I hated that sob with a passion, but he knew government... Hekate Sep 2016 #20
WOW. That dismantles their argument pretty well... Adrahil Sep 2016 #5
"...are we really going to hold it against him if he technically broke the law?" yellowcanine Sep 2016 #6
create jobs for the Cubans...' In 1999 under Fidel Castro? Really? He said that? yellowcanine Sep 2016 #7
It's OK if it's Trump breaking the law because he makes beautiful golf courses? herding cats Sep 2016 #8
The golf course industry is hurting too underpants Sep 2016 #11
They figure White Privilege or White Collar Privilege will protect Mr Law & Order from the Law. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #18
So, I guess they'd say Pablo Escobar was just trying Tanuki Sep 2016 #12
Man, you just can't make this stuff up!! Coventina Sep 2016 #13
OK... jaxind Sep 2016 #14
Trump would be the first President to pardon himself for previous crimes and treason. nt TeamPooka Sep 2016 #15
What part of illegally dealing with Cuba do they not understand? Arneoker Sep 2016 #17
Just like HBO's "Game Change" BumRushDaShow Sep 2016 #19
They knew it was illegal, but they wanted to get the jump on competition CanonRay Sep 2016 #21
But the surrogates seem to have missed (or are intentionally misconstrewing) the reason Grammy23 Sep 2016 #25
Yeah, if you take a contract for killing, it's AOK if you decide not to do it... Foggyhill Sep 2016 #27
They'll blame it on someone who isn't rich. C Moon Sep 2016 #23
There should have been a follow up question. PoindexterOglethorpe Sep 2016 #26
this morning's tweetstorm is his way of trying to distract the media from this and other damaging napkinz Sep 2016 #28
ODonnell caught Kellyanne admitting same on the View Gabi Hayes Sep 2016 #29

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
24. Yes, they admitted he broke the law
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 06:55 PM
Sep 2016

but that's okay! Basically, they're just repeating Trump's own words: "That's business," to justify egregious behavior and in this case outright criminality.

We keep saying it, but really: what if Hillary did anything close to this?

CincyDem

(6,336 posts)
2. He wanted to be ready...
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 03:35 PM
Sep 2016


...I'm sorry, did you say "he wanted to illegally front run the competition who were adhering to the federal ban on dealing with Cuba".

I guess that's Donald's version of winning. The end justifies the means.

What an asshat.

anamandujano

(7,004 posts)
9. "Something she is afraid to mention, Law and Order." This, after Hillary meticulously outlined
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 03:53 PM
Sep 2016

her approach to try to heal the racial transgressions of the police.

Arneoker

(375 posts)
16. I remember Nixon
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 05:47 PM
Sep 2016

Mr. "I am not a crook" was a paragon of virtue compared to little Donnie.

Back in 1974 I never would have predicted that I would ever say something like that.

Hekate

(90,550 posts)
20. I remember Dick Nixon the same way. I hated that sob with a passion, but he knew government...
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 06:08 PM
Sep 2016

...opened China, passed the EPA...

The GOP has done little but slide into the Abyss since Nixon. Every time I think they can't possibly get worse, they do.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
5. WOW. That dismantles their argument pretty well...
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 03:39 PM
Sep 2016

So.... the Law and Order candidate broke the law.... more than once. It looks like a habit.

AND.... he gets his crowd all fired up by saying that Hillary should be in jail, despite the fact the FBI concluded there was no prosecutable case.

But El Trumpster "technically" violates the law, but he should not be held accountable. Delicious.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
6. "...are we really going to hold it against him if he technically broke the law?"
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 03:40 PM
Sep 2016

I have a traffic court hearing tomorrow morning. One of those, "Yes I admit the infraction, but want to offer the judge an explanation so he hopefully will only fine me and not put any points on my driver's license." Maybe I should try out that explanation. - Nah, better not.

yellowcanine

(35,693 posts)
7. create jobs for the Cubans...' In 1999 under Fidel Castro? Really? He said that?
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 03:45 PM
Sep 2016

Holy shit. These guys are not helping Trump at all. I swear, this is the most incompetent Presidential campaign, top to bottom, in my lifetime. And I am 65 years old.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
8. It's OK if it's Trump breaking the law because he makes beautiful golf courses?
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 03:51 PM
Sep 2016

Seriously, that's their plan of defense on this very real issue?

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
12. So, I guess they'd say Pablo Escobar was just trying
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 04:44 PM
Sep 2016

to get ready in case the U.S. drug laws changed....

Arneoker

(375 posts)
17. What part of illegally dealing with Cuba do they not understand?
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 05:51 PM
Sep 2016

Not that I think that our laws concerning Cuba are all that smart, even though I despise the Castro tyranny. But here we have a candidate who has broken the law, who is making a big deal about Hillary's (non-)breaking of the law.

BumRushDaShow

(128,436 posts)
19. Just like HBO's "Game Change"
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 06:01 PM
Sep 2016

gave us some hints at the behind-the-scenes meltdowns by the Mclame & Caribou Barbie campaign staff, it will be interesting to see what they come up with for this campaign!

[font size="1"](of course he would probably sue if they tried so he could create his own fantasy version of the campaign )[/font]

CanonRay

(14,083 posts)
21. They knew it was illegal, but they wanted to get the jump on competition
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 06:10 PM
Sep 2016

so they did it anyway, and hid it as charity work. Sounds like a crime to me.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
25. But the surrogates seem to have missed (or are intentionally misconstrewing) the reason
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 07:41 PM
Sep 2016

The trip was illegal. The law says you had to have permission to go and it had to be for humanitarian or charitable purposes. That trip was neither and they certainly didn't get permission to go. But because they ultimately scrapped plans to invest in Cuba, the surrogates are trying to excuse the technicalities they failed to meet. As if that didn't matter. They made that trip on their own, without proper authorization but we're supposed to forgive him because they decided not to do business in Cuba at that time. Give me a break.

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
27. Yeah, if you take a contract for killing, it's AOK if you decide not to do it...
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 08:05 PM
Sep 2016

That's how it goes in bizarro world.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
26. There should have been a follow up question.
Thu Sep 29, 2016, 07:58 PM
Sep 2016

"Why exactly do you think he shouldn't be held accountable?"

And then maybe link him to the lawless people he wants to forceably deport.

napkinz

(17,199 posts)
28. this morning's tweetstorm is his way of trying to distract the media from this and other damaging
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 12:16 PM
Sep 2016

stories

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
29. ODonnell caught Kellyanne admitting same on the View
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 07:04 PM
Sep 2016

last night's show via tape. he hit her hard for being an incompetent lawyer, letting slip he spent money there.

and are they talking about it at ALL tonight?

what do you think?

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