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According to ABC Poll, 68% believe Trump made unwanted advances, but only losing by 4% (Original Post) qdouble Oct 2016 OP
I think he's losing by more than 4 points, but yes, his fans don't care that he's a groper. nt SunSeeker Oct 2016 #1
Wonder how'd they feel if a family member had been sexually assaulted by drumpf ailsagirl Oct 2016 #18
They'd be pissed off if she didn't go along and get some swag out of the deal for them. bettyellen Oct 2016 #19
I was going to say... ailsagirl Oct 2016 #21
When Clinton said 50% of Trump's Charles Bukowski Oct 2016 #2
Poll is talking point poll, large Moe with Foggyhill Oct 2016 #3
Yeah, I believe he's really losing by more than 4%...the main thing is that drew my attention is qdouble Oct 2016 #4
Some other interesting tidbits: qdouble Oct 2016 #5
Sexual assault is evidently okay in thr trumpsters' alternatie realiaty Gothmog Oct 2016 #6
It's hard for me to believe that women still support him. Arkansas Granny Oct 2016 #7
Some of it is just political polarization in this country. qdouble Oct 2016 #8
I am I wrong in believing? AmericanMan1958 Oct 2016 #9
Well first of all, every poll has a margin of error, so polling averages are more meaningful qdouble Oct 2016 #10
Thank you for your reply AmericanMan1958 Oct 2016 #11
I'm also fearful of a small Hillary as well... qdouble Oct 2016 #13
I totally agree!! AmericanMan1958 Oct 2016 #16
What this poll and others show is that Doodley Oct 2016 #12
I think it means they will vote for anyone with R after their name BainsBane Oct 2016 #20
That is one interpretation. Here's another mythology Oct 2016 #14
48% of Repugs think BILL Clinton's harassment of women geek tragedy Oct 2016 #15
OR... We Are Giving To Much Credit To The GOP!! AmericanMan1958 Oct 2016 #17
Still don't believe misogyny is real? JCMach1 Oct 2016 #22

ailsagirl

(22,837 posts)
18. Wonder how'd they feel if a family member had been sexually assaulted by drumpf
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:38 PM
Oct 2016

Would they still not care?

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
19. They'd be pissed off if she didn't go along and get some swag out of the deal for them.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:40 PM
Oct 2016

Fucking pimps.

ailsagirl

(22,837 posts)
21. I was going to say...
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:50 PM
Oct 2016

if she did go along with it, they'd think that it was a cool thing, since drumpf is so cool-- a real status symbol

ARGH!!!

Foggyhill

(1,060 posts)
3. Poll is talking point poll, large Moe with
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 04:58 AM
Oct 2016

Skewed sample. The facts of this poll don't fully support this conclusion (4%)
Though it does support the fact
That most of GOP are really deplorable

qdouble

(891 posts)
4. Yeah, I believe he's really losing by more than 4%...the main thing is that drew my attention is
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 05:05 AM
Oct 2016

that many of his supporters believe he's an unrepentant pussy grabber, but will still vote for him.

qdouble

(891 posts)
5. Some other interesting tidbits:
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 05:16 AM
Oct 2016

55% Think Trump's treatment of women is a legitimate issue.
Only 30% Think Bill Clinton's treatment of women is a legitimate issue, 67% do not.

This basically means that only Clinton haters care about his attempts to smear Hillary by attacking Bill

Arkansas Granny

(31,483 posts)
7. It's hard for me to believe that women still support him.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 05:59 AM
Oct 2016

Even if the accusations are false (I think they are probably true), he made those disgusting statements and admits it. How any woman looks at a man like that and still sees him as a person fit to be President just astounds me.

qdouble

(891 posts)
8. Some of it is just political polarization in this country.
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 06:13 AM
Oct 2016

Like he said, he could shoot someone and not lose his core supporters.

AmericanMan1958

(518 posts)
9. I am I wrong in believing?
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 07:35 AM
Oct 2016

The 4% lead depends on the voter model used in determining the poll results.

Being that early voting has shown the possibility of a higher turn-out by Dems than first expected. Plus new polls show there is lower enthusiasm to vote on the Gop side than the Dems.

Shouldn't these factors change the model, thus the 4% lead is somewhat a depressed number, compared to reality?

Plus, the 4% is a National Average!

qdouble

(891 posts)
10. Well first of all, every poll has a margin of error, so polling averages are more meaningful
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 07:41 AM
Oct 2016

than individual polls. Beyond that, this poll was conducted on the 13th, only one day after the first victims came out.

AmericanMan1958

(518 posts)
11. Thank you for your reply
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:07 AM
Oct 2016

I know it is being report that the groping claims are having minimum effects. But, I have been part of the GOTV efforts here in Michigan and those I have been talking to are very sickened about it all.

I have been very active in the GOTV operation for the lats 5 election cycles, there is very little defense for Trump.

There is fear over the fall-out of Trump losing. My reply is always, the larger his defeat, the less the fall-out will be. We as American must send a message, with our vote, that Trump's word and his supporters actions are not acceptable. We must vote and send the message, "Enough is Enough!"

qdouble

(891 posts)
13. I'm also fearful of a small Hillary as well...
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:08 AM
Oct 2016

I don't thin that winning is enough. He needs to be annihilated, as his message is so poisonous to this country.

Doodley

(8,976 posts)
12. What this poll and others show is that
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:02 AM
Oct 2016

even though Trump is the most deplorable candidate in history, the Clinton side has failed to effectively deal with the Trump/Republican campaign to smear Clinton on the issue of trust.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
14. That is one interpretation. Here's another
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:10 AM
Oct 2016

People believe he has made unwanted passes/comments, but the bragging about groping wasn't true. In that scenario he may be a run of the mill sexual harasser which is bad, but a step down from committing sexual assault. Depending on where/how you heard about the tapes and one's preexisting stances on things like sexual harassment/assault, the sexual assault aspect may not be as clear in some people's mind as it should be.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
15. 48% of Repugs think BILL Clinton's harassment of women
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:11 AM
Oct 2016

is a legit issue but only 33% think Trump's are.

About 1/3 of Republicans have an actual sense of decency and logic. The other 2/3 are completely irredeemable.

AmericanMan1958

(518 posts)
17. OR... We Are Giving To Much Credit To The GOP!!
Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:16 AM
Oct 2016

They will support a Heaping pile of Crap, as long as it has a "R" next to it!!

And in this election, it seems they are doing just that!

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