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Algernon Moncrieff

(5,790 posts)
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:52 AM Oct 2016

Kos: Trump is hoping red shirts intimidate voters in minority communities

Trump hopes that his red shirts will keep numbers down in districts where minorities turn out for Democrats. However, if that doesn’t work, plan B is already clear.

“Should Hillary get ‘elected’ she is immediately delegitimized,” said California RNC Committeeman Shawn Steel in an email. “The 1% of Wall Street Bankers, Clinton Machine and [mainstream media] including your employer, Politico, is part of a massive Left Wing Conspiracy to rig this election.”


If Trump’s goon squads can scare enough voters away from the polls, it’s all good. If not, then Hillary is “delegitimized” because everything was rigged.

It’s a can’t-lose plan. Except for all the losing.


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Kos: Trump is hoping red shirts intimidate voters in minority communities (Original Post) Algernon Moncrieff Oct 2016 OP
People should just say, "Hi, Santa," as they go in to vote. MineralMan Oct 2016 #1
"Santa Claus has a red suit, he's a communist. mysuzuki2 Oct 2016 #15
What a weak ******* candidate he's shown us to be.. he'd Cha Oct 2016 #2
I don't think Trump JustAnotherGen Oct 2016 #3
And Texas is out. Folks will not even put up with that. elehhhhna Oct 2016 #4
Apparently none of them watched Star Trek mythology Oct 2016 #5
hahahahhaha Star Trek has too much thoughtful dialogue for the likes of them. Cakes488 Oct 2016 #6
GMTA GreenPartyVoter Oct 2016 #12
I'm gonna wear a blue shirt workinclasszero Oct 2016 #7
Gotta wear the blue cap too. Coyotl Oct 2016 #8
LOL workinclasszero Oct 2016 #10
This is an old-school dirty trick. wildeyed Oct 2016 #9
Designed to also make the lines longer by slowing the whole process down. Coyotl Oct 2016 #11
Yes. wildeyed Oct 2016 #13
NO really people, can anyone imagine tRump supporters in South Side Chi town or North Philly or uponit7771 Oct 2016 #14
OH hell no...these "red shirts" will not dare step in the hood...they are going to go vote....take Cakes488 Oct 2016 #17
Yeap, they'd vote in their upper middle class suburban area (tRumps demo) then get in uponit7771 Oct 2016 #18
Red shirts?! Stellar Oct 2016 #16
they did get killed first in the original Star Trek irisblue Oct 2016 #19
Well...Mussonlini had black shirts. Hitler had brown shirts. Wounded Bear Oct 2016 #21
There'll be people with BLUE shirts outside the polls as well...I'll be one of them brooklynite Oct 2016 #20
Red is good GulfCoast66 Oct 2016 #22
Red is the new brown. eShirl Oct 2016 #23
voters are more informed than one might think DeminPennswoods Oct 2016 #24

mysuzuki2

(3,521 posts)
15. "Santa Claus has a red suit, he's a communist.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 06:50 PM
Oct 2016

He has long hair and a beard, must be a pacifist. And what's in that pipe he's smoking? ..."

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
3. I don't think Trump
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 11:57 AM
Oct 2016

Can get them into those districts.

I'm trying to imagine and knuckle dragging swine from central nj even THINKING about driving into Newark or Camden. or Elizabeth . . .

They not only 'hate' black and hispanic people - they FEAR us. Nope - not gonna do it. And if they bring guns they are gonna wind up dead.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
4. And Texas is out. Folks will not even put up with that.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:04 PM
Oct 2016

They tried in my precinct in 07. Sheriff and voters were up in their shit big-time.

 

Cakes488

(874 posts)
6. hahahahhaha Star Trek has too much thoughtful dialogue for the likes of them.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 12:39 PM
Oct 2016

Plus the deplorables would just want to kill all life forms they encounter so no they don't mix with the Trek mindset at all.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
9. This is an old-school dirty trick.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 01:14 PM
Oct 2016

GOP has done this for years. Liberal groups in my state seem to be ready. They have been aggressively recruiting and training their own poll watchers since before the primary. Red shirts are one problem, but easy enough to identify. A bigger problem is poll workers intentionally or unintentionally disenfranchising legit voters. That can go under the radar if you don't have enough boots on the ground at the actual precincts.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
11. Designed to also make the lines longer by slowing the whole process down.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 01:21 PM
Oct 2016

Not just deter people from showing up, but also make the ones who do need to return to work simply turn away when these see the wait time.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
13. Yes.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 04:37 PM
Oct 2016

In my state they did away with straight ticket voting for that exact reason. It takes longer to fill out a ballot so lines are longer and a percentage of people will leave without voting.

The voter ID law was overturned by the courts. That obviously was designed to disenfranchise black voters, but it also took FOREVER to do the verification process (we did have it for the primary), so the secondary purpose was to gum up the works and cause long lines and confusion on election day.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
14. NO really people, can anyone imagine tRump supporters in South Side Chi town or North Philly or
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 05:59 PM
Oct 2016

... South Side KC intimidating anyone?

Really

 

Cakes488

(874 posts)
17. OH hell no...these "red shirts" will not dare step in the hood...they are going to go vote....take
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 07:14 PM
Oct 2016

a look around and leave...and they will chalk that up to poll monitoring.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
18. Yeap, they'd vote in their upper middle class suburban area (tRumps demo) then get in
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 07:18 PM
Oct 2016

... their nearly new cars and go to 95th st .... look around... and not stop... no... roll through every red light they see on the way home.

irisblue

(32,967 posts)
19. they did get killed first in the original Star Trek
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 07:43 PM
Oct 2016

but otherwise a mystery to me.
Red for Republican maybe?

Wounded Bear

(58,645 posts)
21. Well...Mussonlini had black shirts. Hitler had brown shirts.
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 08:25 PM
Oct 2016

I guess all the good macho colors were already taken.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
22. Red is good
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 08:28 PM
Oct 2016

It hides blood which will be needed if they try to prevent Americans from voting.

I have not physically attacked anyone in over 30 years. But if someone tried to physically stop me from voting I am afraid my anger would get the best of me.

And there is no history of voter suppression in my white family. I can only imagine the rage that could engender in a person of color. But again, I have no real knowledge of that.

DeminPennswoods

(15,278 posts)
24. voters are more informed than one might think
Wed Oct 19, 2016, 08:55 PM
Oct 2016

I was a judge of elections in Philadelphia when the city transitioned from the old mechanical level voting machines to new automated machines. The city put out all kinds of info about the new machines and even had machines stationed in libraries and other locations so voters could get acquainted with using them. The first election with the new machines happened to be the mayoral primary, so all the election board members were trained and ready to do some OJT with voters. I didn't think many Philadelphians would pay much attention to the outreach. Boy was I wrong. When voters came in, we offered to show them how the new machines worked, but nearly every voter told us they'd read the material or tried out the machines and knew what they were doing. It was extremely impressive. Voters really did pay attention! And the biggest problem? Just walking out of the booth through the curtain because they were so used to pulling the vote lever and having the curtain automatically open.

I think in Texas or wherever, voters will know before they even get to the poll what they need to do to vote.

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