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randr

(12,411 posts)
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:54 PM Sep 2016

Biggest suckers of 2016 election---Millennials

Watching MSNBC in Nevada interviewing young voters.
They will vote to legalize pot, won't vote for Hillary, and may vote for Johnson.
Hillary has stated she would move pot from Shedule 1 drug list
Johnson is supported by the Kochs and in all reality will never affect any issue on the planet
http://www.salon.com/2016/09/30/meet-gary-johnsons-koch-network-money-men-throwing-your-vote-and-values-away_partner/
With the stakes so high I thought for sure these kids were our hope for a brighter future.

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Biggest suckers of 2016 election---Millennials (Original Post) randr Sep 2016 OP
I call it the Soboroff Special RonniePudding Sep 2016 #1
Oh him. He picks out anti-Hillary people no matter what OKNancy Sep 2016 #11
I'm a baby-boomer and I feel depressed and embarrassed about my generation Vogon_Glory Sep 2016 #2
Boomer here too. My parents made sure that all seven of us kids went to school and tried. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #7
People are genetically wired conservative or liberal Hortensis Oct 2016 #46
Now sit back and watch them pile onto you now. tonyt53 Sep 2016 #3
He's also revealed himself to be a stooge RonniePudding Sep 2016 #5
Don't lump all of us in Skoods Sep 2016 #4
++ I'm a premature millennial; Born 40 years too soon. Xipe Totec Sep 2016 #12
The ones who are voting for BlueMTexpat Sep 2016 #6
I certainly hope you are right randr Sep 2016 #8
Then whatever they say, BlueMTexpat Sep 2016 #13
My Three Millenial Kids Backed Bernie and Now Support Hillary 100% malchickiwick Sep 2016 #9
Good for them and BlueMTexpat Sep 2016 #14
Thank You!! malchickiwick Sep 2016 #22
Why so annoyed when Bernardo de La Paz Sep 2016 #10
I saw yesterday johnson had 24% support in Colorado DrDan Sep 2016 #15
Which is strange since it's legal there already. yeoman6987 Sep 2016 #23
A Trump victory would put Christy in the AG spot randr Sep 2016 #40
Never mind what you "think". Have you got a link? Wilms Sep 2016 #28
My millennial daughter can't even talk about Trump. Cracklin Charlie Sep 2016 #16
This Millenial doesnt appreciate retrowire Sep 2016 #17
Yeah, I saw that. LisaM Sep 2016 #31
i blame no entire generation retrowire Sep 2016 #38
Yep..... LisaM Sep 2016 #39
good to hear! retrowire Sep 2016 #41
Who are you voting for? n/t seaglass Sep 2016 #33
Lay down your torch. retrowire Sep 2016 #37
You seem to change your mind depending on your audience. So that is a yes, you're voting seaglass Sep 2016 #43
actually who I'm voting for depends on retrowire Sep 2016 #44
You know what? Screw Salon! There was no lie about HRC they wouldn't publish. BobbyDrake Sep 2016 #18
Here effing here The Polack MSgt Sep 2016 #25
Yet they still Turin_C3PO Sep 2016 #19
Don't be disrupting the generation war and blame game with no stinkin' facts! TheKentuckian Sep 2016 #20
I'm starting to wonder about the people of Nevada BadDog40 Sep 2016 #21
That 30% number is inaccurate ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #27
So sad to see how people use age groups against age groups. NCTraveler Sep 2016 #24
Need to get some famous millennials out there promoting Hillary's message. UCmeNdc Sep 2016 #26
Like Beyoncé, Estelle, ColemanMaskell Sep 2016 #29
Trump is actually winning Baby Boomers taught_me_patience Sep 2016 #30
In some ways, I think some of the Bernie holdouts/Stein supporters are worse than Trump voters Rocknrule Sep 2016 #32
An old friend posted an image on FB that said HRC was a "war criminal." So tempted to ask why... LeftRant Sep 2016 #34
Both of my kids are Millenials and will be voting Hillary. They actually follow politics and seaglass Sep 2016 #35
My adult son, a Millennial in NM and former Berner, will vote for Hillary. So will his friends. ancianita Sep 2016 #36
lol... you said it... Joe941 Sep 2016 #42
This is nonsense, Milennials are Clinton's strongest age group by far CreekDog Oct 2016 #45
 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
1. I call it the Soboroff Special
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:55 PM
Sep 2016

That weasel hadn't interviewed more than a handful of pro Hillary voters the entire cycle.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
11. Oh him. He picks out anti-Hillary people no matter what
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:07 PM
Sep 2016

Pro Hillary are either not interviewed or left on the cutting room floor

Vogon_Glory

(9,117 posts)
2. I'm a baby-boomer and I feel depressed and embarrassed about my generation
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:57 PM
Sep 2016

We thought we were going to change the world for the better, and our peers went and voted for the baggers.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
7. Boomer here too. My parents made sure that all seven of us kids went to school and tried.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:01 PM
Sep 2016

Mom took us to church, and we learned religion there. We didn't need it at our public school. Our parents stayed involved in our school lives and encouraged all to participate in school activities, like band and sports. Those boomer baggers you referenced? Their parents did not care. They sent them to school because they had to and that was the only contact they had with their schools. The boys dropped out at 16, farted around until they were 18, then went to work where their fathers worked. The girls dropped out of school and got married as soon as they could and started popping out kids.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
46. People are genetically wired conservative or liberal
Sat Oct 1, 2016, 10:52 AM
Oct 2016

from the beginning, and then environment works on them. I knew our son was basically liberal and our daughter basically moderately conservative when they were in elementary school.

In any case, THAT's why "millennials" have very different ideas of what a better world should be and a big reason why they're not rushing in large numbers to support Hillary.

Btw, consistently about 6 people vote for every 4 who do not. We've always thought more education caused people to vote in greater numbers. Yet these days, as more people are continuing education beyond high school, the rates of engagement are not increasing with them.

Studies are showing that it may not be education, per se, that causes greater engagement, but rather that the kind of people who vote have been more inclined to further their education..

But unlike the past when so many skills were learned on the job, these days many students are attending college to "learn a trade" as entree to the middle class, not to further their academic education. The general ed classes are more something they have to get behind them than pleasures that develop their interest in more and more learning. So, the overall "thirst for knowledge" among student bodies has dropped, and that also may be a significant contributor to the apathy being reported on campuses. More students are just the don't-vote kind.

That and two old people running, one a dysfunctional baboon and the other looking and sounding more like the grandmothers who told them they had to go to college and stay away from drugs than an exciting inspirational leader for the future. It takes ranging intelligence for the mind to move beyond adolescent groupthink.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
3. Now sit back and watch them pile onto you now.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:57 PM
Sep 2016

When you've been between the eyes with the hammer of reality, ones vision of the real world changes. It is a tough world and the sooner a person can learn to live in that world, the better off they will be. Johnson has exposed himself as a typical Libertarian - all about me and my happiness.

 

RonniePudding

(889 posts)
5. He's also revealed himself to be a stooge
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:59 PM
Sep 2016

Like literally 95 percent of the libertarians I've encountered.

 

Skoods

(341 posts)
4. Don't lump all of us in
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 01:58 PM
Sep 2016

This millenial has always loved Hillary and has voted for her 3 times already. Looking forward to a 4th

BlueMTexpat

(15,368 posts)
6. The ones who are voting for
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:00 PM
Sep 2016

Hillary are probably too busy working to elect her.

I don't judge ALL millennials by the few that the M$M tries to convince us will never vote for Hillary.

randr

(12,411 posts)
8. I certainly hope you are right
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:02 PM
Sep 2016

I have run into a few in my own neighborhood as well and they seem to spew a rabid ideology akin to the Trump fold.

BlueMTexpat

(15,368 posts)
13. Then whatever they say,
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:11 PM
Sep 2016

they were never true Bernie supporters. Bernie did not spew a "rabid ideology" akin to the Trump fold. They would never under any circumstances support Hillary.

Write them off!

malchickiwick

(1,474 posts)
9. My Three Millenial Kids Backed Bernie and Now Support Hillary 100%
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:02 PM
Sep 2016

...and one of them will be voting in a "battleground" -- Colorado.

DrDan

(20,411 posts)
15. I saw yesterday johnson had 24% support in Colorado
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:18 PM
Sep 2016

I can only think of pot legalization as to why he would have support at that level.

That is simply crazy considering all that is at stake in this election.

"biggest suckers" - spot on!!!!

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
16. My millennial daughter can't even talk about Trump.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:18 PM
Sep 2016

She will be voting Democrat, but she is tuned out on presidential politics.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
17. This Millenial doesnt appreciate
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:20 PM
Sep 2016

Being thrown in a basket and assumed to be a single issue (pot legalization) voter.

Why does everyone always stereotype? Especially about their needed allies?

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
31. Yeah, I saw that.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:02 PM
Sep 2016

It's not exactly a tactic to build support (OTOH, I am really sick of the "blame the boomers" meme - most of the policies that led to wealth inequality today were from Reagan, who was certainly not a boomer).

LisaM

(27,803 posts)
39. Yep.....
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:33 PM
Sep 2016

just went to a work thing that talked about discrimination in the workplace, and ageism is being cited more and more - it's the first time there have been four generations robustly represented in the workplace, so obviously adjustments are needed.

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
37. Lay down your torch.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:29 PM
Sep 2016

This kind of response disgusts me.

Why don't you click my name and see all my recs and posts hmm? Do a little background check to appease your need to categorize me?

I thought the loyalty pledges died with the primaries. Geez.

seaglass

(8,171 posts)
43. You seem to change your mind depending on your audience. So that is a yes, you're voting
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:49 PM
Sep 2016

for Hillary?

retrowire

(10,345 posts)
44. actually who I'm voting for depends on
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 08:05 PM
Sep 2016

Time and events that occur.

If you were paying attention to me as diligently as you claim, you would know that after the debate, I was more secured in my originally uneasy feeling about voting for her.

Do I owe you something?

 

BobbyDrake

(2,542 posts)
18. You know what? Screw Salon! There was no lie about HRC they wouldn't publish.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:21 PM
Sep 2016

They had a stable of 6-8 (white, male) authors at any given moment repeating the dishonesty about "super-predators" and calling her a "war hawk" and smearing her with innuendo about Wall Street. Now they're worried? Now they're concerned?

If Trump is the Frankenstein the GOP created, these Millennial trolls are the fringe left's legacy. And Salon volunteered as a willing mouthpiece for that.

Apparently the concept of sanity has a center-left bias this year.

The Polack MSgt

(13,188 posts)
25. Here effing here
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:18 PM
Sep 2016

9+ months of smears and false equivalence (no difference between HRC and the GOP!!!) and now they wonder why trump is not losing by a landslide?

Screw those guys

Turin_C3PO

(13,967 posts)
19. Yet they still
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:25 PM
Sep 2016

support Hillary more than any other generation. So I don't think it's the Millennials we need to worry about.

BadDog40

(273 posts)
21. I'm starting to wonder about the people of Nevada
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 02:59 PM
Sep 2016

Yesterday it comes out 30% of Hispanics in NV supports Trump and now this.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
24. So sad to see how people use age groups against age groups.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:12 PM
Sep 2016

The age group currently described as millennials aren't that much different from the same age group over the past couple of decades. There is nothing special about said age group outside of the fact they don't vote in numbers, are just forming their worldview, and are the easiest to move from corner to corner. That is not a negative comment on them. It is currently and historically accurate. Fact is a majority of those who do vote in said group will go for the Democrat.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
26. Need to get some famous millennials out there promoting Hillary's message.
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:22 PM
Sep 2016

Like Adele, Frank Ocean, Lena Dunham, etc.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
30. Trump is actually winning Baby Boomers
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 03:58 PM
Sep 2016

and you have the fucking audacity to blame the Millenials if Hillary loses? Fuck this shit.

Rocknrule

(5,697 posts)
32. In some ways, I think some of the Bernie holdouts/Stein supporters are worse than Trump voters
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:03 PM
Sep 2016

At least Trump voters, as dumb and misguided as they are, genuinely believe they're doing this country a service by electing the Cheeto. The BoB crowd knows how horrible and disastrous Trump would be for this country and still chooses to try and deliberately fuck us all by voting for Trump or protest voting for a third party, just to "send a message". They don't realize that not everyone is in the privileged position they are to ride out a Trump presidency, and that not everyone has mommy and daddy's basement to fall back on if Trump wins and SHTF.

LeftRant

(524 posts)
34. An old friend posted an image on FB that said HRC was a "war criminal." So tempted to ask why...
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:10 PM
Sep 2016

But I know it's a lost cause. He's not a millennial, he's late 40s/white/gay.

The other half of the image said something terrible about Trump. He previously said he's voting for Stein.

I don't want to vote shame people. We have the freedom to vote for who we want, and that's important to preserve, but I really don't understand how someone bothers going to the voting booth to throw the vote into a black hole. If I hated them both that much, I'd just stay home.

I want to ask him when was the last time we had a president that he did NOT think was a war criminal. They all use the military. I would guess he impugns her over a senate vote or something she did as SS. *sigh*

seaglass

(8,171 posts)
35. Both of my kids are Millenials and will be voting Hillary. They actually follow politics and
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:14 PM
Sep 2016

would not vote for a loser candidate. One smokes weed, the other doesn't. Shouldn't have an effect in MA anyways since we have recreational mj on the ballot this year.

Now my brother, who is 51, socially liberal, economically conservative and who normally votes R will be voting for Johnson. I'm pretty sure he doesn't smoke weed though. I am just thankful he is not voting Trump.

 

Joe941

(2,848 posts)
42. lol... you said it...
Fri Sep 30, 2016, 04:39 PM
Sep 2016

"With the stakes so high I thought..." The problem is the millennials are thinking about getting high.

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