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Sun Oct 16, 2016, 04:33 AM

According to ABC Poll, 68% believe Trump made unwanted advances, but only losing by 4%

http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/page/politics/washington-post-abc-news-national-poll-oct-10-13-2016/2102/ - page 24

So this basically means that many trump supporters believe that he's sexually assaulted women, but don't think it's a big deal.

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Reply According to ABC Poll, 68% believe Trump made unwanted advances, but only losing by 4% (Original post)
qdouble Oct 2016 OP
SunSeeker Oct 2016 #1
ailsagirl Oct 2016 #18
bettyellen Oct 2016 #19
ailsagirl Oct 2016 #21
Charles Bukowski Oct 2016 #2
Foggyhill Oct 2016 #3
qdouble Oct 2016 #4
qdouble Oct 2016 #5
Gothmog Oct 2016 #6
Arkansas Granny Oct 2016 #7
qdouble Oct 2016 #8
AmericanMan1958 Oct 2016 #9
qdouble Oct 2016 #10
AmericanMan1958 Oct 2016 #11
qdouble Oct 2016 #13
AmericanMan1958 Oct 2016 #16
Doodley Oct 2016 #12
BainsBane Oct 2016 #20
mythology Oct 2016 #14
geek tragedy Oct 2016 #15
AmericanMan1958 Oct 2016 #17
JCMach1 Oct 2016 #22

Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 04:37 AM

1. I think he's losing by more than 4 points, but yes, his fans don't care that he's a groper. nt

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #1)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:38 PM

18. Wonder how'd they feel if a family member had been sexually assaulted by drumpf

Would they still not care?

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Response to ailsagirl (Reply #18)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:40 PM

19. They'd be pissed off if she didn't go along and get some swag out of the deal for them.

 

Fucking pimps.

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Response to bettyellen (Reply #19)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:50 PM

21. I was going to say...

if she did go along with it, they'd think that it was a cool thing, since drumpf is so cool-- a real status symbol

ARGH!!!

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Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 04:40 AM

2. When Clinton said 50% of Trump's

 

supporters were deplorable, she was waaaaaaay lowballing it.

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Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 04:58 AM

3. Poll is talking point poll, large Moe with

Skewed sample. The facts of this poll don't fully support this conclusion (4%)
Though it does support the fact
That most of GOP are really deplorable

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Response to Foggyhill (Reply #3)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 05:05 AM

4. Yeah, I believe he's really losing by more than 4%...the main thing is that drew my attention is

that many of his supporters believe he's an unrepentant pussy grabber, but will still vote for him.

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Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 05:16 AM

5. Some other interesting tidbits:

55% Think Trump's treatment of women is a legitimate issue.
Only 30% Think Bill Clinton's treatment of women is a legitimate issue, 67% do not.

This basically means that only Clinton haters care about his attempts to smear Hillary by attacking Bill

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Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 05:49 AM

6. Sexual assault is evidently okay in thr trumpsters' alternatie realiaty

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Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 05:59 AM

7. It's hard for me to believe that women still support him.

Even if the accusations are false (I think they are probably true), he made those disgusting statements and admits it. How any woman looks at a man like that and still sees him as a person fit to be President just astounds me.

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Response to Arkansas Granny (Reply #7)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 06:13 AM

8. Some of it is just political polarization in this country.

Like he said, he could shoot someone and not lose his core supporters.

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Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 07:35 AM

9. I am I wrong in believing?

The 4% lead depends on the voter model used in determining the poll results.

Being that early voting has shown the possibility of a higher turn-out by Dems than first expected. Plus new polls show there is lower enthusiasm to vote on the Gop side than the Dems.

Shouldn't these factors change the model, thus the 4% lead is somewhat a depressed number, compared to reality?

Plus, the 4% is a National Average!

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Response to AmericanMan1958 (Reply #9)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 07:41 AM

10. Well first of all, every poll has a margin of error, so polling averages are more meaningful

than individual polls. Beyond that, this poll was conducted on the 13th, only one day after the first victims came out.

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Response to qdouble (Reply #10)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:07 AM

11. Thank you for your reply

I know it is being report that the groping claims are having minimum effects. But, I have been part of the GOTV efforts here in Michigan and those I have been talking to are very sickened about it all.

I have been very active in the GOTV operation for the lats 5 election cycles, there is very little defense for Trump.

There is fear over the fall-out of Trump losing. My reply is always, the larger his defeat, the less the fall-out will be. We as American must send a message, with our vote, that Trump's word and his supporters actions are not acceptable. We must vote and send the message, "Enough is Enough!"

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Response to AmericanMan1958 (Reply #11)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:08 AM

13. I'm also fearful of a small Hillary as well...

I don't thin that winning is enough. He needs to be annihilated, as his message is so poisonous to this country.

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Response to qdouble (Reply #13)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:12 AM

16. I totally agree!!

+1

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Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:02 AM

12. What this poll and others show is that

even though Trump is the most deplorable candidate in history, the Clinton side has failed to effectively deal with the Trump/Republican campaign to smear Clinton on the issue of trust.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #12)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 08:40 PM

20. I think it means they will vote for anyone with R after their name

even a sexual predator.

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Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:10 AM

14. That is one interpretation. Here's another

 

People believe he has made unwanted passes/comments, but the bragging about groping wasn't true. In that scenario he may be a run of the mill sexual harasser which is bad, but a step down from committing sexual assault. Depending on where/how you heard about the tapes and one's preexisting stances on things like sexual harassment/assault, the sexual assault aspect may not be as clear in some people's mind as it should be.

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Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:11 AM

15. 48% of Repugs think BILL Clinton's harassment of women

 

is a legit issue but only 33% think Trump's are.

About 1/3 of Republicans have an actual sense of decency and logic. The other 2/3 are completely irredeemable.

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Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:16 AM

17. OR... We Are Giving To Much Credit To The GOP!!

They will support a Heaping pile of Crap, as long as it has a "R" next to it!!

And in this election, it seems they are doing just that!

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Response to qdouble (Original post)

Sun Oct 16, 2016, 09:16 PM

22. Still don't believe misogyny is real?

Anyone? Anyone?

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