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Related: About this forumTrump Supporters Busted By FBI For Plotting MASSIVE Terrorist Attack
By Stephen D Foster Jr on October 14, 2016 9:47 pm ·
The FBI thwarted an act of domestic terrorism on Friday when they arrested three white men for plotting to blow up an apartment complex in Kansas.
Curtis Allen, Gavin Wright, and Patrick Stein were all taken into custody after an investigation that took eight months busted the trio for planning a massive terrorist attack in Garden City.
Their target was an apartment complex and a mosque that serviced 120 Somali refugees.
According to KWCH, United States Attorney Tom Beall said the men stockpiled a large cache of firearms, and ammunition.
Beall said the men planned to park vehicles full of explosives at all four corners of the Garden City apartment complex. The men said they wanted to wake people up.
Beall said the men wrote a manifesto, which they wanted published after the bombing.
According to an affidavit, the were a part of a group called the Kansas Security Force and the Crusaders.
These are militia groups whose members support and espouse sovereign citizen, anti-government, anti-Muslim, and anti-immigrant extremist beliefs, read the affidavit.
The three men had planned to carry out the attack on November 9th, one day after Election Day.
And as it turns out, Curtis Allen is a supporter of Donald Trump and his Facebook page is full of anti-Muslim rhetoric.
I personally back Donald Trump, an unhinged Allen wrote in a post ranting about how Hillary Clinton is supposedly going to put Americans in FEMA camps and take all guns away.
http://addictinginfo.org/2016/10/14/breaking-trump-supporter-busted-by-fbi-for-plotting-massive-terrorist-attack/
GWC58
(2,678 posts)Asshole! As far as FEMA camps and taking all the guns away sounds like something I've heard before. That's right! Because I heard the same in 2008. President Obama only has about 100 days left, so I guess he needs to get started on those camps/guns thing.
These idiots will now be ruined for life for nothing. Trump and his family are laughing at morons like this who they have never given a crap about in their entire lives.
Bad Thoughts
(2,514 posts)now that he is a murderous criminal.
yuiyoshida
(41,764 posts)They lose their right to vote.
nikto
(3,284 posts)Basically, if convicted, that man has been turned into, by plight and fate,
a person-of-color.
Talk about irony.
Note:
My reaction has been influenced by this 1st-rate film, which I just saw a few days ago ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/10/06/ava-duvernays-netflix-film-13th-reveals-how-mass-incarceration-is-an-extension-of-slavery/
sarae
(3,284 posts)I'm sure this was happening right under their noses...should the government start interrogating all Republicans? Maybe place surveillance on all their churches?
IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)Don't you know what a terrorist looks like?
They are also keeping us safe from perverts peeping on teenage girls too.
Grins
(7,134 posts)Adam Lanza, Newtown, CT
John Patrick Bedell (Pentagon shooter)
Byron Williams, California shooter (caught before)
Brendan L. ORourke, Carlsbad, CA
Wade Michael Page, Milwaukee.
Thomas Caffall, Texas A&M shooter
Jerad and Amanda Miller, Las Vegas cop killers
Endicott McCray, Austin, Tx
Scott Roeder, Kansas
Robert Dear, Colorado
Paul Hill, Florida
So many more, but that's enough.
IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)a lot of stupid people think black or brown people are killing cops. It's like food stamps and obamacare and other such myths. They don't put much thought into it. Cops are more likely to be killed in secluded rural areas or while they are caught by surprise during lunch like when Jerad and Amanda Miller shot those 2 cops in Vegas.
White men killed more American police than any other group this year, but conservatives won't address the facts
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/king-cops-killed-white-men-conservatives-silent-article-1.2632965
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)IronLionZion
To be fair - Anders Breivik is "our" problem - and is currently in prison, and will more than possible stay there for the rest of his life, even if the maximum prison time in Norway is just 21 years - but he can be held under protective custody to a later date, as long as the community is in danger or he is a danger to himself.. And at look at it, it will be along time before Anders Breivik would not be a danger to himself or others...
Diclotican
IronLionZion
(45,261 posts)but the desire to kill lots of people is everyone's problem and a lot of mass shooting are done by Americans which inspires people to copy it.
I'm glad Breivik is in prison where he can think about what he did for 21 years. Timothy McVeigh only lasted 6 years in prison by comparison. He hated his life so much he literally begged for the death penalty.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)IronLionZion
The US is a lot more violent country than Norway, that is for sure - and somehow I doubt anything like the many mass shootings in the US would have been possible in Norway - one, because we are a little less violent - and also because we generally speaking have a whole different idea about gun laws.. Firearms is a privilege you earn the right to have, by strict guidelines, and laws, and also training, you need to be member of a gun club for at least 6 mounts - and to have a comprehensive understanding of firearms - and to pass a background check who takes more than 3 days to complete..
And then you need a specially purpose made cabinet to have your firearm in - and I suspect that a lot of different firearms that is to sale in the US, is not even legal to own in Norway..
Breivik is indeed in prison, and will be there for a long time - but I suspect he can be a difficult man to make understand what he have been doing.. For the last 5 years have he been a "difficult prisoner" as a superintend said it in one of our national newspapers a year ago.. But at least he will be kept where he is now - for the next 18 years - and then more than possible be arraigned in court to be kept in custody for 5 years, and then re arraigned in court for another 5 years, until such time he is not a danger to himself, or to anyone else... I suspect he is one of the very few in Norway, who will die in prison, or under control of the correctional system in one way or another
Diclotican
ck4829
(34,977 posts)nikto
(3,284 posts)That is like asking,
where are all the mosquitoes who drink milk-shakes instead of blood?
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,072 posts)...eom
DBoon
(22,288 posts)Must be because they all support terrori, right?
nikto
(3,284 posts)We'd better ask:
Are ALL Repugs terrorists?
IndianaDave
(611 posts)Your insight and ironic wit are great. I saw this last night, and decided to join Democratic Underground in part, precisely because of your post. Thanks for your incisive thinking.
sarae
(3,284 posts)I appreciate your kind words.
Welcome to DU! Hope you like it here.
IndianaDave
(611 posts)For your warm welcome.
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)NBachers
(17,007 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)It's actually happening.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)These people are insane. I just hope ATF and FBI stay on their game for the next year or so. Somalis huh? It figures. Now is the time for "decent" americans to step up, and defend innocent people against this terrorist threat created by the Republican Party. We'll see, won't we?
wordpix
(18,652 posts)who needed to be prosecuted? And then the R's shut that idea down completely.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)And here we are today, its a demonstrated fact.
bucolic_frolic
(42,678 posts)How does one determine people's inner motivations? Like a blood
test for infection? From a 5 minute doctor?
NoGoodNamesLeft
(2,056 posts)It sounds like they could have been planning this in case Trump loses...you know...his "NRA folks."
I hope that the FBI is watching these radical right wing conservative militia terrorist groups.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Glad our FBI is on top of these monsters!
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)for all the "others" in this country.
Maybe it would have distracted the public from Trumps massive concentration camp plans and the wall for awhile?
Who knows..
brush
(53,475 posts)These terrorists got busted but I hope the others of their ilk are being investigated closely,
These three thugs can't be the only ones out there plotting.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)But I'm starting to worry about the backlash(es) of his ardent idiot faithful after HRC wins. Dipshit's empowered them with untruths and suggestive "fixes" if he's trumped by the "rigged" system.
I don't want to have to buy my first gun, but it has crossed my mind of late.
brush
(53,475 posts)women come forward and how many lies he tells to cover up his misogynistic behavior.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)IndianaDave
(611 posts)I'm sorry to interrupt the discussion, but I keep seeing K&R on the site, and I have no idea what it means. Please tell me - Thanks, Dave
stopwastingmymoney
(2,028 posts)Welcome aboard
IndianaDave
(611 posts)I really appreciate your taking the time and making the effort to help the new guy. I thought the K might mean kick, because some people also use the kicking donkey emoji, but the R was a big puzzle. Thanks again for your help.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)BSdetect
(8,989 posts)Must be her fault or Obamas
drumph will lash out and never admit he caused this or contributed to the climate of hate.
Just amazing we know exactly what he will do.
Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)We must call on the whole community of Islamophobia to report suspicious behavior.
AwakeAtLast
(14,112 posts)sarae
(3,284 posts)ck4829
(34,977 posts)"Make America Grape Again."
vercetti2021
(10,150 posts)These three hate Muslims because they assume they are all terrorists when they don't realize that they're actually what they hate.
Also a reason I have a knife in my car since I got Hillary stickers all over the back of it. Taking no chances with these people. EVER.
dalton99
(781 posts)Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)Get it right!
rpannier
(24,304 posts)He's probably looking up a half-way decent public defender now
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Ford_Prefect
(7,828 posts)I hope they are looking harder and further into the Atl-Right for more of the same kinds of dangerous fools.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Safe as Milk
(51 posts)I don't know them. They don't know me. But I can tell you this: Crooked Hillary will go to any length to get elected. Maybe she set these men up to be arrested right before the election to make my fans look bad. The Clintons are running this entire election and I wouldn't be surprised if she or Bill Clinton had a hand in this.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)No, you don't say! Hey who could've seen this coming??
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)After election day we will see more of this and worse. Every day he is on tv at a rally not talking about the issues but just adding more hate on top of hate to his minions. He knows he will lose and he wants them fired up and angry. On every attack against civilians and even LEA's he will say they are patriots .
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Trump will not accept defeat. He will be screaming RIGGED! Election STOLEN!
I expect many lone nutcases to act out with deadly violence after Trump gets his ass beat by Hillary.
This is even more deadly, a terror group. How many more are out there making post election plans huh?
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)I just hope he ends up in the slammer for some years after he loses. God knows there's any NUMBER of things he could be prosecuted for!
EDIT TO ADD..... Wouldn't it be sweet, sweet justice if he ended up being prosecuted by the new attorney general??? WOW - I'd love to see that!
downeastdaniel
(497 posts)Thanks FBI, now look around for more of these who will blow up the very vulnerable...
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)paleotn
(17,781 posts)....isn't a bad idea. They are completely out of their minds and, by definition, a threat to society and themselves.
SunSeeker
(51,378 posts)Johnny2X2X
(18,745 posts)Unfortunately it's going to take another Tim McVeigh incident for the country to wake up to this threat.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Trump has not denounced this cause he loves this shit
ck4829
(34,977 posts)And they must continue to be opposed, it's just beginning really.
annabanana
(52,791 posts)against enemies, domestic.
lindysalsagal
(20,444 posts)He should be asked to take a stand for or against these morons, since they supported him.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Don't know if a tipster contacted the FBI. I suspect that Homeland Security has large computer resources that scans social media for creepy people/potential terrorists.
WatchWhatISay
(3,426 posts)Is it meant to be 9/11 in reverse??????
progressoid
(49,827 posts)Rocknrule
(5,697 posts)You do not own this country. You do not have a God-given mandate to rule this country. You do not have the right to take up arms and start killing people if you don't get your way. This is America, not Somalia or your God Emperor's favorite country, Mother Russia.
Hillary is going to be elected, and your little white power movement is going into the toilet of history where it belongs.
stopwastingmymoney
(2,028 posts)I especially like the toilet of history bit
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)IndianaDave
(611 posts)And it's regrettabe that I haven't seen it explored by the Mainstream Media. Although I have to admit that I haven't been looking too extensively. I did check Reuters, however, and it's missing. I really hope some news organizations pick this up and disseminate it. Our citizens need to see that domestic terrorism is -at least in this case - linked to Trump and his schoolyard tough guy incitement.
Boomerproud
(7,889 posts)Too hot for MSM to handle?
sellitman
(11,596 posts)That's the really sick reality we have to face.
They will be celebrated to many of his followers.
I feel as if I'm living in a alternate universe sometimes.