2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumMy husband was accosted and berated by a Trump supporter at a middle school football game.
"How can your wear that button with that shirt?"
My husband was wearing a Hillary button and an FDNY hoodie.
My husband explained to her that he is an FDNY World Trade Center survivor who Hillay worked hard to help. My husband has medical monitoring, low cost life-prolonging medication, and ongoing treatment at one of the best hospitals in NY due to Hillary's efforts to cover first responders who were not eligible for the programs already in place due to the unusual nature if their illnesses.
Her response? "You obviously did not see the Benghazi movie."
My husband laughed and said, "if you liked that movie, you really should watch 'Triumph of the Will'. It's right up your alley."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_of_the_Will
nolabear
(41,956 posts)Are they hearing something the rest of us don't hear? Something that drowns out all logical thought?
Fast Walker 52
(7,723 posts)fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)lastlib
(23,191 posts)aka right-wing radio, aka hate radio. To intelligent people, it's white noise, background static. To the less-intelligent, the right wingers, it's gospel music, reinforcing what they already "know"........
Motley13
(3,867 posts)Grins
(7,203 posts)I think I stole this from Charles Pierce:
" Republicans now have) a candidate whose entire appeal is assuring a substantial portion of the American electorate that the voices in their fillings are the smartest people in the room."
From birthers, to death panels, to Jade Helm, to Agenda 21, to Chem-trails, to sequestration, to dire prognostications of God's wrath for one damned thing or another, and to the always popular - BENGHAZI!!!! This is the Reich-wing's one true constant: an endless whiiiiiiiining indignation over imaginary slights. As someone else put it, "It is the Bitcoin of American Conservatism."
vlyons
(10,252 posts)They have chosen to nurture hatred in their minds. They don't know that hatred is a bad habit. They are not mindful that their thoughts and emotions have no independent, solid existence. Can't put thoughts and emotions on a scale and weigh them. They are unaware of how to control their minds. Unaware that they have the power and could think DIFFERENT thoughts. So they are stuck with being filled with negative emotions and blinded by hateful thoughts. They are not happy people. They cannot grasp reality.
JDC
(10,121 posts)insane people out there living among us all.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Are they talking about the Michael Bay one or some documentary?
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Even if they are based on actual events?
thucythucy
(8,043 posts)she had no idea what "Triumph of the Will" was about.
Zorro
(15,730 posts)and wants to see it now.
Music Man
(1,184 posts)Had his policy points down AND got in a sharp zinger.
I'm curious: Was the Trump supporter one of the middle schoolers?
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)when Hillary was making her first senate run in 2000. The UFA (FDNY union) pretty much always endorsed the Democratic candidate. For some reason, they didn't like Hillary and decided not to endorse anyone.
My husband fought hard for a Hillary endorsement, and when it was clear that it wasn't forthcoming, he said, "You guys don't like her just because you know she's smarter than you." Not a single delegate refuted his claim.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)❤️
madaboutharry
(40,199 posts)in the 1930's, would have been nazis. I really believe that
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Twitter is teeming with them - who claim their nazism with pride.
TexasTowelie
(112,061 posts)I live with one (my brother) and one of my sisters is scared that the Muslims are going to take over America. I'm at the point that I don't want to talk with either of them until after the election.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That must be very upsetting for you.
TexasTowelie
(112,061 posts)Unfortunately I'm dependent upon my brother so I have very little chance of getting away from him. He was stationed in West Germany in the Army when the Berlin Wall fell, then he was sent to fight in Iraq. He watches way too many shows about the Nazis and WWII and adds in InfoWars. Since I lived in Austin where Alex Jones tapes his InfoWars show I've known that Jones was a wacko nut job for years before he ever made it big on the national dialogue.
My sister is looking after my cat since my mental health issues manifested a couple years ago. Although I'm the one that certified with mental health problems it seems like I'm more balanced than those two siblings.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I am happy to say I have never actually met in person anyone who listens to Alex Jones and Infowars.
Sorry you have to deal with all of that.
madaboutharry
(40,199 posts)It is frightening.
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)and was dumbfounded at how the Nazis used its plurality and Goebbel's strategy to create legislative gridlock until Hitler was finally named chancellor.
ProudDMVer202301703
(4 posts)Reading Richard Evans Third Reich Trilogy now. Most of the first book takes place during the Weimar era but I would definitely like to read some more about it.
joshdawg
(2,647 posts)nowadays here in the U.S. Lots of food for thought.
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)Zynx
(21,328 posts)rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)baldguy
(36,649 posts)Blue Idaho
(5,044 posts)Well played sir, well played! It's a pity his wit was probably lost on that dozey so and so.
adigal
(7,581 posts)He got disabled and has great care, too. What did your husband do?
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)He also worked during the search and rescue, the search and recovery, and he voluntered for detail at the dump, sifting through debris looking for remains and mementos of those who died.
I hope your husband is OK.
adigal
(7,581 posts)And stood on that pile for a year.
He has some king issues but we moved way upstate ny and he's better up here.
Blessings.
lapucelle
(18,229 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)Sure, they also believe that Benghazi movie is true because its a documentary based on actual events. Everyone knows they can't put that stuff on the TV if it wasn't real... there are laws or something. Opinions are also accepted as real news. Political commentators are trusted unbiased journalists, at least the ones they watch on Faux news. Blog posters and forum rants say it exactly they way they would... if they only knew the right words to express themselves.
rusty quoin
(6,133 posts)kairos12
(12,849 posts)PoindexterOglethorpe
(25,839 posts)I'm frequently amazed at people who cannot distinguish between fact and fiction. So many people think the book/movie The DaVinci Code was straight history. Nope. Not in the least. And that's only the most obvious example.
Ilsa
(61,690 posts)Believe in facts, just what they "feel" in spite of facts, without a clue as to the manipulation of information. And they are too lazy to do the work in figuring it out.
volstork
(5,399 posts)what "Triumph of the Will" is...
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)More people saw "Nailin' Palin".
DemonGoddess
(4,640 posts)pansypoo53219
(20,966 posts)Ardoewaan
(144 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I think a great business opportunity would be opening up rehab treatment centers for these poor fools.
vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)They will pull it out of their asses whenever they have no argument.
Danmel
(4,911 posts)That is the perfect biting response that I always think of an hour later!!!
BSdetect
(8,998 posts)Facts are somehow repelled off their shield of hatred.
ThoughtCriminal
(14,047 posts)Back during the Bush years in response to a Iraq war supporter (remember those?) who said that to defeat terrorism we need "Unity and a will to win!"
I replied "Triumph or the Will" then, is there a book or movie? Went right over his head, but others got it.
treestar
(82,383 posts)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triumph_of_the_Will
That first sentence sounds just like the Repuke Party.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)ladym55
(2,577 posts)I'm always amazed at the level of dumb out there.
With all good wishes to your husband and to you ... and to adigal and her husband.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... are just too dirt stupid to realize that, by their words and actions, they defile every principle on which this country was founded.
SleeplessinSoCal
(9,107 posts)We need more people emulating him in order to de-brainwash our gullible deplorables.
wysi
(1,512 posts)W T F
(1,146 posts)The reason she isn't in jail, is because after being investigated by a republican house and a republican headed FBI numerous times, They couldn't get any evidence to indict her. But if you want to put your political opponents in jail, go move to North Korea, because that's the kind of government you want for America, and I'll be more than happy to buy you your plane ticket there.
Cakes488
(874 posts)it was just as Colin Powell said a stupid witch hunt